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Oh god all those random Giant Chaos Spawn stats .

Also... its seems all the Daemons lack the Daemon Faction.
:/

I have these books on order, but I must say this makes me feel MUCH better about putting my money on the table. These rules look consistent with the core Indexes and nothing shouts as being busted or too complex for its own good on a first read. An impressive effort from FW and their testers on this!

Edit: Ok I take some of that back. I just saw the uhh... special... rules for Giant Chaos Spawn.

Xiphon is in there but still waiting on the Thunderhawk Gunship (significant points decrease!) and the Fire Raptor.

The Relic Deredeo looks pretty incredible with autocannons and missiles.

Am I blind or do those chaos leaks have everything except the points costs for the daemon lords and daemon units?

What the absolute feth is with hellforged deredeo weapons?

Am I just not seeing the fire raptor rules anywhere?

Debilitate wrote:
Am I just not seeing the fire raptor rules anywhere?

Fire Raptor has not been scanned yet but you can piece together the points cost with certainty except for the missiles. My guess at gear has it coming in at over 400 points...

I see the points now. Looks to be around 320ish points with two sets of twins heavy bolters? That's not too bad. Hoping we get a pile of dakka for that many points!!

 SonicPara wrote:

Debilitate wrote:
Am I just not seeing the fire raptor rules anywhere?

Fire Raptor has not been scanned yet but you can piece together the points cost with certainty except for the missiles. My guess at gear has it coming in at over 400 points...

My epub readers do odd things to the formatting.
Fire Raptor is armed with 2 quad heavy bolters, 2 twin hellstrike missiles, and twin avenger bolt cannon. Can swap hellstrikes for twin lascannons. No option for twin autocannons in place of the quad bolters :(

So the Poryphyrions rules have been spoiled but how many points is it? Havent seen an image yet of that.

Bought the SM epub, fire raptor is.. expensive. But powerful with PoTMS and the amount of dakka it has.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 SonicPara wrote:

Debilitate wrote:
Am I just not seeing the fire raptor rules anywhere?

Fire Raptor has not been scanned yet but you can piece together the points cost with certainty except for the missiles. My guess at gear has it coming in at over 400 points...

My epub readers do odd things to the formatting.
Fire Raptor is armed with 2 quad heavy bolters, 2 twin hellstrike missiles, and twin avenger bolt cannon. Can swap hellstrikes for twin lascannons. No option for twin autocannons in place of the quad bolters :(

Any chance you could post the Fire Raptor and Thunderhawk Gunship?

No leak for the deathstorm pod or alpha legion character (Arkos the faithless ) ?

I'm still not seeing anything for the greater blight drone. Did I just miss it?

krazynadechukr wrote:

mortar_crew wrote:

gungo wrote:

mortar_crew wrote:

stormboy wrote:
I can't find an entry for the Ork Mega-Dread.

I could run it as a Meka-Dread with 2 rippa klaws but that entry (shown on Community a while ago) didn't have options for the kannon.

Weird. Maybe I am missing it somewhere.

Unfortunately you are not.

We ork players lost a trukkload of models with this update.

The Mega-Dread is one of them.

Shame.

The model is still sold as well as the killkannon arm. I'm fairly certain it will have rules but likely in the same page as the meka dread varient. I don't know why it wasn't in the index but that is the way the new dataslates are done with each varient having its own dataslate. it is the same way for the killblasta/killbursta tanks all on one page but different dataslates.

Well, and orks still miss the following entries:

-Battlefortress

-GunWagon

-Figtha

-Figtha bomba

-bomba

-Grot-launcha battery

-Looted wagon

-Junka

and... Mega-dread.

isn't this it?

It is not.

Mega-dread and Meka-dread are two different ork dread-types,
which both have models in the FW range,
and actually quite different rules from the dread-mob list (IA 8).

The first (the MEGA-dread) is actually missing,
which is especially odd since it is the most common of the two.
Can be fitted with up to two rippa klaw(s) or kill kanon(s) and are used
as the ultimate shock troop in the warband: orks just WANT to pilot them in combat!
(but from now on, are pissed!)

The second (MEKA-dread) is a rarer version since each mek produce it
with various a kustom jobs and more exotic weapons (such as the shunta)
as a display of their skill.

What the people at FW were thinking when they axed so much ork entries is beyond me...

Thanks for the upload.

I noticed something interesting with Asterion Moloc. Chapter Masters in TDA have 7 wounds base, which I would assume is 6 + 1 due to Terminator Armour (as TDA seems to increase wound count by 1, see e.g. Captain vs Captain in Terminator Armour, Marneus Calgar with and without). However, Moloc only has 6. Same goes for Tyberos

Still think he'll beat most characters due to extra attacks and D3, but interesting nonetheless. Wonder if it's an intended or just a mistake.

I have already started building a Minotaurs army for 8th, so getting to see his rules is great. Very happy I ordered him even before seeing this

Thanks a lot for the rules!!!!!


How many points are the great daemons?

The giant chaos spawn is the most ridiculous unit in the game

 Gordon Shumway wrote:
The giant chaos spawn is the most ridiculous unit in the game

If not this, at least the dankest meme.

...plague toads can fly ?

Loving these.
Chaos fire raptor please


So no daemon knight rules? Really odd as it has a new model.

 Gordon Shumway wrote:
The giant chaos spawn is the most ridiculous unit in the game

you are pretty much forced to focus fire it down. It needs a limit on how many times it regenerates a phase. Especially at its cost.
Good thing rapier quad lascannons will take huge chunks out of it for 100 pts each.

Some of the melee weapon name for vehicles in those datasheets are kinda funny just because you don't expect them to be named that. "Eternal Hunger" for the Hellforged Fellblade had me legit in stitches.

The Lias Issodon image is unreadable:-(

That Giant Chaos Spawns costs 5 PL... how many points it cost?

Is anyone gonna use it? not because it could be OP, but because how hard to keep track of everything

had to delete several posts.

The odd leak/image is fair enough folks, but please show sense and discretion when posting.

I've emailed FW directly regarding the Mega Dred profile,and they are waiting for details back from the development team regarding if it has been combined with the Meka Dred, despite me telling them it was missing most of its weapon options. Altogether a disappointing response, but all we have for now.

FW related news :

Mr Hewitt has/is about to leave GW -- amicably and on good terms one hastens to add -- and will be going freelance.

https://twitter.com/lagoon83

warl0rdb0b wrote:
I've emailed FW directly regarding the Mega Dred profile,and they are waiting for details back from the development team regarding if it has been combined with the Meka Dred, despite me telling them it was missing most of its weapon options. Altogether a disappointing response, but all we have for now.

I got the same kind of answer when I asked them about the ork losses as a whole a few days ago.
They passed the request to the developpement team but emphasize that there will not be probably
an update anytime soon.

Pretty disappointed also.

Has anyone seen the 8e rules for the Legion Sicaran Battle Tank? 70+ pages is a lot to scroll through.

mortar_crew wrote:

warl0rdb0b wrote:
I've emailed FW directly regarding the Mega Dred profile,and they are waiting for details back from the development team regarding if it has been combined with the Meka Dred, despite me telling them it was missing most of its weapon options. Altogether a disappointing response, but all we have for now.

I got the same kind of answer when I asked them about the ork losses as a whole a few days ago.
They passed the request to the developpement team but emphasize that there will not be probably
an update anytime soon.

Pretty disappointed also.

anything without a model is gone. It likely never sold well enough.
The mega dread i will put money doe. It still is in the book. As a model exists.
The actual preview stated orks have 19 dataslates and the index only listed 14.
The killlbursta and killblasta adds 1, the mega dread adds another, I have no clue what the other 3 dataslates are.
There is a model for a trukk w enclosed cab but it doesn't need rules, models for a halftrakk which could have rules but would be pretty blah if they followed the trakk vs buggy guideline of 2 less movement for 1 more wound.
But no models means no rules unless they plan to redo the mould.

Wait where the hell did you guys get the new Space Marine leaks? A Google search gave me nothing.