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 unmercifulconker wrote:
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"Remember, don't put that on the internet!"

Duncan: "What's the internet?"

Nice! That group is funny and look like they really enjoy their work.


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 Red Corsair wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
Could be that DORN is the Primarch that turns Traitor!

I could be wrong but I think your misremembering the rumor. It said a lyalist primarch would return and a traitor would turn loyal. Pretty sure Cypher is the traitor "turning sides" (he never had a clear side to readers) and Guilliman is it.

You could be right there!

Maybe?

But as you noted, not sure that many thought Cypher was a 'traitor' other than the Dark Angels, of course!

But how much fun is that if we can't wind Kronk up about Dorn turning Traitor?!?

Hahaha, silly me, I am the one misremembering... of course now I remember... Isn't Dorn supposed to turn bad and replace Abadon since he is the the grandfather of crusading and won't be outdone by Abadon?

Also, Grrrr...

I'll have to light another candle tonight to my missing primarch...model. Stupid forge world!

"Two happy little thin coats."

Oh dear, its all a bit Hollywood for my liking, really not my cup of tea, the fluff has taken a nosedive and the new avenging son looks terrible.



I am betting that the Lion turns to chaos now !

Seems like GW might be onto a a winner though, most people seem well up for this !

 pretre wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
Could be that DORN is the Primarch that turns Traitor!

I could be wrong but I think your misremembering the rumor. It said a lyalist primarch would return and a traitor would turn loyal. Pretty sure Cypher is the traitor "turning sides" (he never had a clear side to readers) and Guilliman is it.

"Additional: I have heard loose rumours that 'a loyalist Primarch will turn, and a Chaos Primarch will turn Loyalist.' I have heard nothing more in this regard....but please be Alpha Legion....please be Alpha Legion. (EDIT: I have heard nothing solid on this! It seems to be intertronz conjecture)"

It's from a bad monger, as well.

Interesting thanks Pretre, apparently a bogus rumor monger, but if it were true imagine if RG turns traitor. Remember you don't have to join Chaos to betray the imperium and the high lords after all. He could be sick with the current state of affairs and fracture the smurfs off, while a traitor like lorgar could sneak his way onto the golden throne in a twisted irony, becoming the worshiped god. Nahhhh thats silly

HiveFleetLemanDrop wrote:
Noticed that this basically confirms Cypher was carrying around the Emperor's sword.

The text on the page also confirms Cypher is still not a "good guy".

Guilleman has the Emperor's sword. Cypher, or more properly the Lord Cypher, is still carrying The Lion Sword, which Guilleman broke over his knee during the 2nd Imperium time.

I think this would be clearer if people would say "the flaming sword" or "Cypher's sword" instead of "the sword" as we have a bunch of swords being swordy with extra swordbits from other books infiltrating our swordthoughts and confuzzling swordthings.

-John

 unmercifulconker wrote:
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"Remember, don't put that on the internet!"

Duncan: "What's the internet?"

Oh Duncan

YouTube for those who can't access Facebook.

Well played, GW.

 Rayvon wrote:
Oh dear, its all a bit Hollywood for my liking, really not my cup of tea, the fluff has taken a nosedive and the new avenging son looks terrible.



I am betting that the Lion turns to chaos now !

Seems like GW might be onto a a winner though, most people seem well up for this !

What are the odds Cypher turns out to be Lion El'Johnson? Supposedly, Primarchs could control their size.

No Cypher is not Johnson. Johnson is asleep in the rock getting soothing music and massages from the watchers in the dark.

The Cypher model makes this a must buy for me and the GK/inquisitor looks good too.

Did our spiritual liege make a Bob Ross joke?

NivlacSupreme wrote:
Did our spiritual liege make a Bob Ross joke?

Yes, yes he did.

Primarch could change their size ? Is this really canon ?

It would make a few things more believable at least, as I have a hard time imagining for exemple Lion El'Jonhnow integrating with the local population if he had been a giant as big as the new Roboute model for exemple.

Also when you look at the lion sword in the old picture at http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Lion_Sword , you see that the sword was has big as he is tall, meaning that it would be silly to think that Cypher sword could have been it unless of course the primarch could indeed change size.

 TheDraconicLord wrote:

 unmercifulconker wrote:
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"Remember, don't put that on the internet!"

Duncan: "What's the internet?"

Oh Duncan

Whoever would have thought GW winning the interwebz

jtrowell wrote:
Primarch could change their size ? Is this really canon ?

It would make a few things more believable at least, as I have a hard time imagining for exemple Lion El'Jonhnow integrating with the local population if he had been a giant as big as the new Roboute model for exemple.

Also when you look at the lion sword in the old picture at http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Lion_Sword , you see that the sword was has big as he is tall, meaning that it would be silly to think that Cypher sword could have been it unless of course the primarch could indeed change size.

Couple of things,

first you don't know how big the Lion is from that garbage pic,

second look at the new cypher and you will see a MASSIVE sword hilt at his back

third, if it broken then it ain't that big anymore is it?

Alarmism they said. Baseless complaining they said. Jumping to conclusions they said.

I went looking for a smugface gif to put here, but I couldn't find one that displayed sufficient levels of told-ya-so.

I'm glad some people are excited by Rowboat's return, but bringing back loyalist primarchs isn't something I can get behind, because it's a clear signal that either GW don't care about their own fluff any more or that the whole "it won't be 40K End Times, honest" line is nonsense, because up until recently all of the various primarch-coming-back fluff myths were pretty unequivocal - they only show up again for the end, the finale, the last great final conclusion of humanity's battle against Chaos.

So either GW renege on that and it turns out actually they can pop back round for a cuppa any time they like, or they go through with it and actually play out the final battle and we get Age of the Emperor, or they stop just short of going through with it and leave the clock at one second to midnight. In the first case, you rob their return of any genuine meaning and mystery plus GW would be clearly signalling that no retcon is too big. In the second, while I doubt they'd go as far as Age of Sigmar in terms of reworking the actual factions, the story would be completely different tonally and thematically; 40K is apocalyptic, if you avert the apocalypse and launch Great Crusade 2 - Primarch Boogaloo it's not 40K any more, there would be too much hope and optimism. In the third case, all they'll have done is written themselves into an even tighter corner than they were already in, and forced the rest of us into it with them since "how the end plays out and who wins" was supposed to be our playground, our space to tell our stories in, and they'll have mapped out 90+% of that.



As for the models - the GK looks like a GK, which I suppose is nice if you collect GKs and want a GK character? Seems a bit pedestrian compared to the other Triumvirates, but there's nothing wrong with him. Cypher actually looks pretty great, the cloak in particular looks like it flows really really well, hopefully he'll pop up at a reasonable price on ebay. I'll withold full judgement on Rowboat until we get better pics and the 360 image, but at first glance his anatomy looks a bit off, and the pose looks a bit forced - the FW Rowboat is amazing, good enough I bought him and have a modest UM Legion force planned despite not previously being their biggest fan, this one doesn't stand up too well by comparison. Or at least, that's how it seems based on the initial pic there, we'll wait & see if better pics make him look better.

 EnTyme wrote:

You know, maybe with this release we'll finally get the official word on how to pronounce Roboute Guilliman. I can't even spell it, let alone say it.

There's a reason people jokingly call him Rowboat Girlyman

So Yvraine the Emissary of Ynnead is attempting to find all 5 swords of Mor-Heg (or whatever her name was) in order to fully wake Ynnead early
She has already found 3. Anyone want to theorize that Gilliam's sword is another?
Or do we know the origin of the Emperor's sword already?

If this concludes the gathering storm trilogy. Then who or what is the storm?

I think the model is okay. The FW face looks better, but the snobby pose kills it for me. Also looks like the emps sword. Which is cool. Cypher and the grey knight definitely look like good models. Overall I like this triumvirate better than Aeldari one but not as moch as the IoM one.

 Gamgee wrote:
If this concludes the gathering storm trilogy. Then who or what is the storm?

Chaos spilling forth from the Eye. What else could it be?

I don't want to sound stupid, but rather than having that Grey Knight guy, I think it would have been awesome to have Nathanial Garro in the set to kick ass against Chaos and his former Primarch!
I admit I haven't read all his H.H books, so please tell me if he's dead. I really don't mind if he is, but it would be cool if he was still kicking around to defend Terra.

Primarchs turning bad, other Primarchs staying good,

Honestly until Ferrus Manus' disembodied head gets thrown into the body of a gigantic dreadnought ala Krang from TMNT, I won't be moved.

HERE WE GO!!

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/02/03/gathering-storm-iii-rise-of-the-primarch-first-look/

 angelofvengeance wrote:
YouTube for those who can't access Facebook.

Well played, GW.

This was pure genius - I actually laughed out loud.

Daaaamn son, Cypher's sword is huge, does not look like it's supposed to be held by a normal marine.....

Ok yeah, really liking Blue Man with the 360 spin.

I take back any negatives I had on Guilliman's face. With the helmet option he looks amazing. Im glad they included it.

The detail on the flaming sword is fantastic.

Helmed Guilliman all the way.

He looks much better in that shot. FW still has the better face at least. I like the helmet one better than any of them It gives him this master chief mysteriousness.

I want that Cypher. I want that Cypher so damn BADLY! He's even better than I thought!

But Celestine, what the heck happened to my Celestine?! Guilliman has her Halo

 TheDraconicLord wrote:
I want that Cypher. I want that Cypher so damn BADLY! He's even better than I thought!

But Celestine, what the heck happened to my Celestine?! Guilliman has her Halo

Sacrificed herself so the Avenging Son could live? Gave it to him as a gift because she has a crush on the MacDaddy?

I think we can assume -- given it'a size -- that Cypher is indeed carrying the Lions' Sword -- presumably the one Guilliman snapped.