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2017/03/03 17:06:29
Subject: Re:The Gathering Storm Part III: Rise of the Primarch -- twitch broadcast 3.3.17
If you’re heading to AdeptiCon* this March, you’d be madder than an Ork Mek to miss our Studio Preview events on Wednesday night.
Now, we’ll grant you, ‘Studio Preview’ doesn’t give much away, and we can’t tell you too much here either (lest we ruin the surprise) but we can tell you it’s not just a bunch of pictures on a powerpoint slide. Because, sure, anything we show you will end up on the internet, and even right here on the Warhammer Community site, quicker than a Speed Freek can rev his engine (it’s unofficial Ork day here in the office).
If you go to the preview event, you’ll not only get to handle a host of new miniatures, (some of which won’t be out for almost a year) you’ll get to play some games with them. And not just any game, a brand new game. On top of that, we’ve even commissioned some special dice for attendees to keep as a momento. And, that’s not even all. You’ll also get to see some new game mechanics we’ve got in mind for existing games and give us your thoughts.
Now, obviously, there will also be a powerpoint presentation (and maybe a video or two) with loads of cool unreleased miniatures and great new art, but that’s just window dressing.
Azreal13 wrote: For some people, the fact that they've done it is already sufficient to call it a flop.
I'd count myself in the deeply sceptical but still open minded camp, but it's difficult to see a route forward that's not going to look like a Saturday morning cartoon.
Azrael, gotta ask you a question. Do you play 40k currently? If not, when did you quit? Seems kinda pointless to bemoan a game you aren't playing
Into 7th, I still have two armies with a third (more 30K orientated but with an eye towards using it in 40K also) WIP.
I have stopped playing, because I find the game deeply unsatisfying to play as it stands, but I'd say I'm lapsed rather than quit.
Equally, I'm not bemoaning the game (in this context,) I'm not even specifically criticising the details of the changes (although god knows I have my reservations) I'm questioning the wisdom of taking any setting and moving the timeline forward, because this in and of itself presents creative challenges for maintaining the longevity of the game's fiction.
That's a fair response. However, I take the opposite view. I think moving the timeline forward helps the longevity of the game's fiction. You can only continue to write so much in the same "event". I mean, yeah we haven't covered everything in the Horus Heresy, but it's pretty fairly detailed. If they don't move forward, I'd say in another 10 years they'd be out of ideas for 30k/40k lore.
If you’re heading to AdeptiCon* this March, you’d be madder than an Ork Mek to miss our Studio Preview events on Wednesday night.
Now, we’ll grant you, ‘Studio Preview’ doesn’t give much away, and we can’t tell you too much here either (lest we ruin the surprise) but we can tell you it’s not just a bunch of pictures on a powerpoint slide. Because, sure, anything we show you will end up on the internet, and even right here on the Warhammer Community site, quicker than a Speed Freek can rev his engine (it’s unofficial Ork day here in the office).
If you go to the preview event, you’ll not only get to handle a host of new miniatures, (some of which won’t be out for almost a year) you’ll get to play some games with them. And not just any game, a brand new game. On top of that, we’ve even commissioned some special dice for attendees to keep as a momento. And, that’s not even all. You’ll also get to see some new game mechanics we’ve got in mind for existing games and give us your thoughts.
Now, obviously, there will also be a powerpoint presentation (and maybe a video or two) with loads of cool unreleased miniatures and great new art, but that’s just window dressing.
Good point. But I'm fine with that, just a bit surprised they are going to show new releases (miniatures and a brand new game) at an event. Looking forward to it.
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2017/03/03 17:13:27
Subject: The Gathering Storm Part III: Rise of the Primarch -- twitch broadcast 3.3.17
Casey's Law wrote: Many fans are heavily invested in old 40k and every year they see Games Workshop move a little further from what they love. No wonder people are worried that a big new event in the lore might be a destructive force for the universe they love.
Personally, I don't mind a little change here and there but I'm also in the worried camp. I want GW to move back in the direction that appeals to me obviously and this could be a decisive move in the opposite, 'Saturday morning cartoon' and toy robot action figure direction.
jreilly89 wrote: I hope they blow it up, AoS style. 30 years of "2 minutes to midnight" grows stale. At least there's things finally at stake now.
Casey's Law wrote: It's cool if you like what happening but loads of people don't, we don't have to fight about it.
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Warhams-77 wrote: Good point. But I'm fine with that, just a bit surprised they are going to show new releases (miniatures and a brand new game) at an event. Looking forward to it.
Agreed. GW has been much more open with teasers lately, and I think it definitely helps build up hype. Look at what they did with Magnus/Cadia/etc. The one thing I hope they do away with is limited edition minis. Having collector's edition books is fine, but limited edition figures always bugged me.
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Azreal13 wrote: For some people, the fact that they've done it is already sufficient to call it a flop.
I'd count myself in the deeply sceptical but still open minded camp, but it's difficult to see a route forward that's not going to look like a Saturday morning cartoon.
Azrael, gotta ask you a question. Do you play 40k currently? If not, when did you quit? Seems kinda pointless to bemoan a game you aren't playing
Into 7th, I still have two armies with a third (more 30K orientated but with an eye towards using it in 40K also) WIP.
I have stopped playing, because I find the game deeply unsatisfying to play as it stands, but I'd say I'm lapsed rather than quit.
Equally, I'm not bemoaning the game (in this context,) I'm not even specifically criticising the details of the changes (although god knows I have my reservations) I'm questioning the wisdom of taking any setting and moving the timeline forward, because this in and of itself presents creative challenges for maintaining the longevity of the game's fiction.
That's a fair response. However, I take the opposite view. I think moving the timeline forward helps the longevity of the game's fiction. You can only continue to write so much in the same "event". I mean, yeah we haven't covered everything in the Horus Heresy, but it's pretty fairly detailed. If they don't move forward, I'd say in another 10 years they'd be out of ideas for 30k/40k lore.
What about all the races, Craftworlds, Guard Regiments, Chapters, sub Factions, battles, campaigns and characters that have only ever had a passing reference in lore?
What about the Ghoul (Ghost?) Stars?
What about the 10 000 years since the Heresy?
There's a huge amount of space left to explore, this isn't some creative decision to move things forward because they've run out of design space, they've moved things forward because it's easy and they know it will allow them to produce stuff that sells by the bucket.
That's not necessarily a criticism of GW as a company, while one could argue they have a certain artistic responsibility to maintain the integrity of something they're custodians of, the reality is they exist to sell product, but it is something I think should give the fans pause before they throw a party.
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We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
And not just any game, a brand new game... ... And, that’s not even all. You’ll also get to see some new game mechanics we’ve got in mind for existing games and give us your thoughts.
3 ways to play? Wasn't that brought up by Mr Roundtree last year? So maybe it will be 8th edition but then the "new game mechanics we've got in mind for existing games" will be for people who want to continue playing 40K in third edition style like 3.5 edition or like a modified 7th edition? The new game could be an AoS type game for 40K. So now you have 3 ways to play. Regular 40K as now but modified, 30K and maybe an AoS type 40K game. Just a guess not saying this is the way it will be.
Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.
Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?
Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong".
2017/03/03 17:22:04
Subject: Re:The Gathering Storm Part III: Rise of the Primarch -- twitch broadcast 3.3.17
I'm sold with the "If you go to the preview event, you’ll not only get to handle a host of new miniatures, (some of which won’t be out for almost a year) ". This excites me far too much
"Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth! These are the truths of this world! Surrender to these truths, you pigs in human clothing!" - Satsuki Kiryuin, Kill la Kill
2017/03/03 17:23:09
Subject: Re:The Gathering Storm Part III: Rise of the Primarch -- twitch broadcast 3.3.17
I hope there is more to RG's rules than that.
So far they feel completely uninspiring and there is the classic space marine problem of "the beatstick that can not move more than 6 inches per turn"
2017/03/03 17:23:13
Subject: The Gathering Storm Part III: Rise of the Primarch -- twitch broadcast 3.3.17
Azreal13 wrote: For some people, the fact that they've done it is already sufficient to call it a flop.
I'd count myself in the deeply sceptical but still open minded camp, but it's difficult to see a route forward that's not going to look like a Saturday morning cartoon.
Azrael, gotta ask you a question. Do you play 40k currently? If not, when did you quit? Seems kinda pointless to bemoan a game you aren't playing
Into 7th, I still have two armies with a third (more 30K orientated but with an eye towards using it in 40K also) WIP.
I have stopped playing, because I find the game deeply unsatisfying to play as it stands, but I'd say I'm lapsed rather than quit.
Equally, I'm not bemoaning the game (in this context,) I'm not even specifically criticising the details of the changes (although god knows I have my reservations) I'm questioning the wisdom of taking any setting and moving the timeline forward, because this in and of itself presents creative challenges for maintaining the longevity of the game's fiction.
That's a fair response. However, I take the opposite view. I think moving the timeline forward helps the longevity of the game's fiction. You can only continue to write so much in the same "event". I mean, yeah we haven't covered everything in the Horus Heresy, but it's pretty fairly detailed. If they don't move forward, I'd say in another 10 years they'd be out of ideas for 30k/40k lore.
What about all the races, Craftworlds, Guard Regiments, Chapters, sub Factions, battles, campaigns and characters that have only ever had a passing reference in lore?
What about the Ghoul (Ghost?) Stars?
What about the 10 000 years since the Heresy?
There's a huge amount of space left to explore, this isn't some creative decision to move things forward because they've run out of design space, they've moved things forward because it's easy and they know it will allow them to produce stuff that sells by the bucket.
That's not necessarily a criticism of GW as a company, while one could argue they have a certain artistic responsibility to maintain the integrity of something they're custodians of, the reality is they exist to sell product, but it is something I think should give the fans pause before they throw a party.
It's not like the Gathering Storm is going to stop any 30k production, I'm pretty sure FW will still be taking care of that. I think it's just that their focus (rightly so) is continuing the 40k line.
Also, I don't think there's that much to explore. Does every craftworld, guard regiment, etc. deserve a full explanation? I think it's more interesting that they aren't fully explored, as it leaves some more player choice in there.
Lady Atia shouldn't tease this much. This is just mean.
Spoiler:
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"Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth! These are the truths of this world! Surrender to these truths, you pigs in human clothing!" - Satsuki Kiryuin, Kill la Kill
2017/03/03 18:12:54
Subject: The Gathering Storm Part III: Rise of the Primarch -- twitch broadcast 3.3.17
Azreal13 wrote: For some people, the fact that they've done it is already sufficient to call it a flop.
I'd count myself in the deeply sceptical but still open minded camp, but it's difficult to see a route forward that's not going to look like a Saturday morning cartoon.
Azrael, gotta ask you a question. Do you play 40k currently? If not, when did you quit? Seems kinda pointless to bemoan a game you aren't playing
Into 7th, I still have two armies with a third (more 30K orientated but with an eye towards using it in 40K also) WIP.
I have stopped playing, because I find the game deeply unsatisfying to play as it stands, but I'd say I'm lapsed rather than quit.
Equally, I'm not bemoaning the game (in this context,) I'm not even specifically criticising the details of the changes (although god knows I have my reservations) I'm questioning the wisdom of taking any setting and moving the timeline forward, because this in and of itself presents creative challenges for maintaining the longevity of the game's fiction.
That's a fair response. However, I take the opposite view. I think moving the timeline forward helps the longevity of the game's fiction. You can only continue to write so much in the same "event". I mean, yeah we haven't covered everything in the Horus Heresy, but it's pretty fairly detailed. If they don't move forward, I'd say in another 10 years they'd be out of ideas for 30k/40k lore.
What about all the races, Craftworlds, Guard Regiments, Chapters, sub Factions, battles, campaigns and characters that have only ever had a passing reference in lore?
What about the Ghoul (Ghost?) Stars?
What about the 10 000 years since the Heresy?
There's a huge amount of space left to explore, this isn't some creative decision to move things forward because they've run out of design space, they've moved things forward because it's easy and they know it will allow them to produce stuff that sells by the bucket.
That's not necessarily a criticism of GW as a company, while one could argue they have a certain artistic responsibility to maintain the integrity of something they're custodians of, the reality is they exist to sell product, but it is something I think should give the fans pause before they throw a party.
It's not like the Gathering Storm is going to stop any 30k production, I'm pretty sure FW will still be taking care of that. I think it's just that their focus (rightly so) is continuing the 40k line.
Also, I don't think there's that much to explore. Does every craftworld, guard regiment, etc. deserve a full explanation? I think it's more interesting that they aren't fully explored, as it leaves some more player choice in there.
That's a little contrary - "I think it's more interesting that stuff is left unexplained, but I'm keen to see all this stuff that was previously unexplained dragged front and centre into the spotlight in the name of moving things forward."
Ultimately, whether a Craftworld or whatever deserves a full exploration is determined by the quality of that exploration. Is it interestingly different enough from what has gone before?
It's moot though, GW have gone for the low hanging fruit, while leaving huge parts of the map unexplored.
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We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
Azreal13 wrote: For some people, the fact that they've done it is already sufficient to call it a flop.
I'd count myself in the deeply sceptical but still open minded camp, but it's difficult to see a route forward that's not going to look like a Saturday morning cartoon.
Azrael, gotta ask you a question. Do you play 40k currently? If not, when did you quit? Seems kinda pointless to bemoan a game you aren't playing
Into 7th, I still have two armies with a third (more 30K orientated but with an eye towards using it in 40K also) WIP.
I have stopped playing, because I find the game deeply unsatisfying to play as it stands, but I'd say I'm lapsed rather than quit.
Equally, I'm not bemoaning the game (in this context,) I'm not even specifically criticising the details of the changes (although god knows I have my reservations) I'm questioning the wisdom of taking any setting and moving the timeline forward, because this in and of itself presents creative challenges for maintaining the longevity of the game's fiction.
That's a fair response. However, I take the opposite view. I think moving the timeline forward helps the longevity of the game's fiction. You can only continue to write so much in the same "event". I mean, yeah we haven't covered everything in the Horus Heresy, but it's pretty fairly detailed. If they don't move forward, I'd say in another 10 years they'd be out of ideas for 30k/40k lore.
What about all the races, Craftworlds, Guard Regiments, Chapters, sub Factions, battles, campaigns and characters that have only ever had a passing reference in lore?
What about the Ghoul (Ghost?) Stars?
What about the 10 000 years since the Heresy?
There's a huge amount of space left to explore, this isn't some creative decision to move things forward because they've run out of design space, they've moved things forward because it's easy and they know it will allow them to produce stuff that sells by the bucket.
That's not necessarily a criticism of GW as a company, while one could argue they have a certain artistic responsibility to maintain the integrity of something they're custodians of, the reality is they exist to sell product, but it is something I think should give the fans pause before they throw a party.
It's not like the Gathering Storm is going to stop any 30k production, I'm pretty sure FW will still be taking care of that. I think it's just that their focus (rightly so) is continuing the 40k line.
Also, I don't think there's that much to explore. Does every craftworld, guard regiment, etc. deserve a full explanation? I think it's more interesting that they aren't fully explored, as it leaves some more player choice in there.
That's a little contrary - "I think it's more interesting that stuff is left unexplained, but I'm keen to see all this stuff that was previously unexplained dragged front and centre into the spotlight in the name of moving things forward."
Should have been more specific. I mean I appreciate them leaving the unknown two legions and other chapters unexplained because it allows for people to make their own legions and fluff. AFAIK, Gathering Storm isn't touching the two unnamed legions, correct?
Ultimately, whether a Craftworld or whatever deserves a full exploration is determined by the quality of that exploration. Is it interestingly different enough from what has gone before?
Doubtful. At least, no more interesting that all the FW Chapters that are out there.
It's moot though, GW have gone for the low hanging fruit, while leaving huge parts of the map unexplored.
That's kind of a loaded statement. Is it really low hanging fruit if it's still good and interesting?
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It's moot though, GW have gone for the low hanging fruit, while leaving huge parts of the map unexplored.
This is totally how I see it, if I am honest, I am all for adding to the fluff, even advancing it, but this story line reads as though it required no thought or any half decent input at all.
2017/03/03 18:21:37
Subject: Re:The Gathering Storm Part III: Rise of the Primarch -- twitch broadcast 3.3.17
Arrrrrrrrrgh dat Atia teeeeaaaaaase. The second what?! THE SECOND WHAT?!
You really think someone would do that? Just go and start another Heresy?
Oh boy the possibility of a second Heresy and a loyalist turning traitor, I can defo see RG not turning to chaos but waging war upon the current Imperium to forcibly turn it to the direction that the Emperor once intended.
Please be awesome please be awesome....
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Fury from faith
Faith in fury
Numquam solus ambulabis
2017/03/03 18:29:50
Subject: The Gathering Storm Part III: Rise of the Primarch -- twitch broadcast 3.3.17
If you’re heading to AdeptiCon* this March, you’d be madder than an Ork Mek to miss our Studio Preview events on Wednesday night.
Now, we’ll grant you, ‘Studio Preview’ doesn’t give much away, and we can’t tell you too much here either (lest we ruin the surprise) but we can tell you it’s not just a bunch of pictures on a powerpoint slide. Because, sure, anything we show you will end up on the internet, and even right here on the Warhammer Community site, quicker than a Speed Freek can rev his engine (it’s unofficial Ork day here in the office).
If you go to the preview event, you’ll not only get to handle a host of new miniatures, (some of which won’t be out for almost a year) you’ll get to play some games with them. And not just any game, a brand new game. On top of that, we’ve even commissioned some special dice for attendees to keep as a momento. And, that’s not even all. You’ll also get to see some new game mechanics we’ve got in mind for existing games and give us your thoughts.
Now, obviously, there will also be a powerpoint presentation (and maybe a video or two) with loads of cool unreleased miniatures and great new art, but that’s just window dressing.
Also, I don't think there's that much to explore. Does every craftworld, guard regiment, etc. deserve a full explanation? I think it's more interesting that they aren't fully explored, as it leaves some more player choice in there.
That's a little contrary - "I think it's more interesting that stuff is left unexplained, but I'm keen to see all this stuff that was previously unexplained dragged front and centre into the spotlight in the name of moving things forward."
Should have been more specific. I mean I appreciate them leaving the unknown two legions and other chapters unexplained because it allows for people to make their own legions and fluff. AFAIK, Gathering Storm isn't touching the two unnamed legions, correct?
No. But then, it is bringing Primarchs back from the dead and, by the sounds of it, taking a character whose whole schtick was his mysterious motives and ambiguous allegiances in Cypher and explaining it all, so who knows where the line is for the future?
Ultimately, whether a Craftworld or whatever deserves a full exploration is determined by the quality of that exploration. Is it interestingly different enough from what has gone before?
Doubtful. At least, no more interesting that all the FW Chapters that are out there.
I'm not sure you're responding to what I've written here? What's doubtful about something old being explored being interesting if it is done in an interesting way?
It's moot though, GW have gone for the low hanging fruit, while leaving huge parts of the map unexplored.
That's kind of a loaded statement. Is it really low hanging fruit if it's still good and interesting?
Yes. If, given the success of 30K, and the apparent success of the 30K boxed games as a result, the first thought anyone had in the "how shall we move the story forward" meeting wasn't "well, we could do something with the Primarchs coming back" I'll eat someone else's hat. It may ultimately be well executed, but it is also the most smack me in the balls with a soggy newspaper and call me Wanda obvious thing they could have done.
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We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
SeanDrake wrote: if that don't foreshadow a new powergrab I will be very surprised. The Enlightened empire home to free humanity, aeldari, custodes and Space Marines that don't need flea collars.
Anyone who at this stage does not think this is the 40k End Times fluffwise is in denial.
Yeah, this.
I'd love to be wrong, but the signs are not good.
From reading this thread that Egyptian river is getting mighty full...
2017/03/03 19:19:42
Subject: Re:The Gathering Storm Part III: Rise of the Primarch -- twitch broadcast 3.3.17
No. But then, it is bringing Primarchs back from the dead and, by the sounds of it, taking a character whose whole schtick was his mysterious motives and ambiguous allegiances in Cypher and explaining it all, so who knows where the line is for the future?
Or maybe Cypher's whole motives are all a lie? Idk, I have good faith they'll do Cypher right. Especially after using the Changeling to trick the DA into bombing Fenris, that was pretty cool.
I'm not sure you're responding to what I've written here? What's doubtful about something old being explored being interesting if it is done in an interesting way?
That I don't see it much more interesting than them exploring a FW Chapter. It's essentially just an offshoot of Eldar. I'm with you, I'd rather see them releasing new races/fleshing them out, like the Jokaero.
Yes. If, given the success of 30K, and the apparent success of the 30K boxed games as a result, the first thought anyone had in the "how shall we move the story forward" meeting wasn't "well, we could do something with the Primarchs coming back" I'll eat someone else's hat. It may ultimately be well executed, but it is also the most smack me in the balls with a soggy newspaper and call me Wanda obvious thing they could have done.
Come on, man. With Abaddon threatening Terra for 13 Crusades, the whole story was set up for an eventual Primarchs return. Hell, that's why Dorn is "dead", Khan is lost in the Warp, the Lion is asleep, etc. Calling it "low hanging fruit" just because it's obvious isn't really fair. You're mad they're finally making good on something they've been foreshadowing since Rogue Trader days?
SeanDrake wrote: if that don't foreshadow a new powergrab I will be very surprised. The Enlightened empire home to free humanity, aeldari, custodes and Space Marines that don't need flea collars.
Anyone who at this stage does not think this is the 40k End Times fluffwise is in denial.
Yeah, this.
I'd love to be wrong, but the signs are not good.
From reading this thread that Egyptian river is getting mighty full...
GW: "We are NOT going to do an End Times like we did with WFHB." Dakkadakka: "THE END TIMES ARE COMING!! THEY'RE GOING TO BLOW UP 40K!"
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SeanDrake wrote: if that don't foreshadow a new powergrab I will be very surprised. The Enlightened empire home to free humanity, aeldari, custodes and Space Marines that don't need flea collars.
Anyone who at this stage does not think this is the 40k End Times fluffwise is in denial.
Yeah, this.
I'd love to be wrong, but the signs are not good.
From reading this thread that Egyptian river is getting mighty full...
GW: "We are NOT going to do an End Times like we did with WFHB." Dakkadakka: "THE END TIMES ARE COMING!! THEY'RE GOING TO BLOW UP 40K!"
Two words- Space. Hulk.
2017/03/03 19:26:51
Subject: Re:The Gathering Storm Part III: Rise of the Primarch -- twitch broadcast 3.3.17
~1.5k
4500 
I can't wait to see how GS3 ends as well.
