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I'm hoping that they are hiding a weapon option or two for the warbringer carapace.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
I'm hoping that they are hiding a weapon option or two for the warbringer carapace.

Hope so but I doubt it. What you reckon the other weapons could be? Giant support missile? Colossal plasma mortar? Sonic disruptor?

I'm sure they could expand upon the concept; don't forget whilst the fullsized one only has one main weapon; part of that is going to be the greater cost and reduced sales rate. It might be they've got 3D files ready to go with other weapon designs and just haven't sold enough to justify such investment at this stage. However it sounds like its initial release will be with a single artillery weapon. It might be worth magnetizing it in case they do come up with another idea.

Of course lets not forget it might not be artillery that they come up with; its design and increased upper body size to cope with a bigger weapon could be used to house other types of weapon. It could even be used to transport support, a huge mobile area shield for example or shield projector etc.

Yeah logistical support Warbringer might be nice. Large radar / comms array, landing pads etc. Wouldn't make too much sense in a game with half a dozen engines per side though.

If they have space left on the sprue, If they reuse the Reaver weapon sprue for the arm weapon, then it might be possible.

There might even be some space left for a Sniper or techpriest.

JWBS wrote:
Yeah logistical support Warbringer might be nice. Large radar / comms array, landing pads etc. Wouldn't make too much sense in a game with half a dozen engines per side though.

*sees new AT Warbringer*

*reads JWBS' post*

*looks at new AI models*


Welp, yep, that's happening! Now to convert some Warbringer-sized landing pads!

The Warbringer carapace is a huge piece of real estate.

I'd be surprised if there were only one weapon for it - might not see the alternate weapon in model form till the end of the year though...

Isn’t a Nemesis a variant of any Titan that mounts a weapon from a higher class? So the Warbringer Nemesis mounts a Warlord weapon. So other Warmord weapons could be mounted there.

Also, what’s a normal Warbringer? Does it have two Reaver class weapons on the carapace?

There’s plenty to expand upon with the Warbringer chassis.

I don't know why, but I'd gotten the impression that the Warbringer is a dedicated Nemesis chassis, as it were.

I'm really interested to see what the modern take on the Ordo Sinister psi-titans looks like. The original kit is one of the rarest Epic models they ever made, only being available at Mail Order as a metal conversion kit to the original plastic Warlord (and looking not very good).

Anyone got an idea of how many points the Warbringer is going to be. I'm thinking between 370pts - 420pts

I wonder how much is the new starter set. If it’s around 60-70 pounds or less (yeah, yeah, dream in I know), I might finally start some AT and maybe we’ll have some movement in the local community. So far there is probably a dozen people in Moscow, who play AT.

SnotlingPimpWagon wrote:
I wonder how much is the new starter set. If it’s around 60-70 pounds or less (yeah, yeah, dream in I know), I might finally start some AT and maybe we’ll have some movement in the local community. So far there is probably a dozen people in Moscow, who play AT.

It's got about 140£ or so worth of stuff so 100-110£

If the set was £100 I would definitely get it, but I'm thinking £120 at least.

In case anyone missed it, the end of the video says the starter set goes up for preorder on Feb 8th, so we should know the price this Monday. I'm curious how much of the other new stuff will come out at the same time, or if we'll need to wait.


Rules £35
Reaver £35
Reaver £35
Warhounds £40
Cerastus knights £20
= £165 retail

I think £110 - £120 is probably realistic, so £88-£96 from most 3rd party retailers.

Mr.Giggles wrote:
Anyone got an idea of how many points the Warbringer is going to be. I'm thinking between 370pts - 420pts

Not a clue.

But, given the debacle over the Knight Porphyrion, I’m hoping they’ve thought the rules through a bit more. Because at the moment, each of the three Titan classes occupy very specific slots, and fulfil different tactical roles.

With new stuff being added, the risk to the game is that one Class is made largely obsolete by another once other niches are explored.

So, if the Nemesis Warbringer proves just as shooty as a Reaver, and not much less nimble, whilst carrying a bigger, Warlord class gun? The Reaver could look obsolete.

Part of this issue is something like the Nemesis is clearly not built to be anti-titan. It's more got the appearance of something built to work with a support army against another army. Thus having a long ranged artillery cannon and close up anti air guns. It's clearly more designed to go after armies not other titans even if it has a couple of titan weapons to give it some fight back.

Looks like it will have handy role. Knights hiding out of LOS behind building? Lob some quake cannon shots from warbringer!

So long as it's not quite that easy

And I mean that sincerely. Proper use of Knights and knowing how to properly scuttle them up the board, hugging terrain takes practice.

But if a Warbringer can just 'nope' them regardless? I'd say that makes it too powerful.

Guess it really depends on the rules for the Quake Cannon. It needn't be the same as the Warlord one, as we already have different patterns and sizes of Volcano Cannon. That means it could serve more as a disruptive weapon than an outright killy one.

Slowing down those sneaky Knights? OK cool, that gives me something to react to. Simply deleting Knights? Too much of a trump card for my blood.

According to Lexicanum the Warbringer is a Titan Hunter.

But if you ask me, its equiped to make everyone's life a misery!

It’s great we’ve a new Titanicus and weapons, but no mention of the Weapon cards or the control panel if it’s different to a standard Reaver?

One assumes those are a given though.

I'm wondering if the terminal will have a fixed carapace weapon and use the Reaver cards for the arms, or if it'll have it's own card deck.

I suspect it might have it's own card deck, if only to limit what arm weapons it might have (such as, for arguments sake, no CCW)

Fixed weapon or not, they still use card, and flip it over when the weapon is damaged. So might as well leave it blank.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Guess it really depends on the rules for the Quake Cannon. It needn't be the same as the Warlord one, as we already have different patterns and sizes of Volcano Cannon. That means it could serve more as a disruptive weapon than an outright killy one.

Looking at the 40k rules, the Nemesis quake cannon has a longer range than the Mori quake cannon (480" v. 360") but is weaker (S16 v. S20).

Interesting that the titanicus scale Warbringer looks a lot prettier than the full scale one.

I hope we get a few cosmetic pieces to vary up the warhounds soon, we’re kinda done with the imperial Titan range for now beyond that and the they-seem-weirdly-reticent-But-it’s-inevitable-eventually imperator.

You reckon it's definitely inevitable? Disclaimer, I don't play this game, but surely any game that includes an Imperator is going to be vastly different to anything played right now? (Like, it alone will account for as many models as the whole opposing army, plus the interactions might be weird, seeing as half of the weapons on the other army probably can't hurt it?). Having said that, they did have them in the old games so I could be totally wrong about all of that.

The Imperator is a waste of time and resource at the expense of many other smaller, useful kit that people would actually play.

I knew people want an Imperator as a paperweight on their desk, but there are also people who'd prefer a more practical and affordable unit to play the game.

We're much more like to see the other new titan classes (scale 5 & 7) and chaos variants before an Imperator. FW staff have even said that they think a single unit that big will warp the game and generally be unfun to play against.

Chopstick wrote:
The Imperator is a waste of time and resource at the expense of many other smaller, useful kit that people would actually play.

I knew people want an Imperator as a paperweight on their desk, but there are also people who'd prefer a more practical and affordable unit to play the game.

Imperators were part of the Epic game and Titan Legions years ago - so they are hardly paperweights.