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That Psi Titan is lovely - need one

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CorwinB wrote:
Strange that the upcoming decals are not for the Iron Crusade Legios (Praesagius, Suturvora, Audax...).

Anyone knows if it's possible to field Psi-Titans for the renegade side, or are they exclusive to Loyalists ? I don't want to order two on Friday and later discover in the book that it's only possible to field a single one...


Having not seen the book, presumably loyalist only. There’s only 25 Warlords of Ordo Sinister, and they’re basically the Emperors own Titan Legion. (Iirc, been a while since I read Inferno).

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Regarding the decals, I'm guessing that they're the two loyalist legions on Ulixis that the preview mentions.

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 Overread wrote:
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Gods that gun almost looks like its off an eldar titan - Psy titan for the win!


Might be able to do a decent conversion with Dark Eldar bits


Well its a LOT of Dark Eldar bits if you want a titan since its only the gun arm.

That said I'm sure we'll see Xenos appear at some stage. We just have to wait out the Imperialist propaganda first


The arm and faceplate remind me a lot of the Talos. Sort of like a soul siphon. I really like how it blends the Imperial styling with a form follows function of a psy weapon. Already have a name planned for it.
   
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As noted earlier, definite Eldar vibe from the Psi Cannon thing.

And I really, really like that design cue. Makes sense, after all. Looking forward to the rules.

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I love the blank face of the Sinister, it's a nicely non-Imperial design touch that gives the whole thing a distinctly alien and unique vibe.

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 ImAGeek wrote:
CorwinB wrote:
Strange that the upcoming decals are not for the Iron Crusade Legios (Praesagius, Suturvora, Audax...).

Anyone knows if it's possible to field Psi-Titans for the renegade side, or are they exclusive to Loyalists ? I don't want to order two on Friday and later discover in the book that it's only possible to field a single one...


Having not seen the book, presumably loyalist only. There’s only 25 Warlords of Ordo Sinister, and they’re basically the Emperors own Titan Legion. (Iirc, been a while since I read Inferno).


Think that broadly matches their Heresy volume?

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
 ImAGeek wrote:
CorwinB wrote:
Strange that the upcoming decals are not for the Iron Crusade Legios (Praesagius, Suturvora, Audax...).

Anyone knows if it's possible to field Psi-Titans for the renegade side, or are they exclusive to Loyalists ? I don't want to order two on Friday and later discover in the book that it's only possible to field a single one...


Having not seen the book, presumably loyalist only. There’s only 25 Warlords of Ordo Sinister, and they’re basically the Emperors own Titan Legion. (Iirc, been a while since I read Inferno).


Think that broadly matches their Heresy volume?


That’s where I’m getting the info from yeah. I haven’t seen the new book, to clarify. Just from what I’m remembering of their lore from Inferno, I’d be very surprised if they weren’t loyalist only.
   
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 ImAGeek wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
 ImAGeek wrote:
CorwinB wrote:
Strange that the upcoming decals are not for the Iron Crusade Legios (Praesagius, Suturvora, Audax...).

Anyone knows if it's possible to field Psi-Titans for the renegade side, or are they exclusive to Loyalists ? I don't want to order two on Friday and later discover in the book that it's only possible to field a single one...


Having not seen the book, presumably loyalist only. There’s only 25 Warlords of Ordo Sinister, and they’re basically the Emperors own Titan Legion. (Iirc, been a while since I read Inferno).


Think that broadly matches their Heresy volume?


That’s where I’m getting the info from yeah. I haven’t seen the new book, to clarify. Just from what I’m remembering of their lore from Inferno, I’d be very surprised if they weren’t loyalist only.


You're remembering largely correctly, 20 not 25, (5 in each of the 4 crypt-fortresses) but otherwise yea they are the emperors own.

What is interesting is they are not actually [a] Titan Legio, but an Ordo with Titans. So I wonder how they will fit in the game? will you only be able to take one as a support titan or will it just say "treat them as a legio"

*edit: fixing grammar.

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frankr wrote:
 ImAGeek wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
 ImAGeek wrote:
CorwinB wrote:
Strange that the upcoming decals are not for the Iron Crusade Legios (Praesagius, Suturvora, Audax...).

Anyone knows if it's possible to field Psi-Titans for the renegade side, or are they exclusive to Loyalists ? I don't want to order two on Friday and later discover in the book that it's only possible to field a single one...


Having not seen the book, presumably loyalist only. There’s only 25 Warlords of Ordo Sinister, and they’re basically the Emperors own Titan Legion. (Iirc, been a while since I read Inferno).


Think that broadly matches their Heresy volume?


That’s where I’m getting the info from yeah. I haven’t seen the new book, to clarify. Just from what I’m remembering of their lore from Inferno, I’d be very surprised if they weren’t loyalist only.


You're remembering largely correctly, 20 not 25, (5 in each of the 4 crypt-fortresses) but otherwise yea they are the emperors own.

What is interesting is they are not actually [a] Titan Legio, but an Ordo with Titans. So I wonder how they will fit in the game? will you only be able to take one as a support titan or will it just say "treat them as a legio"

*edit: fixing grammar.


Where the confusion seems to be is the big E ordered 25 titans, yet we know of only 4 crypt-fortresses, so either 5 are in reserve, or used for a different project entirely.

One was destroyed whilst fighting the eldar though, where there any losses on Prospero?

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 Alpharius wrote:
Or the Ram...or the Wrecker!

Those were a hoot too...


Unfortunately that is about all they were. They were such unreliable gimmicks (and often with cripplingly short effective range) that I never saw them fielded. It was far better to use that weapons hardpoint for a more conventional gun.
   
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frankr wrote:
 ImAGeek wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
 ImAGeek wrote:
CorwinB wrote:
Strange that the upcoming decals are not for the Iron Crusade Legios (Praesagius, Suturvora, Audax...).

Anyone knows if it's possible to field Psi-Titans for the renegade side, or are they exclusive to Loyalists ? I don't want to order two on Friday and later discover in the book that it's only possible to field a single one...


Having not seen the book, presumably loyalist only. There’s only 25 Warlords of Ordo Sinister, and they’re basically the Emperors own Titan Legion. (Iirc, been a while since I read Inferno).


Think that broadly matches their Heresy volume?


That’s where I’m getting the info from yeah. I haven’t seen the new book, to clarify. Just from what I’m remembering of their lore from Inferno, I’d be very surprised if they weren’t loyalist only.


You're remembering largely correctly, 20 not 25, (5 in each of the 4 crypt-fortresses) but otherwise yea they are the emperors own.

What is interesting is they are not actually [a] Titan Legio, but an Ordo with Titans. So I wonder how they will fit in the game? will you only be able to take one as a support titan or will it just say "treat them as a legio"

*edit: fixing grammar.


That's a fair point...possible that they're 'allies' of sorts for loyalists. Although the text seems to imply that there are more Psi-Titans than just the Warlord, it doesn't appear that the models will be available. So maybe they won't have a full Legio-style set of rules yet. Of course, maybe the other Titan classes don't get the left hand of doom or anything really unique, so unique models aren't required to fill out a maniple. Lots of ways this could sort out.

Edit: 'Allies' for traitors in the form of daemon engines could be (are probably?) coming as soon as the Kado campaign book.

I guess we know why they were featuring Ordo Sinister in a book that seemed more about the Shadow Crusade Legios. The model is pretty terrific.

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endlesswaltz123 wrote:
frankr wrote:
 ImAGeek wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
 ImAGeek wrote:
CorwinB wrote:
Strange that the upcoming decals are not for the Iron Crusade Legios (Praesagius, Suturvora, Audax...).

Anyone knows if it's possible to field Psi-Titans for the renegade side, or are they exclusive to Loyalists ? I don't want to order two on Friday and later discover in the book that it's only possible to field a single one...


Having not seen the book, presumably loyalist only. There’s only 25 Warlords of Ordo Sinister, and they’re basically the Emperors own Titan Legion. (Iirc, been a while since I read Inferno).


Think that broadly matches their Heresy volume?


That’s where I’m getting the info from yeah. I haven’t seen the new book, to clarify. Just from what I’m remembering of their lore from Inferno, I’d be very surprised if they weren’t loyalist only.


You're remembering largely correctly, 20 not 25, (5 in each of the 4 crypt-fortresses) but otherwise yea they are the emperors own.

What is interesting is they are not actually [a] Titan Legio, but an Ordo with Titans. So I wonder how they will fit in the game? will you only be able to take one as a support titan or will it just say "treat them as a legio"

*edit: fixing grammar.


Where the confusion seems to be is the big E ordered 25 titans, yet we know of only 4 crypt-fortresses, so either 5 are in reserve, or used for a different project entirely.

One was destroyed whilst fighting the eldar though, where there any losses on Prospero?

Two of them might be the ones guarding the gates to the inner chamber of the Golden Throne. Which also probably means the last three were (or still are) involved in fighting the warp incursion Magnus triggered.

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Those are Ignatum, the only Legio of the Ferrum Morgulus to remain entirely loyal, so they get that honour.
   
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While not mentioned, could there be a new card pack to accompany Shadow and Iron?

The Psi-Titan has a new cannon and theres the Ursus Claw...maybe some more weapons on the way too?

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So a bit of a whinge, but GW's transfer releases for AT continue to puzzle me. Its looking more likely that either or both Legio Metallica and Ignatum will not feature in the new book. So thats two sheets of icons for Legios with no relation to the new campaign book, no official colour plates, and accompanied by Knight houses that are known to have changed there heraldry post Heresy. Although I suppose that's still better than the information available on House's Vi, Hyboras and Turbidos?
   
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None are mentioned as falling on Prospero, but the details on that particular Titan engagement are very sparse.
   
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GoatboyBeta wrote:
So a bit of a whinge, but GW's transfer releases for AT continue to puzzle me. Its looking more likely that either or both Legio Metallica and Ignatum will not feature in the new book. So thats two sheets of icons for Legios with no relation to the new campaign book, no official colour plates, and accompanied by Knight houses that are known to have changed there heraldry post Heresy. Although I suppose that's still better than the information available on House's Vi, Hyboras and Turbidos?

I have some issues with the transfers as well. Out of the eleven we’ve seen only four are traitor legions and two of them have been discontinued. My guess as to why Metallica and Ignatum are being released this weekend is because they are two of the more iconic legions. Ignatum is featured heavily in the fluff and Metallica was the studio’s legion when Titan Legions was released.
   
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Smaug wrote:
GoatboyBeta wrote:
So a bit of a whinge, but GW's transfer releases for AT continue to puzzle me. Its looking more likely that either or both Legio Metallica and Ignatum will not feature in the new book. So thats two sheets of icons for Legios with no relation to the new campaign book, no official colour plates, and accompanied by Knight houses that are known to have changed there heraldry post Heresy. Although I suppose that's still better than the information available on House's Vi, Hyboras and Turbidos?

I have some issues with the transfers as well. Out of the eleven we’ve seen only four are traitor legions and two of them have been discontinued. My guess as to why Metallica and Ignatum are being released this weekend is because they are two of the more iconic legions. Ignatum is featured heavily in the fluff and Metallica was the studio’s legion when Titan Legions was released.


I wonder if they are going to do full size versions, and if they are going to bring back some of the discontinued full size Legion transfer sheets. Actually looking at the website at Titan stuff, I remember the Reaver chainfist going away, but when did the Lucius Alpha head disappear?
   
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Iracundus wrote:
 Alpharius wrote:
Or the Ram...or the Wrecker!

Those were a hoot too...


Unfortunately that is about all they were. They were such unreliable gimmicks (and often with cripplingly short effective range) that I never saw them fielded. It was far better to use that weapons hardpoint for a more conventional gun.


Ah yes, agreed! (Partially!)

Did your Titans never make it into close combat?

But anyway, sometimes we actually played the game for fun too, so occasionally the weirder Titan weapons saw the field in our games - and may soon again too!

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If the loyalists get Psi-titans, then we should get Banelords for our side.
   
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Loyalists are definitely getting Psi-Titans.

There's no 'if' about it!

An updated Banelord would be great to see too though...
   
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 zedmeister wrote:
That Psi-Titan!

Agreed.

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 Alpharius wrote:
Loyalists are definitely getting Psi-Titans.

There's no 'if' about it!

An updated Banelord would be great to see too though...


Question isn't do loyalist get or do ONLY loyalist get it.

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Patriarch wrote:
Those are simplified versions of the pistons on the FW Warlord at 40k scale. Those connect the upper arms to the torso. Clearly too fiddly to replicate (or build) on the AT scale Warlord. I don't miss them, and it allows the upper arms/weapons to rotate if the joint is magnetised.


They exist on the 40k scale Warlord as well (in between the arms to torso ones that are missing from the AT version), you can see them in this picture.
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tneva82 wrote:
 Alpharius wrote:
Loyalists are definitely getting Psi-Titans.

There's no 'if' about it!

An updated Banelord would be great to see too though...


Question isn't do loyalist get or do ONLY loyalist get it.


Only Loyalist - the Ordo Sinister isn't a Titan Legion as such but is part of the Imperial Household, the Emperor's own.
   
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 Alpharius wrote:
Iracundus wrote:
 Alpharius wrote:
Or the Ram...or the Wrecker!

Those were a hoot too...


Unfortunately that is about all they were. They were such unreliable gimmicks (and often with cripplingly short effective range) that I never saw them fielded. It was far better to use that weapons hardpoint for a more conventional gun.


Ah yes, agreed! (Partially!)

Did your Titans never make it into close combat?

But anyway, sometimes we actually played the game for fun too, so occasionally the weirder Titan weapons saw the field in our games - and may soon again too!


I only ever saw Tyranid Titans consistently make it into close combat, because it took so much firepower to drop them. All other Titans were susceptible to critical hit locations being knocked out, usually from being swamped by mass number of shots such as from Imperial Guard heavy weapon companies or artillery companies, or Eldar Titans armed with twin Pulsars and twin lascannon wings. Players that initially thought they could ignore "the little guys" and walk their Titans out, were rapidly disabused of their notions of Titan invulnerability/invincibility.
   
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See, that's where the Banelord's Hellstrike Cannon and Havoc Missile Rack excelled in clearing chaff like Imperial Guard artillery and heavy weapons.
   
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What game are we talking about again? If we're talking about fluff void shield absorb range fire, and the melee weapon like Arioch fist also come with Vulcan Mega bolter to spray down infantry.

The armor on Reaver are also thick enough to resist many lascannon or earthshaker round directly, while for the Warlords most weapon except destroyer weapon will simply bounce off, assuming they somehow get through (multiple layers of) void shield.

The only reliable way an infantry unit can take down titan is by breaching the hull and kill the crew.

Or they can fly and bring a good enough bomb to detonate the reactor on the back.

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