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While I have no stake in the Beli-Bringer, its one they should really release sooner rather than later...

LOL, do you remember this?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/11/13/guns-for-your-god-machines/

SamusDrake wrote:
While I have no stake in the Beli-Bringer, its one they should really release sooner rather than later...

LOL, do you remember this?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/11/13/guns-for-your-god-machines/

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Reaver-Titan-Weapons-Melta-Volcano-Cannons-2019

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Warlord-Titan-Plasma-Annihilator-Frame-2019

Yup, those sprues.

Do you remember the Facebook outrage? Christ that was funny and scary at the same time.

We should be due an Engine Kill article today so we'll hopefully see more detail on the Warmaster.

Or, more likely, we'll see another Knight appear
(If they do release the Asterios, I hope they take the opportunity to bring its rules back into line...)

 gorgon wrote:
I would think that the WL Psi-Titan shows the path forward for corrupted engines...i.e. hybrid kits. They can probably get more done that way than by waiting for plastic manufacturing capacity. And I think the Banelord would be the obvious first choice as a counterpoint to the Psi-Titan.

But who knows?

I think the suscess if the Psi-Titan is what has delayed the Traitor version. The sales of this showed the demand which in turn will lead to a plastic rather than hybrid / resin kit. So I wouldn't be surprised if the traitor titans turn out to be plastic kits, with then some weapon / variants in resin.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/01/26/you-thought-the-warlord-was-big-try-the-warmaster-titan/

Dude

Unless there are more weapon options than those shown, it'll cost between 1,060 and 1,120pts

Going to be an interesting challenge to use effectively. Seems like it would be long-range fire support based on speed and size but it's more of a mid-field anchor for your force based on weapon ranges. Guess that's where the additional durability comes in.

Wow, that's going to be a beast. I do like the reactor upgrade cards for it.

for 850 points minimum, looking around 1000+ with upgrades, im not sure its actually going to be tough enough. it costs 2x as much as warlord with only being 1 harder to hurt it, 1 more void shield and 1 more crit damage space. This will not be that much harder to kill than a single warlord titan and I have seen a single warhound pack nuke a warlord in 1 turn

 Mothman wrote:
for 850 points minimum, looking around 1000+ with upgrades, im not sure its actually going to be tough enough. it costs 2x as much as warlord with only being 1 harder to hurt it, 1 more void shield and 1 more crit damage space. This will not be that much harder to kill than a single warlord titan and I have seen a single warhound pack nuke a warlord in 1 turn

It also requires a minimum of 13+ to damage on all locations and the damage tracks are longer. Not forgetting more servitor clades and a longer shield track. Add that all together and it's going to take a fair bit more punishment before it falls.

Holy moley.

Edit: Yeah, 13+ is no joke.

Also it’s piloted by a princess! :p

The void shield track stays at 3+ for longer than most titans have shields. I'm really curious to see how the extended damage tracks affect a game too. Killing these things quickly is going to require some luck with targeted attacks

 xttz wrote:
The void shield track stays at 3+ for longer than most titans have shields. I'm really curious to see how the extended damage tracks affect a game too. Killing these things quickly is going to require some luck with targeted attacks

Yeah, it's going to take an absolute beating. Especially if you take the Infusive Supercoolant upgrade to drain heat. Add in legio traits and you can really push this fella while keeping it relatively cool

I kinda don’t like that it has five void generators on one shoulder and two on the other though, visually.

Also interesting is you can mix and match the veritable raft of shoulder weapons. Two vulcan arrays with the plasma destructors will put serious pressure on an enemy Titan

Another typo. Plasma Blastgun for warmaster now have +1 long range instead of -1.

Most weapon shown does have quite short range for such a slow titan. Since it had no 360 arc weapon it's gonna be quite easy to flank.

Chopstick wrote:
Another typo. Plasma Blastgun for warmaster now have +1 long range instead of -1.

Most weapon shown does have quite short range for such a slow titan. Since it had no 360 arc weapon it's gonna be quite easy to flank.

Weirdly enough it has maneouver 1/3 so it can turn quite efficiently. But, yes, without support this thing will struggle.

changemod wrote:
I kinda don’t like that it has five void generators on one shoulder and two on the other though, visually.

The void generators are mounted at an angle, so the far shoulder ones are probably just hidden.

 zedmeister wrote:

 xttz wrote:
The void shield track stays at 3+ for longer than most titans have shields. I'm really curious to see how the extended damage tracks affect a game too. Killing these things quickly is going to require some luck with targeted attacks

Yeah, it's going to take an absolute beating. Especially if you take the Infusive Supercoolant upgrade to drain heat. Add in legio traits and you can really push this fella while keeping it relatively cool

I just realised that the new shoulder weapons count as two extra locations. So previously rolling a 'special' result on the dice just directed hits to the body, now they'll randomly go to one of two weapon systems. That drastically reduces the odds of non-targeted attacks hitting the body.

That's a big boy, alright... And apparently it will only be available as support of an existing Maniple, so only for really big games...

 xttz wrote:

 zedmeister wrote:

 xttz wrote:
The void shield track stays at 3+ for longer than most titans have shields. I'm really curious to see how the extended damage tracks affect a game too. Killing these things quickly is going to require some luck with targeted attacks

Yeah, it's going to take an absolute beating. Especially if you take the Infusive Supercoolant upgrade to drain heat. Add in legio traits and you can really push this fella while keeping it relatively cool

I just realised that the new shoulder weapons count as two extra locations. So previously rolling a 'special' result on the dice just directed hits to the body, now they'll randomly go to one of two weapon systems. That drastically reduces the odds of non-targeted attacks hitting the body.

Ya true, good point. Firs time we've seen special come up.

If a knight lance can take one as support, the absolute minimum you could get this monster into a game would be 1,510 points. All nine of the knights armed with avengers and melee weapons.

Thats pretty mental.

 zedmeister wrote:

Chopstick wrote:
Another typo. Plasma Blastgun for warmaster now have +1 long range instead of -1.

Most weapon shown does have quite short range for such a slow titan. Since it had no 360 arc weapon it's gonna be quite easy to flank.

Weirdly enough it has maneouver 1/3 so it can turn quite efficiently. But, yes, without support this thing will struggle.

I find it weird its every bit as maneuverable as a warlord, and then some.


Also noticed that melee options seems forthcoming, the plasmatic locomotors thing references weapons without the melee trait.


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SamusDrake wrote:
If a knight lance can take one as support, the absolute minimum you could get this monster into a game would be 1,510 points. All nine of the knights armed with avengers and melee weapons.

Thats pretty mental.

Another reason to avoid playing against knight lances lol

A potential maximum strength of 23. Phew! Using two of those in short range will evaporate Warhounds and probably Reavers as well.

So in terms of releases, there is the Titan (obviously), a weapon card deck, new book, normally there is a strategy card pack to go with the book, potentially thick card stock terminals (I know the Warmaster will come with one, but it'll be the tin card with no holes in it). Anything else I've missed?

 Crablezworth wrote:


Another reason to avoid playing against knight lances lol

Yeah, shame we can't take a lance of Porphyrions!




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 TheSecretSquig wrote:
So in terms of releases, there is the Titan (obviously), a weapon card deck, new book, normally there is a strategy card pack to go with the book, potentially thick card stock terminals (I know the Warmaster will come with one, but it'll be the tin card with no holes in it). Anything else I've missed?

Firewasp transfer sheet.

 zedmeister wrote:
A potential maximum strength of 23. Phew! Using two of those in short range will evaporate Warhounds and probably Reavers as well.

Might also evaporate your Warmaster too; +4 heat is no joke even with the extra pips.


On the other hand I like that it has these upgrades; speed tweak or coolshot is a good choice though I’d like to see anchor turn and seismic sensor as options too.

Edit: makes me feel all tingly inside when I consider the potential of an Imperator macro-plasma annihilator in these terms…

Titans can drain void shield instead of reactor and 3/6 result for the orange roll are S9 hit, which will have a harder time doing any damage to the Warmaster

Chopstick wrote:
Titans can drain void shield instead of reactor

They can?