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Oh I see. Yeah, it seems relatively unchanged where I'm concerned with my first Titan-Knight force. Thankfully...

Cheers for that.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Tau shouldn't get Titans. They have already gone far enough in 5he suit heavy direction, they need to veer back and focus on aircraft and tanks/heavy tanks.

Tau should get huge weaponary, but I agree that they could veer in another direction - super heavy fliers that move at cruising speed; super heavy tanks and such. Again all things that Epic or even just AT can do that 40K just can nevre really do justice to properly (unless you've a small fortune; a lot of time and a small sports pitch sized table and mob of friends to play)

SamusDrake wrote:

 Crablezworth wrote:


Yes, the modularity "thing" that was a core feature of the game system and primary benefit of said aforementioned game system so much so that even the terminals are modular to account for said core feature, that one, yes. The one they've deviated from entirely to sell over priced resin with no options.

Agreed.

Afterall, players were screaming murder when they announced the Sunfury titan but no individual weapon sprue for their expensive Warlord titans. This being a much larger and thus more expensive plastic titan, I'm surprised the outrage wasn't greater.

Right, it was the screaming that made them do it in the first place. The marketing plan wasn't to sell sprues instead of kits. They wanted people to buy whole kits, a plan they ended up returning to with the Warmaster. Which bombed BUT also didn't generate 'outrage' because too many players weren't that interested in that chassis beyond collecting one. Totally different dynamics than with the Warlord, which is far more commonly fielded in the game, can be fielded in multiples, etc.

I saw a good deal of people upset about the Iconoclast, but once it turned out the rules were a good deal worse a lot of that turned into ambivalence.

 gorgon wrote:


Right, it was the screaming that made them do it in the first place. The marketing plan wasn't to sell sprues instead of kits. They wanted people to buy whole kits, a plan they ended up returning to with the Warmaster. Which bombed BUT also didn't generate 'outrage' because too many players weren't that interested in that chassis beyond collecting one. Totally different dynamics than with the Warlord, which is far more commonly fielded in the game, can be fielded in multiples, etc.

An unexpected increase in plastic production would at least explain the lateness of many kits going forward at that time. Doom of Molech was painfully unsupported and the Warbringer felt late to the party. Then of course Covid hit and turned the world upside down...

Not sure if this was mentioned previously on Warhammer Community, but I just noticed this stratagems pdf...

https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/4snTipzBcxSLeGh5.pdf

...and thought I'd highlight it here in case there is the odd book that is no longer available.

Thanks very much

SamusDrake wrote:

Not sure if this was mentioned previously on Warhammer Community, but I just noticed this stratagems pdf...

https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/4snTipzBcxSLeGh5.pdf

...and thought I'd highlight it here in case there is the odd book that is no longer available.

I think this is the same one that was put out in April.

Yeah, it seems I missed an article.

Haven't seen this mentioned elsewhere, but apologies if it has.

The graviton and conversion weapons for AT have SKUs with product range 26 rather than 03 which the rest of the AT range uses.

In my mind it would be an odd choice to do that unless GW are planning to have the Epic and AT ranges continue as separate ranges with future releases for both.

Is that sku range just the Forgeworld products or does that include GW's own range?

SamusDrake wrote:
Is that sku range just the Forgeworld products or does that include GW's own range?

03 was used by Forge World up until the last two releases, and all the GW products (including the last two books)

In that case it certainly is interesting.

Speaking of the FW weapons, are their stats described anywhere, or is it literally a surprise when you buy the arms, and get the included card? The wisdom of trying to sell me pricey bits with mystery stats feels... weird.

There are articles on warhammer community for the stat as well as youtube and blog review that shouldn't be hard to find with google image.

So... New Warhound weapon options:

I hope the sprue is available separately before too long - I have 4 Warhounds I’m yet to build!

I'm hoping the sprue comes with 2 of each, and that it heralds a new batch of plastic sprues for other titans, especially the warbringer which never gets to play in the fw reindeer games

I find that arm connector bit on the Warhound's missile pod to be a bit weird. Couldn't they have designed a missile pod that didn't need that?

I know I'm nitpicking here!

Looks like it is to give it an offset so it can rotate without running into the hull.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Looks like it is to give it an offset so it can rotate without running into the hull.

I guess, I might just stick with the ones I've designed myself:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Looks like it is to give it an offset so it can rotate without running into the hull.

Probably this. The oldschool look where it was just a cylinder stuck to the shoulder joint also looks impossible to aim without rotating the whole torso.

 Malika2 wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Looks like it is to give it an offset so it can rotate without running into the hull.

I guess, I might just stick with the ones I've designed myself:

You holding out on me bro





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NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
Speaking of the FW weapons, are their stats described anywhere, or is it literally a surprise when you buy the arms, and get the included card? The wisdom of trying to sell me pricey bits with mystery stats feels... weird.

Ya it's really dumb, worse still you don't even get a card, you get the opportunity to cut one out of cardboard backing of the weapon's plastic blister. Premium product


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 ImAGeek wrote:
I hope the sprue is available separately before too long - I have 4 Warhounds I’m yet to build!

Not spiteful enough to their fanbase

 Rayvon wrote:

The increased scale combined with resin titans seems to be prohibitive to many possible customers.

I think the choice of material used for the main forces could well make or break the game.

What was the reason given for not making them in 6mm ?
I cannot seem to remember..

The Titans for AT?

When I spoke with the sculptor when it was first shown at Warhammerfest, they explained the original didn’t really have a scale and the wanted to change that.

First considering “what’s the smallest we could do infantry in”.

And….that’s about it.

Speculation time (possibly copium!), but given that:

a) It has been out of stock for a while
b) GW will want to standardise 'Epic scale' branding on related boxes
c) The new base sizes
d) The new Epic core box includes Warhounds now

...we may well see a revamped Titanicus starter box too.

GW could use the chance to throw together an alternate bundle of titans and knights which builds well into an Epic army, but also works independently.

 xttz wrote:
Speculation time (possibly copium!), but given that:

a) It has been out of stock for a while
b) GW will want to standardise 'Epic scale' branding on related boxes
c) The new base sizes
d) The new Epic core box includes Warhounds now

...we may well see a revamped Titanicus starter box too.

GW could use the chance to throw together an alternate bundle of titans and knights which builds well into an Epic army, but also works independently.

I have a feeling the Titans will be consolidated into a single box. So a single reaver box + all weapons. We'll probably see a lot of the resin weapons shift to plastic

 zedmeister wrote:

I have a feeling the Titans will be consolidated into a single box. So a single reaver box + all weapons. We'll probably see a lot of the resin weapons shift to plastic

Agreed, they'll want to continue the SKU consolidation they've done for other product ranges recently.

For example I bet Reavers go from £37.50 to £40, but include the new style base, both weapon sprues, and thin card terminal & weapon cards like the Warmaster had. That lets them drop the expensive cardstock terminals which won't sell as well these days.

either the cards go in the box, or what happens is a rules change so there are no longer cards as part of a new "Epic" system

to be honest while I think the thicker card terminals are very nice I have to say any GW game that requires cards of some sort is on a hiding to nothing given their track record at keeping such in stock

they would actually do better to have such as injection plastic "cards" designed for a quick spray and ink wash, at least they could make those in house

“Ten things you need to know” article for Epic 5.0
Not actually ten things we want to know or couldn’t have guessed already but key takeaways are:

Alternating activation by “detachment”

Detachments receive hidden orders at the start of the turn

Armies are bought as “Formations” which are different from detachments somehow

Anti-infantry weapons like Assault Cannon can’t scratch Titans whole lascannon are best for vehicles (AP/AT/MW distinctions?)

 schoon wrote:
So... New Warhound weapon options:

A melta weapon for Warhounds? That can presumably make targeted attacks?