40K 8th Edition Release Date Rumours

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**Chikout**

Hastings has popped up on the war of sigmar blog saying there will be completely new imperial units made by guillemot and Cawl that will include new types of marines and will feature in a new starter set later this year.

**StraightSilver**

Chikout wrote:
Hastings has popped up on the war of sigmar blog saying there will be completely new imperial units made by guillemot and Cawl that will include new types of marines and will feature in a new starter set later this year.

I'd forgotten about the marine rumour, but brand new imperial units sounds very interesting. That could mean October slot is used for minis - new Space Marines are always a big deal.

And I'd forgotten that although October is technically the 30th anniversary they did celebrate it early for the 25th anniversary.

**Kanluwen**

Chikout wrote:
Hastings has popped up on the war of sigmar blog saying there will be completely new imperial units made by guillemot and Cawl that will include new types of marines and will feature in a new starter set later this year.

I want to believe him 100%, but he posted it literally right under the ending of Rise of the Primarch...which basically says that.

He has a lot of interesting stuff to say though.

**zerosignal**

Gak, I hope not.

The IoM has just had lots of love.

Time for the bad guys to get something, otherwise this all becomes very pointless.

**Kanluwen**

Before whining, go read the comments that he makes.

According to Hastings, there's at least two more Daemon Primarchs on the way.

**Chad Warden**

I guess this guy was telling the truth

**TheDraconicLord**

Chad Warden wrote:
I guess this guy was telling the truth

Again, lots and lots of salt... and yet ... just the idea of such a massive change ...

Spoiler:

What a time to be alive!

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Could be interesting - and having Gulliman and Cawl behind it does make thematic sense.

**Gamgee**

Super Marines... *sigh* Dragon Ball Z here we come. I guess that means the old xenos will be needing to become Awakened Namekrons, Ginyu Force Tau, and Perfect Nids.

**SeanDrake**

SeanDrake wrote:
if that don't foreshadow a new powergrab I will be very surprised. The Enlightened empire home to free humanity,aeldari,custodes and Space Marines that don't need flea collars.

Anyone who at this stage does not think this is the 40k End Times fluffwise is in denial.

The ground has been laid for massive amounts of change army wise. We have the Potential for but not limited too:
A new line of guard given cadia and catachan got krumped good.
A new line of combined eldar, pretty self explanatory.
A new breed of super marine, using new armour developed off Robot Ghoulman's new super suit.
New Chaos forces with Primarch and god specific troops.
New wolfy mcwolfson all wolfy all the time wulvern force.
More loyalist primarchs and there forces.
Reformed Ultramarines Legion and new mcragge based empire.
Terran based genestellar cult with more units.

The list goes on.

To quote myself from the GS3 thread I seem cynical but so far I called it pretty well.

I really did not want "sigmarines" in 40 k but I guessed it was inevitable, In the Uk gw minatures are protected by design rites which last 30 years how old is 40k this year

**unmercifulconker**

RG's blood or not, those new marines best be decked head to toe in purity seals, have a custom made tabard from the cloth draped over fallen martyrs and weapons that emit both a menacing and holy vibe.

How else are we supposed to tell these marines are true crusaders of the mighty Emperor's cause?

**Gamgee**

So uh are the Tau, Necrons, Dark Eldar, and regular Nids being squatted then? There have been no rumors for any of them on any front except maybe a Necron C'tan.

It sure sounds like it.

**Strg Alt**

@Chikout

Completely new imperial units and new types of marines?

This could mean a drastic aesthetic change. Older models like Cadians/Catachans wouldn´t mesh well with the new guardsmen. There is also the possibility of another scale creep concerning infantry. This has happened before for the Orks. Compare the 2nd edition greenskins with 3rd edition models. The former were comedic trigger-happy gun nuts and the latter grim beefed-up trigger-happy brutes.

**ncshooter426**

Obviously this is the launch date for plastic Sisters. That gak will flat out wreck the internet.

....

....just let me dream.

**Kanluwen**

Strg Alt wrote:
@Chikout

Completely new imperial units and new types of marines?

This could mean a drastic aesthetic change. Older models like Cadians/Catachans wouldn´t mesh well with the new guardsmen. There is also the possibility of another scale creep concerning infantry. This has happened before for the Orks. Compare the 2nd edition greenskins with 3rd edition models. The former were comedic trigger-happy gun nuts and the latter grim beefed-up trigger-happy brutes.

From what Hastings is saying, it's strictly Marines and weapons.

Cadians would likely be fine, but might get new weapons added into their box when/if they get redone.

Catachans are a lost cause though. Those models have been trash for decades.

**shinros**

Chad Warden wrote:
I guess this guy was telling the truth

Hmmm, some part of me hope this is not true I would be all for space marines getting new gear, honestly it does kinda sound like something the emperor would do if he could walk about. I mean they are fighting CSM on warp juice of course you would need to make something "better".

**Vector Strike**

I don't mind "faster, stronger, smarter, better, spiritual lieger" marines... as long as they're costed appropriately.

**unmercifulconker**

Oh yeah I hope they will be just a 'small elite' lot and not replace the entire army of marines. I wonder if they will just be for Ultramarine's and their successors since they will have RG's blood.

**VeteranNoob**

Chikout wrote:
Hastings has popped up on the war of sigmar blog saying there will be completely new imperial units made by guillemot and Cawl that will include new types of marines and will feature in a new starter set later this year.

This one is true and pretty clear from the ending paragraphs in the book. Though opens door for all factions. Which apparently are up on the Internutz

**shinros**

VeteranNoob wrote:
Chikout wrote:
Hastings has popped up on the war of sigmar blog saying there will be completely new imperial units made by guillemot and Cawl that will include new types of marines and will feature in a new starter set later this year.

This one is true and pretty clear from the ending paragraphs in the book. Though opens door for all factions. Which apparently are up on the Internutz

Honestly I can see GW turning the tempestus scions as the new "standard" for guard considering the end of the book if they are going to produce new tech and the like.

unmercifulconker wrote:
Oh yeah I hope they will be just a 'small elite' lot and not replace the entire army of marines. I wonder if they will just be for Ultramarine's and their successors since they will have RG's blood.

This is what I would like to see for them to be a new "elite" sort of unit.

**jreilly89**

So, a picture of a quote about no holiday time and a picture of a thread from 4chan? Man, hard hitting rumors!

**LightKing**

Chikout wrote:
Hastings has popped up on the war of sigmar blog saying there will be completely new imperial units made by guillemot and Cawl that will include new types of marines and will feature in a new starter set later this year.

yep

im banking on a new subtitle for 8th edition

Warhammer 40:000: Age of Guilliman

**streetsamurai**

Messiah wrote:
Mr. CyberPunk wrote:
Crimson wrote:
casvalremdeikun wrote:
Why can't vehicles have Armor Saves instead of Toughness values? Keep the AV system, but give every vehicle an Armor save on top of that. That way your dedicated AV-busting weapons still serve a purpose, but Scatbikes have a tougher time taking out a tank.

No, AV needs to go too. It is completely stupid to have a two different methods to roll for basically the same thing.

Not at all, a vehicle and an ''organic'' being are 2 vastly different things. It makes perfect sense that they would follow different mechanisms for receiving damage.

Just curious. Should Necrons have AV?

At the end of the day, A necron is a robotical humanoid. It is much more similar to a human than a tank is. So no, they souldn't use AV.

As fot these rumours. Marines marines, tech being allowed once again. Seems like they are really wreaking the setting

**LightKing**

streetsamurai wrote:
Messiah wrote:
Mr. CyberPunk wrote:
Crimson wrote:
casvalremdeikun wrote:
Why can't vehicles have Armor Saves instead of Toughness values? Keep the AV system, but give every vehicle an Armor save on top of that. That way your dedicated AV-busting weapons still serve a purpose, but Scatbikes have a tougher time taking out a tank.

No, AV needs to go too. It is completely stupid to have a two different methods to roll for basically the same thing.

Not at all, a vehicle and an ''organic'' being are 2 vastly different things. It makes perfect sense that they would follow different mechanisms for receiving damage.

Just curious. Should Necrons have AV?

At the end of the day, A necron is a robotical humanoid. It is much more similar to a human than a tank is. So no, they souldn't use AV.

As fot these rumours. Marines marines, tech being allowed once again. Seems like they are really wreaking the setting

there not "wrecking" the setting, their moving on....the setting has been stale for over 30 years, its time for some changes

someone like Roboute has the ability to make major changes like this

**OgreChubbs**

I can see them stunting the imperal guard and making them new. The did it to fantasy anything easy to copy was dropped.

So my guess is space marines and guard will be replaced or gone. Space marines are to generic and not super duper men anymore. So they will make them all custodians of the golden toilet or a new race of them. Sigmarines cross platform ladies.

**streetsamurai**

Let's just say that we have a vastly different opinion. For me 40k is a setting, not a story that need continuous evolutions. Making technological advancement no longer a crime amount to removing one of the collest apsect of the setting imo.

Oh well, It seems that GW is no longer for me. AOS completely killed my love for Warhammer, and I fear (note that I said fear, since we don't know for sure what's coming) that 8th edition will do the same for 40k

**Joyboozer**

LightKing wrote:
streetsamurai wrote:
Messiah wrote:
Mr. CyberPunk wrote:
Crimson wrote:
casvalremdeikun wrote:
Why can't vehicles have Armor Saves instead of Toughness values? Keep the AV system, but give every vehicle an Armor save on top of that. That way your dedicated AV-busting weapons still serve a purpose, but Scatbikes have a tougher time taking out a tank.

No, AV needs to go too. It is completely stupid to have a two different methods to roll for basically the same thing.

Not at all, a vehicle and an ''organic'' being are 2 vastly different things. It makes perfect sense that they would follow different mechanisms for receiving damage.

Just curious. Should Necrons have AV?

At the end of the day, A necron is a robotical humanoid. It is much more similar to a human than a tank is. So no, they souldn't use AV.

As fot these rumours. Marines marines, tech being allowed once again. Seems like they are really wreaking the setting

there not "wrecking" the setting, their moving on....the setting has been stale for over 30 years, its time for some changes

someone like Roboute has the ability to make major changes like this

If the setting is so stale, why do you constantly have to ask questions about what has happened?

**Dr Mathias**

Bigger marine models (Gullimarines) might be a way to sneak 'True-Scale' in without rendering older marine armies instantly obsolete.

**OgreChubbs**

streetsamurai wrote:
Let's just say that we have a vastly different opinion. For me 40k is a setting, not a story that need continuous evolutions. Making technological advancement no longer a crime amount to removing one of the collest apsect of the setting imo.

Oh well, It seems that GW is no longer for me. AOS completely killed my love for Warhammer, and I fear (note that I said fear, since we don't know for sure what's coming) that 8th edition will do the same for 40k

I think the fact they tore Down the space marine and replaced it with a sigmarine shows they are moving forward and marines will be gone soon.

**andysonic1**

OgreChubbs wrote:
streetsamurai wrote:
Let's just say that we have a vastly different opinion. For me 40k is a setting, not a story that need continuous evolutions. Making technological advancement no longer a crime amount to removing one of the collest apsect of the setting imo.

Oh well, It seems that GW is no longer for me. AOS completely killed my love for Warhammer, and I fear (note that I said fear, since we don't know for sure what's coming) that 8th edition will do the same for 40k
I think the fact they tore Down the space marine and replaced it with a sigmarine shows they are moving forward and marines will be gone soon.

Do people honestly think this or is this just trolling?