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 zedmeister wrote:
A few sets listed on eBay, a few sold for £120...

ing scalpers...

Pure greed.

Why are people so salty about the release. Of course they weren't going to bulk up the quantity for the first wave since they were testing the waters a bit with such a release. Wipe the salt off the foreheads ladies and gents it's all good. Be happy GW is even testing the waters!

It is odd that GW put all the effort they have into hyping the game and they don't have a digital version of the rulebook ready to go. Especially when they have a pdf on there website with a ton of extra rules.

stewe128 wrote:
Why are people so salty about the release. Of course they weren't going to bulk up the quantity for the first wave since they were testing the waters a bit with such a release. Wipe the salt off the foreheads ladies and gents it's all good. Be happy GW is even testing the waters!

Because multiple sources at GW have said this is a one and done release. Yes, that could change but currently it's prudent to assume if you don't have a copy preordered, you aren't getting one.

 Morskul wrote:
I have a rules question for anyone in the know...

How many weapons can a model have? I was thinking of giving an Aspiring Champion a power fist, bolter, and combat knife but I'm not sure if that is allowed in the rules (I think in Necromunda you could only have one additional weapon if you had a rifle equivalent).

In Necromunda (1st edition) you are only limited to one heavy weapon per model. Don't know if they changed it in 2nd edition or SWArm.

TonyL707 wrote:

PossumCraft wrote:
Have they like... given up on 40k as a game in its own right?

Seems like every week is a new boxed set with an exciting 'standalone game' repackaging existing models for small scale fighting.

Very boring.

Did you somehow manage to sleep through the whole Gathering Storm release?

A dozen new models at ridiculous prices doesn't change the fact that they are churning out 'mini games' at a rate of knots.

Took the review copy into a FLGS and GW store this morning & while FLGS are in some places better positioned/promised to get stock Warhammer store has to wait until next week for next wave of stock. His words. Amazed they dropped the price to $130 USD makes me wonder if terrain individual kits will drop in price. You can make terrain and combine/customize your board as time goes on. Looks like the only thing is if you want all 3 of the terrain pieces in April WD (2 more coming in May) look to be of same terrain mixed you could make from this box 2.5 kinda--meaning a second stack/flue tower is not included and appears twice in combining the 3 sets together. You do get extra walkways/gantry. Gorgeous box, small scatter/artillery die, red templates. Stores got great kits with sorta lame swag, hard copies for each race. Warhammer Digital had them all listed onlinle (NOT the rulebook yet).

Hopefully stock issue resolves itself next weekend.

Well, if you want one, you can buy one on Ebay, propainted, for just 620$...

I managed to get the last one at a flgs. A bit annoyed still by the situation but I couldn't really resist when I saw it was the last one.

I could have use everything in this box set however if I can't get this set it's not worth me trying to find it at some marked up retailer since I'll be able to get the terrain kits for 25% off when they go retail. Hopefully the terrain kits don't get jacked up to high in price.

wow. injury rules are a disaster. Most of these serious injuries actually gives you an advantage. Will use the table from necromunda

For those already looking at eBay, wait a week at least. Lately, GW has been doing second waves for even their limited releases. Don't reward eBay scalpers.

I'm much less interested in buying, if the physical rulebook is not kept in print, because it's so much harder to find more players and grow the community for an oop game.

And yeah -- they could offer the rulebooks via POD on Drivethrurpg, make a continuous profit, and make no effort at all once the file is set up. As well as keeping fans happy. But frankly it would be daft not to go to a traditional printer and get another few thousand copies printed.

Drivethrurpg? I think you mean http://www.warhammerdigital.com/

 Kellevil wrote:

Manchu wrote:

 Kellevil wrote:
Shouldn't it only be $100?
80 gbp = $100 usd
but on the web site it's $130 usd

GW doesn't use the actual conversion rate.

So they are making $30 extra $$$ per box off of the US customers?

I'd like to introduce you to Australia, New Zealand, Japan...

 BrookM wrote:
Drivethrurpg? I think you mean http://www.warhammerdigital.com/

As soon as they start offering POD, I'm in.

Expecting a snap business decision on a Saturday hours after a new release sells out in 10 minutes seems just a little ridiculous.

Sleipnir wrote:
Expecting a snap business decision on a Saturday hours after a new release sells out in 10 minutes seems just a little ridiculous.

It happened with the limited Sisters Canoness. Went from one and done to On Demand. They are getting better about this sort of thing.

On a side note, I am really happy the terrain is modular. The fact it can be plugged in multiple different ways even after painting is really neat. Will allow for varied battlefields which is exactly what I want for my table. My Forgeworld will be close to complete with this set.

I am going to keep my rulebook, I think. It will be great for small battles with my brother when he is in town. The campaign nature makes it even better.

The Harlequins are amazing, holy crap.
I am glad I have the army.

Do Space Wolves have a faction? I have some old metals I kept I could use for this.

The Guard can choose to be Cadians, Catachans or Steel Legionnaires, I am guessing non-GK SM's will be the same.

GoatboyBeta wrote:It is odd that GW put all the effort they have into hyping the game and they don't have a digital version of the rulebook ready to go. Especially when they have a pdf on there website with a ton of extra rules.

Perhaps it's in progress already but needs some finishing touches. Perhaps only the English localisation is done and they still require some proofreading for French, Yiddish and Klingon. Perhaps the social media intern working from home on a Saturday morning isn't sufficiently updated on the upcoming release schedule to post precise details without talking to their boss. Who knows. I'm sure we'll found out more details when the 9-5 staff clock in next week.

stewe128 wrote:Why are people so salty about the release. Of course they weren't going to bulk up the quantity for the first wave since they were testing the waters a bit with such a release. Wipe the salt off the foreheads ladies and gents it's all good. Be happy GW is even testing the waters!

This, oh my god this. As an online community, we have literally never been in a better place with GW:

They're putting substantial resources into updating several classic games in a relatively short period.

They're communicating upcoming projects weeks or even months in advance, inviting customer feedback in the process

They're making sensible decisions with production scale; using existing models & rules where possible and divesting for a wide range of specialist games (Bloodbowl, Epic, Necromunda-style skirmishes), rather than focusing entirely in something totally new that does not sell*

They're responding to overwhelming demand via the Internet within hours

It wasn't that long ago that every single one of these things would be inconceivable in relation to GW. Yet despite all these positive steps the level of self-entitled whining in this thread is astounding. So GW underestimated the demand on a test-the-waters release? Big whoop. Years ago when the Space Hulk update was announced, put up for pre-order and 'sold out' within minutes - amidst much gnashing of online teeth - I found a revolutionary solution. Rather than cough up to ebay scalpers or protest about their very existence on some Internet forum, instead I walked into an actual GW store and bought the game. It was tough finding my copy of the game among the dozens of others still in stock the day after release, but somehow I made it through the experience.

But let's say the worst-case scenario occurs. Perhaps you're willing to bravely venture out in public to buy something without using the Internet but can't make it in time for whatever reason - your work schedule, family commitments, you've personally been collected by Trazyn, etc. Well you already know from this thread that the terrain will soon be released separately, so you can still have that. GW are already working on an ebook of the updated rules, and in the meantime you can use copies of 2E or Necromunda as reference for 95% of it (or scans that are already surfacing) as a short-term solution. I'm not even going to entertain the idea that someone is annoyed over not getting Marine & Ork sculpts nearly old enough to drink, so let's skip that one. In the long run, a game you want to play being popular is literally the Opposite of a Problem.

Only two kinds of people have any right to be annoyed at this release:

ebay scalpers not getting enough stock to maximise their margins

people with a medical condition requiring them to play new wargames the same weekend of release, or not at all

Anyone else needs to chill the fluff out.

*see Dreadfleet

It's annoying how we don't know anything about the rules for the factions in the book.

These people are never satisfied man. It makes me sick reading some of these posts I'm gonna be honest

stewe128 wrote:
These people are never satisfied man. It makes me sick reading some of these posts I'm gonna be honest

Yes, how dare people want to purchase a product that's been advertised to them for the past several weeks. If anything I'd say these reactions are actually a good thing. It means people are very excited over a new game, and want to actually play the thing.

stewe128 wrote:
These people are never satisfied man. It makes me sick reading some of these posts I'm gonna be honest

Then stop reading them?

Honestly, GW isn't beyond criticism. This kind of release. If it is a one off is ridiculous. I imagine the terrain will get released by itself at some point but the point is game support.

Between this and the Custodes/Sisters release it's been a bit lazy of GW's part.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
There's a thread on their FB page - I've asked for a physical copy of the book to be printed.

Where is this thread?

This was the big thing advertised in White Dwarf and over the past few weeks for 40K. It is fully understandable that people are disappointed or angry. It is like GW advertised it just to piss people off. Look at the 40K Facebook page. The comments are filled with disappointed customers. Hopefully GW listens to them by either widening the release or releasing the book separately (the terrain is available separate anyway).

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
There's a thread on their FB page - I've asked for a physical copy of the book to be printed.

Where is this thread?

It disappeared not long after the comment section turned from 'v. disappoint GW, was looking forward to this' and 'please reprint the rules' to variations of telling GW on 'how their games should fit up their bums' and other gamers letting letting the disappointed know that they 'have snagged several copies that are going up on ebay for large monies lol' or 'how it will be easy to pop on an eye patch, a peg leg, and get your very own copy within 24 hours of release'.

 RexHavoc wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
There's a thread on their FB page - I've asked for a physical copy of the book to be printed.

Where is this thread?

It disappeared not long after the comment section turned from 'v. disappoint GW, was looking forward to this' and 'please reprint the rules' to variations of telling GW on 'how their games should fit up their bums' and other gamers letting letting the disappointed know that they 'have snagged several copies that are going up on ebay for large monies lol' or 'how it will be easy to pop on an eye patch, a peg leg, and get your very own copy within 24 hours of release'.

You know, I doubt they'll do it, but they may be doing a re-release for this good, just as they did with those BB that were sold under a similar set of circumstances. I'd love to see the scalpers be so salty again.

For anyone else with a copy of the rulebook (borrowing my stores copy) it looks as if the scouts in the picture are new. I dont remember the scouts without sniper rifles having goggles and rebreathers as well as backpacks with tools and an auspex.