Fine examples of 'that guy' at the FLGS

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**Shadow Captain Edithae**

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
I always put a measuring tape down set to 24" to make sure deployment zones are 24" apart, then place a couple of dice at that distance for reference. None of our boards are exactly 48" so we just make sure the deployment zones are 24" apart regardless.

Honestly that's what I thought everyone did.

Only in Tournaments, and typically only when my opponents remind me why its necessary. Ordinarily it just doesn't occur to me, its more natural, quicker and easier to just measure in from the board edge.

However I almost exclusively play miniature wargames in a friendly setting now and rarely attend tournaments.

**MechaEmperor7000**

Adeptus Doritos wrote:
Peregrine wrote:
What are they supposed to do, say "you're not allowed to buy this because someone else might want it"? Of course a store is going to sell a product to whoever wants to buy it. You can't expect them to turn down sales and keep a box sitting on the shelf just in case you decide that you want one at some point. That's not how business works.

I'm well aware of how business works. You know how to get around this?

You let your customers know when your shipments are coming in. You can actually deny a sale to someone, too.

Because if this guy's buying up the new cool models as they come out, from a small store- people just carry their business elsewhere. Where they have stock. Again, sooner or later the demand's going to go down. The gaming is going to stop. That guy won't need to buy any models, then. And then the business is done.

That's how a business works, FYI.

Edit: Now that he mentions it was a military town, I'll clue you in- ordering fragile things like GW models to get to your mailing address at the barracks is asking for a crushed box and broken models- sometimes even lost items.

This is generally up to the store to manage, which is why good ones tend to have a "one per customer" limit on hot items so one person can't be a weenier about it and come in, buy the whole stock, and the scalp it back to everyone else. Even if it's not a limited edition, unless they're really low on stock, a store will generally go "you've had enough buddy", albeit politely. I have yet to see any store gleefully sell out their entire inventory of an item to a single person without a shipment coming in the next day unless it's the last handful left.

**Adeptus Doritos**

MechaEmperor7000 wrote:

This is generally up to the store to manage, which is why good ones tend to have a "one per customer" limit on hot items so one person can't be a weenier about it and come in, buy the whole stock, and the scalp it back to everyone else. Even if it's not a limited edition, unless they're really low on stock, a store will generally go "you've had enough buddy", albeit politely. I have yet to see any store gleefully sell out their entire inventory of an item to a single person without a shipment coming in the next day unless it's the last handful left.

Yeah, I'm thinking this store wasn't well-managed. Our local places are pretty good about making sure scalpers don't get their hands on all the stock. New releases are kept behind the counter on a display, and you have to ask for them.

One exception was made to someone buying up a massive amount of models- one guy bought a ton of the Shadow War terrain... he's bringing it back to the store once it's painted and letting people sign it out.

**BrotherGecko**

Adeptus Doritos wrote:
MechaEmperor7000 wrote:

This is generally up to the store to manage, which is why good ones tend to have a "one per customer" limit on hot items so one person can't be a weenier about it and come in, buy the whole stock, and the scalp it back to everyone else. Even if it's not a limited edition, unless they're really low on stock, a store will generally go "you've had enough buddy", albeit politely. I have yet to see any store gleefully sell out their entire inventory of an item to a single person without a shipment coming in the next day unless it's the last handful left.

Yeah, I'm thinking this store wasn't well-managed. Our local places are pretty good about making sure scalpers don't get their hands on all the stock. New releases are kept behind the counter on a display, and you have to ask for them.

One exception was made to someone buying up a massive amount of models- one guy bought a ton of the Shadow War terrain... he's bringing it back to the store once it's painted and letting people sign it out.

It was terribly managed, arguably the worst I have ever seen. Owner was a really nice guy an all but it only goes so far. Besides after he used my direct order money to pay other bills and I had to wait half a month for something that should have taken about a week at best, I stopped bothering. I wasn't the only one had it happened to. So if he had stock in that I wanted then I would buy, but that was obviously pretty rare. Often his stock was just the stuff the TFG sold back for in store credit to buy more magic cards which he then would sell the magic cards to buy more 40k. Eventually he got banned from the practice but as I said, it was basically too little too late by then.

**AllSeeingSkink**

Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
AllSeeingSkink wrote:
I always put a measuring tape down set to 24" to make sure deployment zones are 24" apart, then place a couple of dice at that distance for reference. None of our boards are exactly 48" so we just make sure the deployment zones are 24" apart regardless.

Honestly that's what I thought everyone did.

Only in Tournaments, and typically only when my opponents remind me why its necessary. Ordinarily it just doesn't occur to me, its more natural, quicker and easier to just measure in from the board edge.

However I almost exclusively play miniature wargames in a friendly setting now and rarely attend tournaments.

I almost never play tournaments and pretty much exclusively play friendly matches. Sometimes I measure from the board edge as well but I always measure the board if I'm going to do that because the key distance is the one between the armies, not the distance to the board edge. So if I want to measure from the board edge I just measure, subtract 24, divide by 2 and round down.

Even though I only really play friendly games, that's the way I've done it since I was about 12 at some point in the mid 90's

Basically after I discovered I could win or lose depending on which turn my short ranged units could get in range of my opponent's long ranged units, whether or not my flyers could move far enough to get out of LOS of my opponent's missile units, whether or not my opponent's cavalry will be able to charge on turn 1 or turn 2, etc etc.

**Ghorros**

I've got one!

"That Guy" who puts all his eggs in one giant deathstar unit and then concedes the moment it dies, leading to 10 minute games where he either wins or dies and sulks.

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Yup. It's pretty straight forward business running.

Customer A is one to spend, spend, spend. They account for maybe £1,000.00 of sales in a month. Unfortunately, they're also quite obnoxious in one or more of a variety of ways.

Your other customers? Well they're fairly close knit, but like most nerds are open to others joining their group. You've got maybe 10 of them, all spending around £250 a month each on average (over the course of a year). Except....fewer of them attend regularly because of Customer A....

Customer A is so obnoxious that they enjoy beating on the noobs, which isn't exactly helping, as they're preventing new customer bases from developing - so far he's concerned, his money make him not just King of your shop, but King of the local scene. Be it 40k, MtG, Warmahordes, X-Wing or whatevs, he knows he can pay to win, and he does so. And that win is all he cares about.

So what do you do? Simple. First you have a word with Customer A, at least try to explain his impact. If that doesn't work (and perhaps surprisingly, it often does) you restrict what you sell him. If he kicks off, ban him. Yes you take that hit in the first few months, but you can replace those takings.

**Ketara**

Peregrine wrote:
What are they supposed to do, say "you're not allowed to buy this because someone else might want it"? Of course a store is going to sell a product to whoever wants to buy it. You can't expect them to turn down sales and keep a box sitting on the shelf just in case you decide that you want one at some point. That's not how business works.

**cuda1179**

How about the " I play the most abusive list of the cheesiest army of this edition, but I claim it's all hype. All other armies are over powered though".

I knew a couple guys that ran almost identical Iron Warriors lists with the 3.5 Chaos codex. One admitted it was his tournament list, the other just used it as his take-all comers list. Even when he got the win he'd claim my pre-codex necron were broken because they "almost beat him".

The "I don't know what a fluffy army is" guy. I don't care if your army is fluffy or not, just don't claim the three riptide and scatterbike spam list conforms to some Craftworld doctrine.

The "I'm a tactical marvel" guy when you're army basically runs itself. What edition had the unkillable Faclon? I remember in that edition a guy loaded up on Falcons and thought it he was the best ever because no one could kill him.

**A Town Called Malus**

cuda1179 wrote:

The "I'm a tactical marvel" guy when you're army basically runs itself. What edition had the unkillable Faclon? I remember in that edition a guy loaded up on Falcons and thought it he was the best ever because no one could kill him.

Was that 4th? I can remember that Skimmers had some very good benefits in that edition such as automatically dropping all penetrating hits to glancing hits if they moved over 6".

**MechaEmperor7000**

Definitely 4th. On top of Skimmers being more broke than a 30k player with no self control, the Eldar also had some funky wargear that 1.) Eliminated the one weakness Skimmers had (death upon immobilization after traveling a certain distance), 2.) forced your opponent to roll 2 dice on the vehicle damage chart and apply the lowest of the two results (which means usually you only had to worry about shaken or stunned, and yes they had the generic item that downgraded stunned to shaken too) and 3.) they had something that basically copied the current rules for Flat Out. However, back then Flat Out worked more like WHFB's March (double movement) so this combined with that basically leapt your falcon out of range of most weapons.

If you're talking about using the 3rd edition codex with the 4th edition core rules, it gets even more hilarious. The Crystal Targetting Matrix lets Falcons do the "Move Shoot Move" shenanigans Tau Battlesuits enjoy....except all in the movement phase. And yes, the Star Engines were still a thing back then. They were basically Riptides before Riptides were a thing.

**Cerebrate64**

Not a negative experience really, and I thought the guy was funny.

So I walk into the local game store for the first time to look at prices for Warmachine/40k and theres a guy opening a Dragons of Tarkir booster box a few tables away. I think it was release day, and I go over to browse the Warmachine stuff and the guy stands up screaming at the top of his lungs, holding a card in the air. He runs around the table does a knee slide through the middle of the store screaming the entire time, goes over to the counter, puts it down and sprints out the door. He came in a few minutes later with his wife or something and publicly apologized. I guess he got some valuable card, don't know what it was. They said the name but I didn't catch it. But I don't think I have ever seen anyone so happy over a game. I actually wanted to come back more often if people got that passionate.

**Stevefamine**

nareik wrote:
Adeptus Doritos wrote:
7- The guy that rags on you when you concede the game, because it is mathematically/logistically impossible for you to win. Sorry, dude- other people want to use the tables and I'm not going to spend another hour letting you blast my dudes to death when you have a 5-point lead.
In fairness, sometimes the story isn't about whether you lose, but how.

I've done the "Nearly entire army in reserve" "Pass" "Pass" and sitting in the open I was forced by a TO to play out a game. It was a comp score RTT for 40k. I was 0-3 with an extremely fluff 1500 point "One of every unit Chaos Daemons" that I just finished painting and was showing off. I asked if I could concede and give him a win and grab food since we skipped lunch. TO wouldn't have it, played out. Opponent wanted a serious game and I wasn't feeling it. Burned an hour trying to get my army killed and had a few laughs.

**jreilly89**

BigWaaagh wrote:
The guy that puts his food and gak all over the table top while playing

I'm actually guilty of this (due to working until 4 P.M., seeing my family for 45 minutes, and then grabbing Taco Bell or something for a game at 5). However, I always try to be respectful and orderly when eating, at least trying to finish while my buddy sets up terrain.

**timetowaste85**

Stevefamine wrote:
nareik wrote:
Adeptus Doritos wrote:
7- The guy that rags on you when you concede the game, because it is mathematically/logistically impossible for you to win. Sorry, dude- other people want to use the tables and I'm not going to spend another hour letting you blast my dudes to death when you have a 5-point lead.
In fairness, sometimes the story isn't about whether you lose, but how.

I've done the "Nearly entire army in reserve" "Pass" "Pass" and sitting in the open I was forced by a TO to play out a game. It was a comp score RTT for 40k. I was 0-3 with an extremely fluff 1500 point "One of every unit Chaos Daemons" that I just finished painting and was showing off. I asked if I could concede and give him a win and grab food since we skipped lunch. TO wouldn't have it, played out. Opponent wanted a serious game and I wasn't feeling it. Burned an hour trying to get my army killed and had a few laughs.

I had a game in 5th with Blood Angels where my entire army except one assault squad started in reserve. I hid them and my opponent couldn't see or touch them. Nothing wanted to come in from reserve. He just kind of stood there until my stuff did arrive...then just gummed up his objective while I sat my AMs on the one they had. I won, and he did nothing. Boring and crap game for both of us. It was a tourney too. I apologized over and over again, cuz there was no fun to be had that game. His only way of getting across the board did get blown up turn one to a suicide sternguard squad in a forced drop pod.

**cuda1179**

I had a game once where one of the pieces of terrain was a very tall pillar with a small flat area on top, just large enough for one model. An objective marker got placed up there, and a vindicare assassin got deployed on it. Since there was no way to move up there (got to stay one inch away), no way to assault him, and my opponent's long range weapons got nuked early on, the assassin was basically untouchable. I definitely felt like TFG for that game.

**HunterEste**

Adeptus Doritos wrote:
So, all of these are actual people I've had to deal with in the last 2/3 years, and a few from long before.

1- The guy that brings his Warhound Titan to the store, and sits it down in front of him and gloats that no one has 'the balls' to go up against him. Sorry, Jack- the rest of us would rather throw money into an army so we can find people who will play a game with us.

2- The guy that doesn't shower/bathe. I've said it a thousand times: If you find yourself wondering if you should take a shower, the answer is: WASH YOUR ASS.

3- The Proxy-Master that doesn't WYSIWYG at all. Sorry, I can't remember which one of these armless torsos is supposed to be the guy with a heavy bolter and I'm not going to just let you dictate that once you start taking casualties. Go get some glue and bits or borrow a model.

4- The guy that doesn't play 40k any more, shows up to talk about how much he hates 40k now, and generally spends no money or does nothing but gripe.

5- The kid born in 1997 that talks about how 'awesome' squats were.

6- The Crusader for the Autistic guy. Look, I have zero problems with the Autistic Guy, it's not his fault, and I don't ridicule him. But I'm not going to play with someone that punches themselves in the head and starts screaming over a bad dice roll, and I'm not going to have some guy telling me how I should feel bad for the Autistic Guy and play with him. It's pretty hard to guilt-trip me, and my personal comfort comes first.

7- The guy that rags on you when you concede the game, because it is mathematically/logistically impossible for you to win. Sorry, dude- other people want to use the tables and I'm not going to spend another hour letting you blast my dudes to death when you have a 5-point lead.

8- The guy that doesn't have a Codex (in any shape, form, or fashion) but wants to play against you. No.

10- The Guy that paid double for a professionally painted army, because he can't paint- and talks trash about how bad other peoples' armies look.

A few years ago, during the MTG pre-release for "Battle for Zendikar", I encountered my first "That Guy".

We'd just finished creating our decks from our pre-release packs and gotten our first match opponents. I quickly found my seat and waited for the person I was to play against. Slowly, from the corner of my eye, I saw him approach.

Off-white plain T-Shirt with yellowed pit stains and some holes, tucked into tight sweatpants over a massive belly, sandals which displayed unkempt toenails and far too much hair for any one man's toes. Crowning his head were a few wisps of greasy hair.

He sat upon his chair, there was an audible creak as the poor piece of furniture threatened to give way beneath him. The smell that oozed from his massive frame was a mix between urine, old milk, and lunch meat.

Along with his deck, he bore a footlong sandwich from subway which he proceeded to eat while we played, I do not believe I've ever seen so much mayonnaise on a single lunch item before...

He gazed at me, with a look of boredom and tiredness. I tried to introduce myself, he replied with a "yeah, ok".
Every time I would explain what I was doing on my turn he would respond with "yeah, that's the way things work"
Each time the turn passed, gas also was passed, the odor of sour milk got worse, and worse with each turn.

I was actually thankful when the round was over, I was half-tempted to scoop early, because the smell was making me ill. I offered the traditional, "thanks for the game!", was was met with a blank stare as he slowly lumbered away to his next victim....a poor gal whose chest he just stared at.

I never did see that mythical creature again, I can only assume he was called home to papa nurgle's side.

**BrotherGecko**

HunterEste wrote:
Adeptus Doritos wrote:
So, all of these are actual people I've had to deal with in the last 2/3 years, and a few from long before.

1- The guy that brings his Warhound Titan to the store, and sits it down in front of him and gloats that no one has 'the balls' to go up against him. Sorry, Jack- the rest of us would rather throw money into an army so we can find people who will play a game with us.

2- The guy that doesn't shower/bathe. I've said it a thousand times: If you find yourself wondering if you should take a shower, the answer is: WASH YOUR ASS.

3- The Proxy-Master that doesn't WYSIWYG at all. Sorry, I can't remember which one of these armless torsos is supposed to be the guy with a heavy bolter and I'm not going to just let you dictate that once you start taking casualties. Go get some glue and bits or borrow a model.

4- The guy that doesn't play 40k any more, shows up to talk about how much he hates 40k now, and generally spends no money or does nothing but gripe.

5- The kid born in 1997 that talks about how 'awesome' squats were.

6- The Crusader for the Autistic guy. Look, I have zero problems with the Autistic Guy, it's not his fault, and I don't ridicule him. But I'm not going to play with someone that punches themselves in the head and starts screaming over a bad dice roll, and I'm not going to have some guy telling me how I should feel bad for the Autistic Guy and play with him. It's pretty hard to guilt-trip me, and my personal comfort comes first.

7- The guy that rags on you when you concede the game, because it is mathematically/logistically impossible for you to win. Sorry, dude- other people want to use the tables and I'm not going to spend another hour letting you blast my dudes to death when you have a 5-point lead.

8- The guy that doesn't have a Codex (in any shape, form, or fashion) but wants to play against you. No.

10- The Guy that paid double for a professionally painted army, because he can't paint- and talks trash about how bad other peoples' armies look.

A few years ago, during the MTG pre-release for "Battle for Zendikar", I encountered my first "That Guy".

We'd just finished creating our decks from our pre-release packs and gotten our first match opponents. I quickly found my seat and waited for the person I was to play against. Slowly, from the corner of my eye, I saw him approach.

Off-white plain T-Shirt with yellowed pit stains and some holes, tucked into tight sweatpants over a massive belly, sandals which displayed unkempt toenails and far too much hair for any one man's toes. Crowning his head were a few wisps of greasy hair.

He sat upon his chair, there was an audible creak as the poor piece of furniture threatened to give way beneath him. The smell that oozed from his massive frame was a mix between urine, old milk, and lunch meat.

Along with his deck, he bore a footlong sandwich from subway which he proceeded to eat while we played, I do not believe I've ever seen so much mayonnaise on a single lunch item before...

He gazed at me, with a look of boredom and tiredness. I tried to introduce myself, he replied with a "yeah, ok".
Every time I would explain what I was doing on my turn he would respond with "yeah, that's the way things work"
Each time the turn passed, gas also was passed, the odor of sour milk got worse, and worse with each turn.

I was actually thankful when the round was over, I was half-tempted to scoop early, because the smell was making me ill. I offered the traditional, "thanks for the game!", was was met with a blank stare as he slowly lumbered away to his next victim....a poor gal whose chest he just stared at.

I never did see that mythical creature again, I can only assume he was called home to papa nurgle's side.

Spoiler:

Artist rendition of the game. Had you only realized that you had no nose.

**HunterEste**

BrotherGecko wrote:

Spoiler:

Artist rendition of the game. Had you only realized that you had no nose.

Hah! That's perfect!

**Humble Guardsman**

I know other folks here will disagree, but I'm not a fan of competitive lists. In a tournament, or practising for one, that's excellent. Power to you. But if you rock up with an ultra-cheesy list looking to grind down a newbie stranger with their Dark Vengeance set, you are kind of a

. I won't whinge or moan during the match, I just simply won't play you. I don't see the point in playing that kind of unbalanced game. Hell, I feel guilty about taking a Vendetta when so few people in our area have flyers or anti-air of their own.

We used to have one guy that would wait until opponent wrote up a list, or already had a pre-written one, and then write up his own to specifically counter it. Other than that the folks in my area are generally good people, at least the ones I play regularly with. I do kind of wish some of the guys in my local store weren't so... cringe? There's no need to speak that loud indoors, and no need to go dead silent or stare awkwardly when a female enters the room. Good god, men. Have you never seen a woman before?

kronk wrote:

Meaningless post is meaningless. No one does this. People measure from the edge of the board as it's straight and a fixed edge. No one actually looks for the much more nebulous middle of the board and measures back to find the 12" point and then deploys. At best, we'll measure the length of the table and subtract any loss from the deployment zone. Thanks for posting, I guess.

I do this. The boards at our FLGS are a little thinner than most so to ensure we don't have first turn assaults and other munchkinry that is fully possible with less than 24" gaps, we mark out a line in the middle then measure 12 each way to the deployment zones. We usually use dice or somesuch to act as an indicator. Deployment zones are a little more cramped but it works.

It's not exactly difficult, you just measure the board width and then halve that.

cuda1179 wrote:
I had a guy (4th edition 40k) rage quit a game. In my turn I wanted to shoot my Necron Warriors into his Bloodletters. He decided they were more than 12 inches away, so I only got one shot. On his turn he moved, then tried to assault me, claiming he was just in range.

Now, how they can be more than 12 inches apart in my turn, but less than 12 in his turn is an amazement. I called this out to him, and he had the audacity to call a judge over. He promptly packed up his things as "he was getting cheated".

I've had this happen to me. I was more entertained by their mental gymnastics than being genuinely outraged. In my Following turn I made sure to move up the unit that would have been charged so as to be as close as legally possible, just off 1" away, to his would-be charging unit by the time my assault phase came around. I leaned in and scrutinised the two units for a moment, looked up at him and said "Do you reckon they are in range?"

God bless him he actually checked.

**nareik**

I saw a mechanic walking out of GW with a box of toy soldiers in hand.

He was also on his phone to a customer telling them their car isn't too bad but they would need a little extra work done.

I wonder if he was 'that guy' and was upselling an unnecessary service so he would have the spare dosh to get some more space soldiers?!

**kronk**

nareik wrote:
I saw a mechanic walking out of GW with a box of toy soldiers in hand.

He was also on his phone to a customer telling them their car isn't too bad but they would need a little extra work done.

I wonder if he was 'that guy' and was upselling an unnecessary service so he would have the spare dosh to get some more space soldiers?!

Oh snap! I just spent $100 more than I meant to! "Hey John, your car needs 2 gallons of left blinker fluid. Uh huh. It's super expensive and rare, but I have some. No worries, I got your back." Whew. That was close!

**A Town Called Malus**

kronk wrote:
nareik wrote:
I saw a mechanic walking out of GW with a box of toy soldiers in hand.

He was also on his phone to a customer telling them their car isn't too bad but they would need a little extra work done.

I wonder if he was 'that guy' and was upselling an unnecessary service so he would have the spare dosh to get some more space soldiers?!

Oh snap! I just spent $100 more than I meant to! "Hey John, your car needs 2 gallons of left blinker fluid. Uh huh. It's super expensive and rare, but I have some. No worries, I got your back." Whew. That was close!

Hey... those new Tau battlesuits are pretty shiny... "Dave? Yeah I'm afraid you have a problem with both phalanges. Uh-huh, yeah, I know. Well luckily I know a guy who can get them direct from the factory. Mhmm, no problem buddy."

**AndrewGPaul**

kronk wrote:
He'd rub his hand that was WAY in his pocket.

"feth off, we're playing a game", said Kronk, and he left my table alone. We told the owner about him, and he said "yeah, that guy is creepy. He buys a lot, though." Dude was arrested for trying to solicit sex from a teen boy at the store some months later and the dad called the cops on him.

At that point, I'd add the store owner to the "That Guy" list.

I've thankfully not encountered too many of Those Guys, but there was one guy we used to game with who was incapable of playing straight, I think; he'd move models an extra inch, "forget" his army list, roll dice of the table, not mark damage on stat cards, etc. If you knew him it was OK - we all knew to point out "Oh, I think you've moved that model too far" and the like, but in retrospect, it was a bit shameful.

**kronk**

AndrewGPaul wrote:
kronk wrote:
He'd rub his hand that was WAY in his pocket.

"feth off, we're playing a game", said Kronk, and he left my table alone. We told the owner about him, and he said "yeah, that guy is creepy. He buys a lot, though." Dude was arrested for trying to solicit sex from a teen boy at the store some months later and the dad called the cops on him.

At that point, I'd add the store owner to the "That Guy" list.

I did, too.

**hotsauceman1**

I got one,
The Judge that is very bad, very few like, and is horrible......Ok not weird....
And Threatens suicide if he is no longer judge because it is his only will to function.

**Talizvar**

hotsauceman1 wrote:
I got one,
The Judge that is very bad, very few like, and is horrible......Ok not weird....
And Threatens suicide if he is no longer judge because it is his only will to function.

Only response:
"I can tell you are really upset right now, and I want to help, but it will probably be best you not be judge due to the pressures involved."
"I don’t want you to be judge just because I am afraid of you dying and you think you can’t live without it."
"The position should be based on mutual love for the game, not threats."
"I am sorry you feel that way, but I can’t stop you from making this choice, even though I wish I could."
This is both somewhat a serious response and a slight mockery because wow, life is hard if you want to be a judge for a game to the point of suicide.

**MechaEmperor7000**

hotsauceman1 wrote:
I got one,
The Judge that is very bad, very few like, and is horrible......Ok not weird....
And Threatens suicide if he is no longer judge because it is his only will to function.

See if anyone ever blurted this out to me I would pull up a chair, grab some crisps, and tell him "I'm silently judging you."

I have seen enough actual suicides in my life that I am fully out of tosses to give to people who threatens it for silly reasons.

**LordofHats**

If I might offer a Magic the Gathering example, I was playing a game of Highlander Elder Dragon/Commander with three other people a few weeks ago, and one guy asked if it was alright if he used some proxies and we were like that's fine. Its Commander. Getting the physical cards to actually fill out a working deck is expensive.

Of course none of us thought that "some proxies" meant "I copied a tournament deck and proxied nearly everything that isn't a common." Needless to say he didn't last long when he got grudged out of the game which to his credit he was a good sport about.

MechaEmperor7000 wrote:Whatever floats your boat, but I personally find that kind of precise measurement to be tedious and frustrating.

I once played a MTG match with someone who insisted I call out the start and end of every phase as well as every step. He's technically not wrong for requesting me to do so, but it made the game incredibly unfun when he would admonish me for not saying "I started my turn, Entering Draw Phase, Drawing a Card" when I drew a card on reflex after he ended his turn.

I hate this as well. Usually if I'm doing something goofy, I'll wait until I know the phase I want has just ended and say "before you start your end step I will X" and I can't say I've ever had issues with that. It's the most practical way as far as I can tell to do some of the more sly moves in Magic.

**Compel**

Most of my truly awful 'that guy' experiences have been from either GW managers or staff that I've had the misfortune to play with.

I've got to say that, I'm not the only one who has read through this thread questioning, "that could be me, right?"