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Better quality pictures

That paint scheme is doing no favours - looks an interesting group - bats a surprise

I wonder if the paint is just a dose of Contrasts with little or no extra?

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
I wonder if the paint is just a dose of Contrasts with little or no extra?

No, contrast would look much much worse. It looks like it is just a flat coat of whatever green that is.

 Gallahad wrote:

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
I wonder if the paint is just a dose of Contrasts with little or no extra?

No, contrast would look much much worse. It looks like it is just a flat coat of whatever green that is.

Maybe stop doing contrast wrong and you won't have such problems?

Anyways, it's not even a green. It's Ionrach Flesh, washed with Athonian Camoshade and picked out with Deepkin Flesh. They've shown the step by steps on it in the past.

They looks pretty cool, particularly the one with bone armor. The paint job looks pretty awful.

That is definitely not contrast, the skin is way too flat. I've painted with a bit of Contrast, and even a single coat of Contrast properly applied looks much better than that skin.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
I wonder if the paint is just a dose of Contrasts with little or no extra?

Based on a lot of GW 'eavy metal painting guide (from WD, instagram, and masterclass) they probably don't, they almost always use mixed paint and minimize the use of GW shade or glaze, they usually make their own shade and glaze.

why is the bone of the wolverine looking ghoul painted in silver?

 streetsamurai wrote:
why is the bone of the wolverine looking ghoul painted in silver?

It's Adamantium.

Chopstick wrote:

 streetsamurai wrote:
why is the bone of the wolverine looking ghoul painted in silver?

It's Adamantium.

A fine looking warband. Nothing especially stand out about it though. Of the 3 death related warbands so far, the skeletons still remain the most striking in my eyes.
The large axe the leader is holding is very nice, although it doesn't seem like a very ghoulish weapon to me. The bone, the hooks, sure. Big executioner axe, not so much.

The ghouls don't think they're ghouls. They believe themselves to be crusading knights, peasants, etc.

The halberd works perfectly, IMO.

Thanks for the pictures.

Not quite what I had hoped them to be, but fairly nice overall. Had some of the current plastics fresh on sprue (of which I'm not a fan, but got them in a big lot second hand) which I was planning to incorporate in a Mordheim warband, but some of these might be used instead. The foraging one certainly. At least if the separate warbands won't get a price increase.

Big fan. Leaning much more towards the ghouls prior to the current plastic kit while not abandoning those later design cues.

Not sure what the issue with the paint is? It;s not the most inspiring scheme and it's certainly less high contrast than we might be used to from GW, but I actually prefer the more subtle shading and highlighting on natural material like skin.

Part of my issue with the paint is how clean it looks. Ghouls (eaters of the dead and living alike) should never look that clean.

Yeah not so much a fan of these. Plus the loincloth on the ghoul with the beard looks waaaay too much like hair to me. So far season 3 has been pretty hit or miss for me.

Those are some of the best looking Ghoul models GW have ever produced. The current range look awful, the previous metal range had a very nice look (well, as much as Ghouls can look nice). They seem to take a lot of inspiration from the Decent film that came out way back in 08'.

The bats really are a surprise, I wonder if the leader can summon a swarm of bats as an action.

Also the Ghoul with the long hair drapped over the face is I am guessing a spell caster.

Beastgrave Warbands so far are shaping up to really look suited to the realm of beasts.

Looks nice. I can find a use for these guys. Can't wait to see them in not green.

I like that they're able to walk upright like the old metals again. Between this and the goblins it's good to see GW offering some classic looks instead of going full AoS on everything.

 Sabotage! wrote:
Part of my issue with the paint is how clean it looks. Ghouls (eaters of the dead and living alike) should never look that clean.

You won't get anything like that from 'Eavy Metal unfortunately. Their models are specifically painted to highlight every little detail to help sell the models.

I don't much care for that approach as it makes some models/armies look worse than they actually are, but I guess it does have its upsides. I think GW should regularly feature pictures of models painted by their army painting team in preview articles. Unlike 'Eavy Metal those guys seem to be free to catch the mood of a faction in their paint jobs. And it's not like GW has limited space in their community articles, so they can just have both of them side by side.

Anyway, my issue with them is that they're green. But I had that ever since GW started painting their Ghouls green. For whatever reason. Did GW ever remark on why they thought Ghouls needed to be green? I don't think they were prior to the plastic regiment's release.

Armoured one looks cool.

 Kanluwen wrote:
The ghouls don't think they're ghouls. They believe themselves to be crusading knights, peasants, etc.

The halberd works perfectly, IMO.

Is that a piece of AOS lore? Because i'm not familiar with that at all to be honest.

 Snrub wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
The ghouls don't think they're ghouls. They believe themselves to be crusading knights, peasants, etc.

The halberd works perfectly, IMO.

Is that a piece of AOS lore? Because i'm not familiar with that at all to be honest.

Indeed it is! They suffer from a curse that Nagash placed upon them.

It's actually one of the more interesting things about the Flesh Eater Courts now. Highly suggest reading their fluff.

 Snrub wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
The ghouls don't think they're ghouls. They believe themselves to be crusading knights, peasants, etc.

The halberd works perfectly, IMO.

Is that a piece of AOS lore? Because i'm not familiar with that at all to be honest.

Yes, that's the Flesheater Courts background in a nutshell. Ghoul Kings are cursed with an infectious delusion that has them believe they are nobles ruling over a knightly court. Their Ghoul followers share this illusion and form the knights and armsmen of the court. The latest battletome suggests that even their enemies, if subjected long enough to the presence of the Ghoul King if I recall, will start seeing glimpses of the shared delusion.

Yeah it's real cool.
The most interesting is that it isn't a full delusion, they can see their own reflections and dont register them as themselves, always thinking it is a monster.

It's an interresting idea of fluff but to me it really feels tacked on as it's not reflected on the minis who still look like "classic" non-delusional ghouls.

Samko wrote:
It's an interresting idea of fluff but to me it really feels tacked on as it's not reflected on the minis who still look like "classic" non-delusional ghouls.

Well, yeah?

The faction is still a bunch of ghouls. They're just crazy. What do you really expect them to do, make them a half/half model?

 Kanluwen wrote:

Samko wrote:
It's an interresting idea of fluff but to me it really feels tacked on as it's not reflected on the minis who still look like "classic" non-delusional ghouls.

Well, yeah?

The faction is still a bunch of ghouls. They're just crazy. What do you really expect them to do, make them a half/half model?

This is a visual game, you need to communicate the idea visually somehow. They could have tattered pieces of lively and banners,, great helm ornaments built out of trash and bones, stick-horses etc.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Samko wrote:
It's an interresting idea of fluff but to me it really feels tacked on as it's not reflected on the minis who still look like "classic" non-delusional ghouls.

Well, yeah?

The faction is still a bunch of ghouls. They're just crazy. What do you really expect them to do, make them a half/half model?

I would expect them to have a more "civilized" posture and makeshift equipement to represent that they try to act or think they act like knights.

For example the ghoul king could be standing uprigh pointing his weapon forward to inspire the charge of his men, but his sword would just be a big bone with with a smaller one tied on as hand-guard, his cape would be rags crudely sewn together, his breastplate a ribcage and his helmet a beast skull with weaved roots on it as a crown.

Without representation on the minis it feels more like head-canon :
"-My ghouls thinks they are knight who figth monster"
"-Cool ! My stormcast are very devoted so they fight while chanting prayers until their last breath"


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 Crimson wrote:
This is a visual game, you need to communicate the idea visually somehow. They could have tattered pieces of lively and banners,, great helm ornaments built out of trash and bones, stick-horses etc.

Oh, I like the stick-horses idea

I'm not a huge fan of them, to be honest.
They're not bad models, but there's nothing super special about them.

They don't look as close to the traditional ghouls as I had expected, which hopefully means they'll get an update. But if we do get new ghouls, I don't think these guys will stand out in an army. They don't even have that great of scenic bases, which is something underworld models usually have done pretty well.

At least it looks like FEC will get bat swarms or something, eventually

Well, to be perfectly honest, it's just a tacked-on fiction to an already existing model line, rather than models designed to convey the fiction.

The latter is where the visuals would really make the army unique, with horrid analogies of banners, armored horses, knightly/men at arms swords and halberds made of bones, etc.

The current Ghoul fiction is some of the most inventive fluff of AoS, applied in the laziest way. Done the right way we could have had a sweet army that is like sadistic version of Brettonians.

Samko wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

Samko wrote:
It's an interresting idea of fluff but to me it really feels tacked on as it's not reflected on the minis who still look like "classic" non-delusional ghouls.

Well, yeah?

The faction is still a bunch of ghouls. They're just crazy. What do you really expect them to do, make them a half/half model?

I would expect them to have a more "civilized" posture and makeshift equipement to represent that they try to act or think they act like knights.

For example the ghoul king could be standing uprigh pointing his weapon forward to inspire the charge of his men, but his sword would just be a big bone with with a smaller one tied on as hand-guard, his cape would be rags crudely sewn together, his breastplate a ribcage and his helmet a beast skull with weaved roots on it as a crown.

Without representation on the minis it feels more like head-canon :
"-My ghouls thinks they are knight who figth monster"
"-Cool ! My stormcast are very devoted so they fight while chanting prayers until their last breath"


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 Crimson wrote:
This is a visual game, you need to communicate the idea visually somehow. They could have tattered pieces of lively and banners,, great helm ornaments built out of trash and bones, stick-horses etc.

Oh, I like the stick-horses idea

Not my image, found it on pinterest:

 AegisGrimm wrote:
Well, to be perfectly honest, it's just a tacked-on fiction to an already existing model line, rather than models designed to convey the fiction.

The latter is where the visuals would really make the army unique, with horrid analogies of banners, armored horses, knightly/men at arms swords and halberds made of bones, etc.

The current Ghoul fiction is some of the most inventive fluff of AoS, applied in the laziest way. Done the right way we could have had a sweet army that is like sadistic version of Brettonians.

Yes, but these are brand new models yet the visuals still aren't there.