Sarigar wrote:
I remember playing against so many folks who forget which units suffered 25% casualties for morale purposes. Soon, we will need to track how many models were removed from a unit each turn for morale purposes. I am curious about how well this mechanic will play.

 Sarigar wrote:
I remember playing against so many folks who forget which units suffered 25% casualties for morale purposes. Soon, we will need to track how many models were removed from a unit each turn for morale purposes. I am curious about how well this mechanic will play.

Warhams-77 wrote:
Regarding the Warzone Armageddon news posted on WarCom a few days ago

Since the warp rift tore through the heart of the galaxy, Armageddon has found itself directly in the path of The Blood Crusade, a vast legion of Khorne’s Daemons pouring into realspace.

The world looks set for one of the greatest wars in Imperial history. Greenskin, human and followers of the Blood God – all have unfinished business on the ash wastes of Armageddon, and only time will tell which force will triumph…

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/04/29/new-warhammer-40000-war-zone-armageddon/


I scanned the story of the 1st Battle for Armageddon in Codex: Chaos (2nd Edition) and if they will go a similiar route like with Magnus and his revenge there is definitely a good chance Angron will return to Armageddon in that upcoming campaign

Spoiler:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Angry Ron! Angry Ron! Angry Ron! Angry Ron!

HE IS THE ANGRIEST OF ALL RONALDS!

Spoiler:

Vorian wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:
Question to all:

So now that GW is engaging with us and releasing hints, articles and the like - is it making things better or worse.

Better, the people that just want to moan and complain would be moaning and complaining no matter what.

Then Russ dropped his drinking horn on the board and then started to speak not to his warriors, but to himself or to some presence that was unseen. “It remains unfinished… I have waited for too long, building this mountain squabbling with Gulliman, I will not grow old, feeble, limping around a crumbling inheritance, I have and Oath to keep there are beasts left to slay.” At this point Russ where fully immersed in his premonitions and he looked around the room a smile dancing on his fanged face, seeing thing from either long ago or yet to come. “Listen by closely my brothers, there shall come a time far from now, where the chapter itself is dying and our foes shall gather to destroy us.” “Then my sons I shall listen for your call, in whatever realm holds me and come I shall, no matter what the laws of life and death forbid.” “At the end I will be there for the final battle FOR THE WOLF TIME!”

Lexicanum wrote:Parting of the Ways is an audio drama by Chris Wraight. It was released online in October 2014.

In December 2016, it was chosen by Matt Renshaw (Black Library's audio producer) for Black Library's Hall of Fame collection.

 axisofentropy wrote:

 Sarigar wrote:
I remember playing against so many folks who forget which units suffered 25% casualties for morale purposes. Soon, we will need to track how many models were removed from a unit each turn for morale purposes. I am curious about how well this mechanic will play.

I plan to just lay them down until battle shock phase.

 Ragnar Blackmane wrote:
Sooo, considering that the red line has been crossed and Girlyman is now back and kicking and more and more Demon primarchs get thrown back into the fight, it seems rather obvious that GW will very likely bring back more loyalist primarchs to get an equal balance of power and drive the story forward. Two big candidates are Russ and good old Johnson the Lion, both of their chapters having their own product lines and being very popular, more so than the Salamanders, Raven Guard or White Scars (with the other three MIA primarchs).

So I did some reading today on 1d4chan for funs and giggles, and stumbled on this, an excerpt from the 2014 audio drama "Parting Ways", Russes speech before he left the Fang:

Then Russ dropped his drinking horn on the board and then started to speak not to his warriors, but to himself or to some presence that was unseen. “It remains unfinished… I have waited for too long, building this mountain squabbling with Gulliman, I will not grow old, feeble, limping around a crumbling inheritance, I have and Oath to keep there are beasts left to slay.” At this point Russ where fully immersed in his premonitions and he looked around the room a smile dancing on his fanged face, seeing thing from either long ago or yet to come. “Listen by closely my brothers, there shall come a time far from now, where the chapter itself is dying and our foes shall gather to destroy us.” “Then my sons I shall listen for your call, in whatever realm holds me and come I shall, no matter what the laws of life and death forbid.” “At the end I will be there for the final battle FOR THE WOLF TIME!”

What happened to the Wolves lately? Near destruction and with most of their recruitement options gone they are pretty much a dying chapter. Also Russ is dicking around somewhere in the warp and trolling the Chaos gods, so that fits the "whatever realm holds me" description as well. Magnus wrecked Fenris and Chaos is conducting a massive push into the heart of the Imperium, fitting the "foes shall gather to destroy us bit". And GW is liberally reminding us of that as well, considering the not even a week old NuMarine teaser and how Guilliman calls the Wolves as on the brink of destruction. And Russ would make for one hell of an opponent for the recently released Magnus. And he would create some much welcomed opposition to Rowboat who is currently on one hell of a power trip.

Now one could argue that's just an old Black Library Audio diary, but here comes the kicker:

Lexicanum wrote:Parting of the Ways is an audio drama by Chris Wraight. It was released online in October 2014.

In December 2016, it was chosen by Matt Renshaw (Black Library's audio producer) for Black Library's Hall of Fame collection.

Chosen for the Black Library's Hall of Fame mere months ago while the GW storywriters were already hard at work writing the future story progression? Doesn't sound like a coincidence to me.

Guess after Mortarion we might see Russ as next loyalist Primarch on the tables, maybe even this year.

Ragnar69 wrote:

Yes, Russ is the most likely loyal primarch to come next, Hastings also said this last year. But this speech of Russ was already in the 2nd edition codex

Two big candidates are Russ and good old Johnson the Lion, both of their chapters having their own product lines and being very popular, more so than the Salamanders, Raven Guard or White Scars (with the other three MIA primarchs).

 Grinshanks wrote:
So far I am still optimistic for the new ed. 8th was too much with its formations, and I am glad the storyline is moving in new ways.

The former ork player in me reels at battleshock rules, and the numarines really dont sit well, but overall it's looking like an improvement to me.

Kinda wish they'd start dropping some unit profiles/army rules now. The maim rules could be perfect, but it wouldn't mean squat to a lot of us if our models end up with awful rules!

Battle-forged armies will be familiar to Warhammer 40,000 players today – it basically means that all the models in your army are part of a Detachment or Formation.

That is still largely true in the new Warhammer 40,000, but with a few changes.

The biggest of which is… wait for it…<puff of smoke>

Formations are gone.

That’s right, no more Formations. But don’t panic!

If your army is built using Formations right now, you’re going to be fine. In their place are a dozen new game-wide Detachments that are available to all factions. These are flexible enough that all of your current forces can be fit into them to form a Battle-forged army. The advantage of these is that all factions now have an even playing field of list building mechanics, rather than some having loads and some having to stick with the trusty Combined Arms option for every game.

These detachments are made up of a combination of 9 unit types, which will look very familiar to anyone who has played Warhammer 40,000 in the past two decades. Some you’ll recognise from Space Marines company markings and the classic Combined Arms detachment of today, plus Lords of War, Fortifications and the new one – Flyers, now with their own slot.

These Detachments come with a few benefits and restrictions. The most common restriction is that all units in a single Detachment must share a faction keyword (Tyranid, Blood Angels or Imperium for example). The most common bonus is that, depending on how optimised your army is for the logistics of war, you’ll get Command Points to spend. We’ll cover exactly what these can do for you soon, but trust us when we say they are incredibly useful if used wisely, and you generally get more of them if your army is a well rounded and balanced force.

Here are a few examples:

These are just a taste of the options available.

Battle-forged armies can be used with our without points, and we fully expect gamers playing matched or narrative play games to use these in most situations as they tend to create effective armies on the tabletop that also fit the background and lore of the setting. Matched play actually has a few extra rules too, designed for competitive events, which organisers can choose to use when setting the rules for Battle-forged armies – limits on the number of separate Detachments is one example.

We’ll be back again tomorrow with more news from the new Warhammer 40,000.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

So for Guilliman, only Ultramarines could benefit from (the entirely made up) special rule Ultramarines Are The Best. Whereas the (equally entirely made up) Astartes Are Pretty Good In General Though would affect Astartes, which for the purpose of illustration each and every Space Marine unit would have as a keyword.