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 Crazyterran wrote:
All my Grey Knights being armed with Swords suddenly seems less silly...

D3 wounds at -3 ap? Niiice.

Don't forget that every squad is likely to have psychic powers and they will most likely be derived from either sanctic daemonology or the custom powers they had in 5th/6th edition. Which means a good chance of relatively easy access to a strength boost for making those swords really hurt.

 streetsamurai wrote:
I rebember in one of the Q&A, the developpers said that the days of a hail of bullets magically hitting only the guy with a stormshield were over. It doesn't seems like it is the case, since i see nothing in the current rules that prevent that from happening

How would you do that now? No characters in units and no mixed armor saves. You can avoid having a character being shot at, but now if i want to shoot at a unit, nothing will stop me.

You can still have a guy with a storm shield while the rest of the unit doesn't.

To be honest, I think that they said the days of characters doing so were over, but having the sergent being able to do so is not much better.

 streetsamurai wrote:
I rebember in one of the Q&A, the developpers said that the days of a hail of bullets magically hitting only the guy with a stormshield were over. It doesn't seems like it is the case, since i see nothing in the current rules that prevent that from happening

I think they meant by the 6 hurts everything, but you are right it's a silly comment as it will still save a hail of bullets


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My local black shirt claimed today that he still knows nothing about release dates, so either he wasn't willing to say, or next week pre-orders seems unlikely. I feel like store managers would know by this point.

 Rippy wrote:

My local black shirt claimed today that he still knows nothing about release dates, so either he wasn't willing to say, or next week pre-orders seems unlikely. I feel like store managers would know by this point.

Considering the rumoured preorder date is 3rd June, next week would be pushing it a bit, no?

Rippy, they are not allowed to say. If (IF) it will be available to preorder on the WarhammerFest weekend more likely a LFGS who will be informed on monday by GW will leak the preorder list.

I'm looking forwards to seeing how these guys are organised. I love military organisation, both real and fictional.

 streetsamurai wrote:
don't like the new wound allocations mechanic. Means that models with good weapons will always be removed last

this is bad how?

 streetsamurai wrote:
You can still have a guy with a storm shield while the rest of the unit doesn't.

To be honest, I think that they said the days of characters doing so were over, but having the sergent being able to do so is not much better.

Except that said shield would block absolutely nothing. You first save then allocate wounds, that shield on a single model is useless.

 streetsamurai wrote:
You can still have a guy with a storm shield while the rest of the unit doesn't.

To be honest, I think that they said the days of characters doing so were over, but having the sergent being able to do so is not much better.

We don't know if a stormshield is just a 2+ save or a 5++ invul. Either way in this edition it's not going to be the all powerful rerollable defensive item.
Sure you can throw your shots into a unit with mixed abilities still but its nowhere near what it use to be.

7E wound allocation was terrible. It created absurd situations like the prementioned character tanking all the shots, and it was really time consuming if you wanted to make sure that all your special and heavy weapons were placed for optimal protection.

Could that twitter hint be some form of Nurgle release? Are there any units that could be done or crossed over from AoS?
Seems most likely to me considering the recent plague marine rumours, Morty coming back and the possibility the box set will be SMs VS Deathguard?

Warhams-77 wrote:
Rippy, they are not allowed to say. If (IF) it will be available to preorder on the WarhammerFest weekend more likely a LFGS who will be informed on monday by GW will leak the preorder list.

Yeah fair enough, I guess I am used to my old black shirt who was honest, and said "I can't say anything" rather than"I don't know anything"

 streetsamurai wrote:
I rebember in one of the Q&A, the developpers said that the days of a hail of bullets magically hitting only the guy with a stormshield were over. It doesn't seems like it is the case, since i see nothing in the current rules that prevent that from happening

Unless you make your sergeant, who only has one wound, the guy with the storm shield HQs can join unit.

 Crimson wrote:
7E wound allocation was terrible. It created absurd situations like the prementioned character tanking all the shots, and it was really time consuming if you wanted to make sure that all your special and heavy weapons were placed for optimal protection.

I'd agree with that - and 6th Ed was just as bad with the unique equipment nonsense.

Owner Chooses is probably the least worse option, and works quite nicely with the removal of blast templates. Both reduce, if not altogether do away with, movement micro management.

Now there's nothing wrong with micro managing your movement if that's your thing, but it doesn't half slow the game down. Taking away the need and benefit of doing it ensures a smoother, better paced game.

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 mrhappyface wrote:
Warhammer TV just leaked something:
Next week we will get a model which we have not been able to play in 40k before but it isn't a new model.

AoS models in 40k?

Rapier Laser Destroyer?

We already have rules for those in 40k

I just realised that if any of the rumors come true, we will have 8th edition in less than a month.
Can't stop this hype train toot toot


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Also I am committed now, I will stay up to update OP with new community article.

Time is it over there Rippy you insomniac?

11:43PM if he's in the same timezone as me (which iirc he is).

 mrhappyface wrote:

Tygre wrote:

 mrhappyface wrote:
Warhammer TV just leaked something:
Next week we will get a model which we have not been able to play in 40k before but it isn't a new model.
AoS models in 40k?

Rapier Laser Destroyer?

We already have rules for those in 40k

Are they refering to AoS or FW?

In case of the latter, there is a bunch of units that are HH only for now. Such as large parts of AdMech and the Legio Custodes range.

The latter make sense, since Gulliman brought them along to his crusade.

I'm really curious how the 8th will treat FW units.

 Rippy wrote:
I just realised that if any of the rumors come true, we will have 8th edition in less than a month.
Can't stop this hype train toot toot


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Also I am committed now, I will stay up to update OP with new community article.

Well, some FLGS guy was saying pre-orders next weekend.

 streetsamurai wrote:
You can still have a guy with a storm shield while the rest of the unit doesn't.

To be honest, I think that they said the days of characters doing so were over, but having the sergent being able to do so is not much better.

In 4th edition, units with the same save, rolled all saves and then allocated wounds; units with mixed saves, you allocated the wounds before save, but no model could be allocated a second wound until all the models in the unit were allocated at least one.

So, if you have a 5 Terminators, taking 6 wounds from an AP -4 weapon and one of them has a storm shield, you would allocate one wound to each and then one model would be allocated a second wound. In this case you would make 5 saves at 6+ removing only non-stormshield models for failed saves and 2 more 3++ saves, but removing only the storm shield guy if both failed.

Are they refering to AoS or FW?

In case of the latter, there is a bunch of units that are HH only for now. Such as large parts of AdMech and the Legio Custodes range.

The latter make sense, since Gulliman brought them along to his crusade.

I'm really curious how the 8th will treat FW units.

I'm wondering how the Glaive's Volkite Carronade will work in 8th. Not that it will ever earn its points back, but it sure looks great.

Looks like it's narrative Stronghold Assault mission this time for the article.

Hmm...

I should buy some buildings.

Transports are on for tomorrow!

 docdoom77 wrote:
Transports are on for tomorrow!

Thank the Emperor too because the lack of info there was making me antsy. I wanna see if Rhino Rush became Rhino Crush in the new editon.

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Looks like it's narrative Stronghold Assault mission this time for the article.

It would have been better to just show us the entire dataslate for the mission.

This was a better reveal for the strategems than it was for the mission itself.

So June is a three paycheck month.....

Well played GW.....well played

I'd kinda like to know what the next faction focus is in advance, but oh well.