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 Frozocrone wrote:
So will the Imperium Index 1 factions all be allies and so on?

I hope they remove ally shenanigans in general to be honest.

You're not gonna like 8th ed then. All units within the same FoC only have to share a keyword. I.e. "Imperium". It's prefectly ok for example to have a Space Marine Commander HQ, a Imperial Guard Troops and Sisters of Battle Elites all in the same FoC.

Yo where this guy at.

Forge World rules too.

Rules for all the rest of the Warhammer 40,000 Forge World range, including the myriad xenos races of the galaxy and the massed forces of the Astra Militarum and their accompanying Imperial Agents, will all be appearing in additional Index books that set to be released before the end of June.

 Frozocrone wrote:
So will the Imperium Index 1 factions all be allies and so on?

I hope they remove ally shenanigans in general to be honest.

We know they aren't removing allies, but with Keywords being a thing buffing abilities will probably only target units with certain keywords.

So no more super-ally buff stacking hopefully.

MaxT wrote:

 Frozocrone wrote:
So will the Imperium Index 1 factions all be allies and so on?

I hope they remove ally shenanigans in general to be honest.

You're not gonna like 8th ed then. All units within the same FoC only have to share a keyword. I.e. "Imperium". It's prefectly ok for example to have a Space Marine Commander HQ, a Imperial Guard Troops and Sisters of Battle Elites all in the same FoC.

Cool, someone has the book!

How does that effect our choice of command ability or points?

It all looks fantastic except the interceptors (which could look cool with a little conversion work) and the baby faced sorcerer.
With 53 minis a full hardback book and several mini books I am scared how much this will cost.

If they sell this for standard starter set price, they will sell tens of thousands of copies, but £100 or more is a hard sell even for an amazing Box set.

Sisters not mentioned on the new Imperial covers :(

This bodes well, bundled up and thrown into the 'forgotten' bin with Imperial Agents :(

But Grey Knights/Deathwatch, they get a mention..who were also in 'Imperial Agents'.

GW clearly showing how much they give a damn about the Sister's line.

Sisters Part of Imperial agents :(

Tactical objective cards in the starer set.
So randomly drawn objectives are a high possibility then...
I actually like the new assaulties and 'hellblasters'. I'll wait to read the rules before splashing on books though.

RoninXiC wrote:
Sisters Part of Imperial agents :(

Like, in before people go 'youre getting rules like everyone else!'

Yes I know, the currently models will 'have rules.'

However, the fact that other factions (Deathwatch/GreyKnights) from Imperial Agents gets their named emblazoned on the cover, clearly shows GW don't consider Sisters to be 'a selling point' so not worth giving cover space too.

Which is an indication of how much love we can expect the line to get down the road. RIP.

Starter set retail price is 125€. Confirmed by an online shop

 Roleplayer wrote:

RoninXiC wrote:
Sisters Part of Imperial agents :(

Like, in before people go 'youre getting rules like everyone else!'

Yes I know, the currently models will 'have rules.'

However, the fact that other factions (Deathwatch/GreyKnights) from Imperial Agents gets their named emblazoned on the cover, clearly shows GW don't consider Sisters to be 'a selling point' so not worth giving cover space too.

Which is an indication of how much love we can expect the line to get down the road. RIP.

Grey Knights and Deathwatch had what, 2-4 units each in Imperial Agents?

Yeah, GK & Deathwatch both only had a few units in IA compared to their full codexes.

SoB had everything except Celestine, and that was because of the campaign books.

 Frozocrone wrote:
So will the Imperium Index 1 factions all be allies and so on?

I hope they remove ally shenanigans in general to be honest.

Allies are still in. Likely you can still ally your space marines with tyranids as well if you really feel like it.

 unmercifulconker wrote:
Yo where this guy at.

Spoiler:

Thebiggesthat wrote:

MaxT wrote:

 Frozocrone wrote:
So will the Imperium Index 1 factions all be allies and so on?

I hope they remove ally shenanigans in general to be honest.

You're not gonna like 8th ed then. All units within the same FoC only have to share a keyword. I.e. "Imperium". It's prefectly ok for example to have a Space Marine Commander HQ, a Imperial Guard Troops and Sisters of Battle Elites all in the same FoC.

Cool, someone has the book!

How does that effect our choice of command ability or points?

No book, it's been in the previews. In the previewed FoC's, all have the restriction of the same faction:



And we have examples of faction keywords, "Imperium" and "Chaos" are very high level ones:

 Garion wrote:
Starter set retail price is 125€. Confirmed by an online shop

Any info on the BRB price?

SoB are a niche faction, and are getting the coverage they should. My only issue is that GW haven't come out and said it, as it would stop the moaning once and for all.

Or, we simply don't have them at launch because they don't have the models. A redesign of the range is needed, and this would fit into GW doing a Codex further down the line.

Erghhh! I hate that the guy in the video is slavering all over GW and like "I've never seen anything like this before! ". When in the 90s the rule book often came with everything you needed including the majority of the codexs! They didn't split it up like this crap...

Not saying there isn't arguable logic behind it,

However with 'talons of the emperor' getting cover space who have what like, two units really, IMO shows that GW doesnt have any near plans for a Sisters model revamp.

If they did, they'd be positioning them a lot more prominently to keep them up front and in people's minds.

That's just my opinion tho, and nothing more. I'll end it there.

I still have all my metal models to play with, and will continue to play with (I won't be buying anything new from GW till I get plastic sisters)

 lolman1c wrote:
Erghhh! I hate that the guy in the video is slavering all over GW and like "I've never seen anything like this before! ". When in the 90s the rule book often came with everything you needed including the majority of the codexs! They didn't split it up like this crap...

"Here Sam, look suitably amazed and awestruck or you're being sacked."

Oh Gods, all the miniatures, the tactical objectives, everything about this release:



It's amazing how that tiny detail of being able to glue the helmet to their belt AND NOT LOOKING SILLY makes me SO-DAMN-HAPPY. The new Jet-packs are so good looking, I'm really a fan.

MaxT wrote:

Thebiggesthat wrote:

MaxT wrote:

 Frozocrone wrote:
So will the Imperium Index 1 factions all be allies and so on?

I hope they remove ally shenanigans in general to be honest.

You're not gonna like 8th ed then. All units within the same FoC only have to share a keyword. I.e. "Imperium". It's prefectly ok for example to have a Space Marine Commander HQ, a Imperial Guard Troops and Sisters of Battle Elites all in the same FoC.

Cool, someone has the book!

How does that effect our choice of command ability or points?

No book, it's been in the previews. In the previewed FoC's, all have the restriction of the same faction:

Spoiler:

And we have examples of faction keywords, "Imperium" and "Chaos" are very high level ones:

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

Ahh, so you are making assumptions.

in AoS,The 'ORDER' faction keyword gives you certain tables and abilities to pick from. If you want the cooler, better, more thematic bonuses, artefacts etc, you have to go for a specific faction.

SO MY ASSUMPTION is that this will be the case in 8th.

Let us see who is right

 lolman1c wrote:
Erghhh! I hate that the guy in the video is slavering all over GW and like "I've never seen anything like this before! ". When in the 90s the rule book often came with everything you needed including the majority of the codexs! They didn't split it up like this crap...

Kinda sorta, but not really... The Black codex was probably nowhere as detailed as these books are going to be, not to mention the fact that there's a lot more out there now then when 3rd came out. Also, the "often" you're using only applied to 3rd Edition.

MaxT wrote:

Thebiggesthat wrote:

MaxT wrote:

 Frozocrone wrote:
So will the Imperium Index 1 factions all be allies and so on?

I hope they remove ally shenanigans in general to be honest.

You're not gonna like 8th ed then. All units within the same FoC only have to share a keyword. I.e. "Imperium". It's prefectly ok for example to have a Space Marine Commander HQ, a Imperial Guard Troops and Sisters of Battle Elites all in the same FoC.

Cool, someone has the book!

How does that effect our choice of command ability or points?

No book, it's been in the previews. In the previewed FoC's, all have the restriction of the same faction:

Spoiler:

And we have examples of faction keywords, "Imperium" and "Chaos" are very high level ones:

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

Well...hopefully it won't be as bad as 7th or Taudar then. Because the rest of it sounds pretty dang good.

Now the big question is: will datasheets be available for download on GW website like AoS ones?

Hey, I was pretty close with my guess about how the faction books would break down! https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/1740/724069.page#9325520

 lolman1c wrote:
Erghhh! I hate that the guy in the video is slavering all over GW and like "I've never seen anything like this before! ". When in the 90s the rule book often came with everything you needed including the majority of the codexs! They didn't split it up like this crap...

They also didn't have 4 flavours of Eldar, 7 flavours of Space Marines, Necrons, Tau, Imperial Guard, Sisters of Battle, Sisters of Silence, Custodes, Inquisition, Assassins, Adeptus Mechanicus, Skitarii, Imperial Knights, Chaos Marines, Chaos Daemons, Traitor Knights, Tyranids and Genestealer cults to all fit into the one book. That's 27 individual factions so far (although as we see, the 4 Eldar and 7 Space Marine factions can be rolled together, so it's really only 16 unique factions).

 Lithlandis Stormcrow wrote:

 Garion wrote:
Starter set retail price is 125€. Confirmed by an online shop

Any info on the BRB price?

I've asked them

 Lithlandis Stormcrow wrote:

 lolman1c wrote:
Erghhh! I hate that the guy in the video is slavering all over GW and like "I've never seen anything like this before! ". When in the 90s the rule book often came with everything you needed including the majority of the codexs! They didn't split it up like this crap...

"Here Sam, look suitably amazed and awestruck or you're being sacked."

Because promotional advertisements often feature people seeming indifferent or merely okay about the product they're advertising....