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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/13 01:19:22
Subject: 40k New Edition Summary - 12th June 17: FW Xenos Datasheets/Lord Duncan assembles Primaris (in OP)
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Fixture of Dakka
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Luciferian wrote:Damn, I was really hoping the marines would have interchangeable shoulder pads. A few days ago I ordered $40 worth of Dark Angels pads 
The multipart ones will. The are monopose and so dont.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/13 01:47:45
Subject: 40k New Edition Summary - 12th June 17: FW Xenos Datasheets/Lord Duncan assembles Primaris (in OP)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Indiana
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Nothing a few minutes with some clippers can't solve!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/13 01:51:29
Subject: 40k New Edition Summary - 12th June 17: FW Xenos Datasheets/Lord Duncan assembles Primaris (in OP)
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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MajorWesJanson wrote: Luciferian wrote:Damn, I was really hoping the marines would have interchangeable shoulder pads. A few days ago I ordered $40 worth of Dark Angels pads 
The multipart ones will. The are monopose and so dont.
Good to know, now I don't have to save up my shoulderpad bits. I am still figuring on blinging out the characters at least with DA accessories, though. I wonder if I could attach the Deathwing sergeant's wings to the Primaris captain's helmet cowl to make him look more like a Company Master...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/13 02:07:43
Subject: 40k New Edition Summary - 12th June 17: FW Xenos Datasheets/Lord Duncan assembles Primaris (in OP)
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Swamp Troll
San Diego
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Do people seriously not do squash/press casting anymore?
Trying to decide if I'll be sculpting DA/BT robes on my monopose or running as more of a traditional armor + purity seals type of setup..
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/13 02:16:50
Subject: 40k New Edition Summary - 12th June 17: FW Xenos Datasheets/Lord Duncan assembles Primaris (in OP)
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
Vigo. Spain.
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MLaw wrote:Do people seriously not do squash/press casting anymore?
Trying to decide if I'll be sculpting DA/ BT robes on my monopose or running as more of a traditional armor + purity seals type of setup..
What is squash/press casting?
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Crimson Devil wrote:
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote:Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/13 02:17:28
Subject: 40k New Edition Summary - 12th June 17: FW Xenos Datasheets/Lord Duncan assembles Primaris (in OP)
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Hissing Hybrid Metamorph
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MLaw wrote:Do people seriously not do squash/press casting anymore?
Trying to decide if I'll be sculpting DA/ BT robes on my monopose or running as more of a traditional armor + purity seals type of setup..
People do, though there is many varying skill levels, and time spent in hobby as well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/13 02:27:57
Subject: 40k New Edition Summary - 12th June 17: FW Xenos Datasheets/Lord Duncan assembles Primaris (in OP)
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
On the Internet
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Galas wrote: MLaw wrote:Do people seriously not do squash/press casting anymore?
Trying to decide if I'll be sculpting DA/ BT robes on my monopose or running as more of a traditional armor + purity seals type of setup..
What is squash/press casting?
So I know it as press molding but it basically goes:
1. Get together one shoulderpad you wish to copy, some vaseline or similar substance and some GS and a stick (example: pencils, sprue, ect) and a pair of gloves.
2. Build a wad of Green Stuff on the end of your stick so that it forms a cone flared towards the bottom with at least a third to half extending past the end of the stick and set aside to stiffen slightly. Vaseline coated fingertips will keep it from sticking to the gloves.
3. Coat the surface of the shoulder pad with vaseline to prevent adhesion to the green stuff.
4. Press the flared end of the GS against the textured surface so that it completely covers the surface and leave to set.
5. After setting remove the shoulderpad and you now have a textured press mold.
6. To use the mold coat it with vaseline and then press a small amount of green stuff onto the surface of your blank shoulder pad before pressing your mold onto it. If done correctly when you remove the mold you will have a copy of your design that only needs a little cleaning o to removed the excess GS from.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/13 02:43:24
Subject: 40k New Edition Summary - 12th June 17: FW Xenos Datasheets/Lord Duncan assembles Primaris (in OP)
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Swamp Troll
San Diego
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ClockworkZion wrote: Galas wrote: MLaw wrote:Do people seriously not do squash/press casting anymore?
Trying to decide if I'll be sculpting DA/ BT robes on my monopose or running as more of a traditional armor + purity seals type of setup..
What is squash/press casting?
So I know it as press molding but it basically goes:
1. Get together one shoulderpad you wish to copy, some vaseline or similar substance and some GS and a stick (example: pencils, sprue, ect) and a pair of gloves.
2. Build a wad of Green Stuff on the end of your stick so that it forms a cone flared towards the bottom with at least a third to half extending past the end of the stick and set aside to stiffen slightly. Vaseline coated fingertips will keep it from sticking to the gloves.
3. Coat the surface of the shoulder pad with vaseline to prevent adhesion to the green stuff.
4. Press the flared end of the GS against the textured surface so that it completely covers the surface and leave to set.
5. After setting remove the shoulderpad and you now have a textured press mold.
6. To use the mold coat it with vaseline and then press a small amount of green stuff onto the surface of your blank shoulder pad before pressing your mold onto it. If done correctly when you remove the mold you will have a copy of your design that only needs a little cleaning o to removed the excess GS from.
Basically this but be careful how much vaseline you use.. I might go with baby oil/mineral oil.. but the idea is exactly right. You don't "need" to attach a stick.. but it can make life easier. I do this for purity seals, shoulder pads, some vehicle details.. Anything that you're going to want a few more of and it's really just a very basic shape.
When I press it onto the blank pad I make sure I have just enough that a little GS squishes out the side of the mold. You can let it set with the mold on as long as you lubed it. If the piece hardens and it isn't lined up properly you can peel it off carefully with a x-acto and glue it back on in the correct position. If you mix a tiny bit of FIMO or Sculpey into the GS it will be much much more pliable/mold-friendly. Back in the day, if you got a pewter marine of any kind, they usually had molded on pads and this was one of two ways to get the emblems on. The other was to buy the pewter pads with the emblems.. then cut the pad off and sand it down.. that .. was not fun..
Anyone trying to figure this out but not quite getting it.. check youtube.. I'm sure there are videos on it.. then if you still have questions shoot a PM and I'll try to help. There's literally no reason you guys/gals can't have chapter icons on your Primaris if you're willing to give this a shot.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/13 02:52:12
Subject: 40k New Edition Summary - 12th June 17: FW Xenos Datasheets/Lord Duncan assembles Primaris (in OP)
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
On the Internet
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Sticks were the method I learned because it made it easier to hold and press securely.
Baby oil is good for the molds as it is thinner, but I still recommend vaseline for fingers and tools when working as it doesn't run.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/13 04:35:27
Subject: 40k New Edition Summary - 12th June 17: FW Xenos Datasheets/Lord Duncan assembles Primaris (in OP)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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MLaw wrote:Do people seriously not do squash/press casting anymore?
Trying to decide if I'll be sculpting DA/ BT robes on my monopose or running as more of a traditional armor + purity seals type of setup..
You probably paint all your stuff, too.
On topic, the jump troops flying base makes me iffy on whether I want those guys.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/13 04:56:47
Subject: 40k New Edition Summary - 12th June 17: FW Xenos Datasheets/Lord Duncan assembles Primaris (in OP)
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Swamp Troll
San Diego
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privateer4hire wrote: MLaw wrote:Do people seriously not do squash/press casting anymore?
Trying to decide if I'll be sculpting DA/ BT robes on my monopose or running as more of a traditional armor + purity seals type of setup..
You probably paint all your stuff, too.
On topic, the jump troops flying base makes me iffy on whether I want those guys.
just pin them.. you can notch the clear plastic to create a spot for the pin vise and it really won't be noticeable..
and.. no.. I only paint stuff I really like or if I'm going to a tournament..
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/13 04:59:31
Subject: 40k New Edition Summary - 12th June 17: FW Xenos Datasheets/Lord Duncan assembles Primaris (in OP)
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Ship's Officer
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privateer4hire wrote: MLaw wrote:Do people seriously not do squash/press casting anymore?
Trying to decide if I'll be sculpting DA/ BT robes on my monopose or running as more of a traditional armor + purity seals type of setup..
You probably paint all your stuff, too.
On topic, the jump troops flying base makes me iffy on whether I want those guys.
Yeah I was watching a youtube video on that. The way the stand joins to the models jetpack is dodgy. Doesn't look like it will handle even a slight fall. Let alone being transported multiple times. Also you don't want to paint the model with it glued on or spray prime it. So glueing the stand on should be the last step and be done with a tiny amount of superglue. Superglue is also wonky cause it could blemish the paintjob, and taint the clarity of the clear stand. Also the base of the clear plastic should be glued towards the end/back of the actual 40mm or whatever base. Otherwise the model will be overhanging the lip of the base and be less stable.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/13 05:05:37
Subject: 40k New Edition Summary - 12th June 17: FW Xenos Datasheets/Lord Duncan assembles Primaris (in OP)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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If I do get primaris jump guys, I'll probably do my usual and glue them feet-to-base for better stability.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/13 05:36:58
Subject: 40k New Edition Summary - 12th June 17: FW Xenos Datasheets/Lord Duncan assembles Primaris (in OP)
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Swamp Troll
San Diego
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privateer4hire wrote:If I do get primaris jump guys, I'll probably do my usual and glue them feet-to-base for better stability.
You can also put pieces of ruined building from a Imperial Sector or .. really whatever you want.. and pin them to that like they're flying through the rubble or something.. it's what I've done with my Crisis Suits and adds a nice effect and the pinning is in the foot.. OR.. you could buy those cinematic jet thrust plumes and attach those to the base.. 100% stable. There's loads of options.. but I agree with the consensus that those flight stands are dodgy looking..
BUT..
are we going to suddenly pretend that flight stands haven't been crappy for a long time? I can't tell you how many I've had snap off inside the hole and I've had to drill the damn thing out and either pin the stump of a stand or pray to bitsboxjesus that I can find a flight stand in the rubbermaid container full of bases I have..
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/13 06:36:08
Subject: 40k New Edition Summary - 12th June 17: FW Xenos Datasheets/Lord Duncan assembles Primaris (in OP)
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Stealthy Space Wolves Scout
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It can't be worse than a metal landspeeder on a flying base
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/13 06:43:34
Subject: 40k New Edition Summary - 12th June 17: FW Xenos Datasheets/Lord Duncan assembles Primaris (in OP)
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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Metal deffkoptas...
Metal Gargoyles :(
*starts having bad flashbacks *
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The Viletide: Daemons of Nurgle/Deathguard: 7400 pts
Disclples of the Dragon - Ad Mech - about 2000 pts
GSC - about 2000 Pts
Rhulic Mercs - um...many...
Circle Oroboros - 300 Pts or so
Menoth - 300+ pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/13 07:14:00
Subject: Re:40k New Edition Summary - 12th June 17: FW Xenos Datasheets/Lord Duncan assembles Primaris (in OP)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Someone with the WD can said if this is a new daemon prince of nurgle (next to guili)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/13 07:15:41
Subject: 40k New Edition Summary - 12th June 17: FW Xenos Datasheets/Lord Duncan assembles Primaris (in OP)
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Hissing Hybrid Metamorph
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Hard to tell but looks like the old CSM one
Edit: zoomed out, I retract that statement
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2017/06/13 07:16:29
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/13 07:28:35
Subject: 40k New Edition Summary - 12th June 17: FW Xenos Datasheets/Lord Duncan assembles Primaris (in OP)
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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Does look a lot like the plastic one.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/13 07:39:00
Subject: Re:40k New Edition Summary - 12th June 17: FW Xenos Datasheets/Lord Duncan assembles Primaris (in OP)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Just so I know I'm not loosing my mind, has anyone else noticed the lack of a Mega Dred profile in the contents list for Index: Xenos? I'll be very disappointed if I can't use my first large Forgeworld model in my games going forward
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/13 08:08:08
Subject: Re:40k New Edition Summary - 12th June 17: FW Xenos Datasheets/Lord Duncan assembles Primaris (in OP)
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Swamp Troll
San Diego
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warl0rdb0b wrote:Just so I know I'm not loosing my mind, has anyone else noticed the lack of a Mega Dred profile in the contents list for Index: Xenos? I'll be very disappointed if I can't use my first large Forgeworld model in my games going forward
I believe that's now Mecha Dredd isn't it?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/13 08:15:09
Subject: 40k New Edition Summary - 12th June 17: FW Xenos Datasheets/Lord Duncan assembles Primaris (in OP)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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No, they're 2 different units, the Mega Dred gets the kannon and saw options, neither of which are listed on the profile we have seen.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/13 08:28:38
Subject: 40k New Edition Summary - 12th June 17: FW Xenos Datasheets/Lord Duncan assembles Primaris (in OP)
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Sneaky Kommando
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Looks like I'm buying a meka dread orks are insane in this edition I'm even starting to question them myself the conga line shenanigans are ridiculous, but hey it's about time we had our edition.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/13 08:29:50
Subject: 40k New Edition Summary - 12th June 17: FW Xenos Datasheets/Lord Duncan assembles Primaris (in OP)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Rippy wrote:Hard to tell but looks like the old CSM one
Edit: zoomed out, I retract that statement
Its a conversion with the current plastic daemon prince and plague drone head :(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mslRaTVjOc0
Min 9.27 you can see better
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/13 08:59:54
Subject: 40k New Edition Summary - 12th June 17: FW Xenos Datasheets/Lord Duncan assembles Primaris (in OP)
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Looks like a head swap conversion.
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Stormonu wrote:For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/13 09:17:15
Subject: 40k New Edition Summary - 12th June 17: FW Xenos Datasheets/Lord Duncan assembles Primaris (in OP)
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Foxy Wildborne
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That is very obviously the old kit
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/13 09:27:55
Subject: 40k New Edition Summary - 12th June 17: FW Xenos Datasheets/Lord Duncan assembles Primaris (in OP)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I've got a Rogue Trader speeder that's yet to snap its post despite moving 5 times or more. They should bring back the weird hex flight stands those had, apparently.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/13 09:59:15
Subject: 40k New Edition Summary - 12th June 17: FW Xenos Datasheets/Lord Duncan assembles Primaris (in OP)
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Hissing Hybrid Metamorph
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I have been catching a wiff of the rumor about a FAQ with points changes coming out on or soon after release.
Can anyone nail down the source of this?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/13 10:49:21
Subject: 40k New Edition Summary - 12th June 17: FW Xenos Datasheets/Lord Duncan assembles Primaris (in OP)
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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Luciferian wrote:Damn, I was really hoping the marines would have interchangeable shoulder pads. A few days ago I ordered $40 worth of Dark Angels pads 
It doesn't look to me that the shoulderpads would be too difficult to swap, even on these monopose models.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/13 10:50:49
Subject: 40k New Edition Summary - 12th June 17: FW Xenos Datasheets/Lord Duncan assembles Primaris (in OP)
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Warning From Magnus? Not Listening!
UK
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Really nice though. Looks like Brundlefly.
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Dead account, no takesy-backsies |
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