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2017/05/01 14:46:45
Subject: GW Pricing to be based on USD for "The Rest of the World"
I do know of a few stores here that uses US pricing, but they always tap the number into a calculator before giving the final price in CAD. Plus they're all small-time independent stores. An international one doing this would probably not fly here.
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Kanluwen wrote:
Hell, I'm not that bothered by the Stormraven. Why? Because, as it stands right now, it's "limited use".When it's shoehorned in to the Codex: Space Marines, then yeah. I'll be irked.
When I'm editing alot, you know I have a gakload of homework to (not) do.
2017/05/01 16:29:16
Subject: GW Pricing to be based on USD for "The Rest of the World"
If the prices are based on the current US. prices converted over to whatever the relevant currency is then it looks like (off the top of my head.....I could be off on some ROW countries): Largish price hike in the UK, smallish hike in the EU and probably a decrease for ROW. Hopefully this means those down under will stopped being so badly gouged.
2017/05/01 16:31:31
Subject: GW Pricing to be based on USD for "The Rest of the World"
Ohman wrote: For me, new pricing in USD would mean a 25% price increase overnight. So yeah, I´m really hoping this is something that only effect the "rest of world/EU"-sections for now. But I have no doubt that we will all be feeling it further down the line.
I tried to find GWs facebook to ask them to clarify but it seems they have like a million different ones?
I'm a GW stockist and got this info at the beginning of April. I asked GW about it and they told me it only affects the places that are part of EU but not part of the EU taxation rules.
Here is a list of all these places:
Exclusions: There are some areas of the EU that are treated, for the purpose of the EU VAT, as if they were outside the EU:
Heligoland and Büsingen am Hochrhein in Germany
Ceuta, Melilla and The Canary Islands in Spain
Guadeloupe, French Guiana, Martinique and Réunion in France
Mount Athos in Greece
Livigno, Campione d'Italia and Lake Lugano in Italy
Aland Islands / Ahvenanmaa in Finland
the northern third of the island (the "Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus", recognised only by Turkey) and the Green Line, in Cyprus
Faroe Islands in Denmark
Gibraltar on Spain, Akrotiri and Dhekelia on Cyprus in the United Kingdom
the Saimaa Canal and the island of Malyj Vysotskij, Finland leases from Russia
Saint Barthélemy, Saint Martin and the Clipperton Island in France; etc.
IF YOU ARE NOT IN ONE OF THESE PLACES THIS CHANGE DOES NOT AFFECT YOU
Thanks! This new give me a mini-heart attack! But I know some friends on Canary Islands that are gonna be very pissed
Ohman wrote: For me, new pricing in USD would mean a 25% price increase overnight. So yeah, I´m really hoping this is something that only effect the "rest of world/EU"-sections for now. But I have no doubt that we will all be feeling it further down the line.
I tried to find GWs facebook to ask them to clarify but it seems they have like a million different ones?
I'm a GW stockist and got this info at the beginning of April. I asked GW about it and they told me it only affects the places that are part of EU but not part of the EU taxation rules.
Here is a list of all these places:
Exclusions: There are some areas of the EU that are treated, for the purpose of the EU VAT, as if they were outside the EU:
Heligoland and Büsingen am Hochrhein in Germany
Ceuta, Melilla and The Canary Islands in Spain
Guadeloupe, French Guiana, Martinique and Réunion in France
Mount Athos in Greece
Livigno, Campione d'Italia and Lake Lugano in Italy
Aland Islands / Ahvenanmaa in Finland
the northern third of the island (the "Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus", recognised only by Turkey) and the Green Line, in Cyprus
Faroe Islands in Denmark
Gibraltar on Spain, Akrotiri and Dhekelia on Cyprus in the United Kingdom
the Saimaa Canal and the island of Malyj Vysotskij, Finland leases from Russia
Saint Barthélemy, Saint Martin and the Clipperton Island in France; etc.
IF YOU ARE NOT IN ONE OF THESE PLACES THIS CHANGE DOES NOT AFFECT YOU
Thanks! This new give me a mini-heart attack! But I know some friends on Canary Islands that are gonna be very pissed
One might say that he'll go bananas.
We both know how people of Canarias go when you call "plátanos" bananas But yes. They aren't gonna like the change.
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Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote: Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
From what I see of people's notes, players in the EU may be short-changed by this development. It's a rather green move for GW, and also another way they buck the trend. Perhaps we could coin a term to describe it?
NinthMusketeer wrote: From what I see of people's notes, players in the EU may be short-changed by this development. It's a rather green move for GW, and also another way they buck the trend. Perhaps we could coin a term to describe it?
via a Reader on Faeit 212 I'm a GW stockist and got this info a while ago. I asked GW about it and they told me it only affects the places that are part of EU but not part of the EU taxation rules.
Here is a list of all these places: Exclusions: There are some areas of the EU that are treated, for the purpose of the EU VAT, as if they were outside the EU: Heligoland and Büsingen am Hochrhein in Germany Ceuta, Melilla and The Canary Islands in Spain Guadeloupe, French Guiana, Martinique and Réunion in France Mount Athos in Greece Livigno, Campione d'Italia and Lake Lugano in Italy Aland Islands / Ahvenanmaa in Finland the northern third of the island (the "Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus", recognised only by Turkey) and the Green Line, in Cyprus Faroe Islands in Denmark Gibraltar on Spain, Akrotiri and Dhekelia on Cyprus in the United Kingdom the Saimaa Canal and the island of Malyj Vysotskij, Finland leases from Russia Saint Barthélemy, Saint Martin and the Clipperton Island in France; etc.
IF YOU ARE NOT IN ONE OF THESE PLACES THIS CHANGE DOES NOT AFFECT YOU
-Aaron
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2017/05/02 12:22:20
Subject: GW Pricing to be based on USD for "The Rest of the World"
For some parts of the EU that uses the pound: Possible price hike.
For everywhere else: YES! FINALLY FAIR PRICING.
(The latter includes Canada, New Zealand and Australia).
FairER prices for Canada, New Zealand and Australia perhaps, but the former colony penalty/tax will still exist.
Example:
Shadow War: Armageddon rulebook:
UK price: 25 pounds @ $1.29 (today's rate) = US $32.50
US price: $40
US colonial tax = 23%
T
Haha, colony tax?
Fair enough.
But it sounds like this change affects almost none of us.
The US "colony tax" at the moment is mainly due to the GBP crashing after the brexit vote.
Apparently it'll all stop soon. Some incredibly reliable people have informed us that a bright, new dawn is imminently dawning and that we will all be swept along into the newer, brighter (British) sun.
It'll never set, either.
Or something.
So, in conclusion, no price rises for the majority of nationals represented here.
Except the UK fairly soon as production, import and materials costs are going to go through the roof once the tariffs come in.
2017/05/02 14:00:55
Subject: GW Pricing to be based on USD for "The Rest of the World"
via a Reader on Faeit 212
I'm a GW stockist and got this info a while ago. I asked
GW about it and they told me it only affects the places that are part of
EU but not part of the EU taxation rules.
Here is a list of all these places:
Exclusions: There are some areas of the EU that are treated, for the
purpose of the EU VAT, as if they were outside the EU:
Heligoland and Büsingen am Hochrhein in Germany
Ceuta, Melilla and The Canary Islands in Spain
Guadeloupe, French Guiana, Martinique and Réunion in France
Mount Athos in Greece
Livigno, Campione d'Italia and Lake Lugano in Italy
Aland Islands / Ahvenanmaa in Finland
the northern third of the island (the "Turkish Republic of Northern
Cyprus", recognised only by Turkey) and the Green Line, in Cyprus
Faroe Islands in Denmark
Gibraltar on Spain, Akrotiri and Dhekelia on Cyprus in the United Kingdom
the Saimaa Canal and the island of Malyj Vysotskij, Finland leases from
Russia
Saint Barthélemy, Saint Martin and the Clipperton Island in France; etc.
IF YOU ARE NOT IN ONE OF THESE PLACES THIS CHANGE DOES NOT AFFECT YOU
-Aaron
Hah! Dakka->FB->Dakka (look on page 1 of this thread)
2017/05/02 16:53:09
Subject: GW Pricing to be based on USD for "The Rest of the World"
For some parts of the EU that uses the pound: Possible price hike.
For everywhere else: YES! FINALLY FAIR PRICING.
(The latter includes Canada, New Zealand and Australia).
FairER prices for Canada, New Zealand and Australia perhaps, but the former colony penalty/tax will still exist.
Example:
Shadow War: Armageddon rulebook:
UK price: 25 pounds @ $1.29 (today's rate) = US $32.50
US price: $40
US colonial tax = 23%
T
Haha, colony tax?
Fair enough.
But it sounds like this change affects almost none of us.
The US "colony tax" at the moment is mainly due to the GBP crashing after the brexit vote.
Not really. It has pretty much always existed, at roughly the same rate, from at least the early '90s. You can go back and compare prices between UK and US White Dwarfs and will always see that the US prices are 20+ percent higher than the UK prices, regardless of the relative values of the two currencies.
T
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2017/05/02 17:10:24
Subject: GW Pricing to be based on USD for "The Rest of the World"
And it's done. Rest of World pricing is now all in USD instead of GBP.
Something everybody forgets when comparing overseas pricing to the UK pricing is that UK pricing already includes VAT of 20% (equivalent to sales tax in North America). The Start Collecting! Space Marines box sold at £50 is actually £41.67 plus tax. That works out to $53.84 at today's exchange rate, but GW sells the box in the States for $85.
Until a couple of years ago, overseas buyers in the RoW category (that was me, when I lived in Asia) were given the ex-VAT (i.e. discounted) price. GW switched that off some time after they redid the website, so they've been pocketing the tax from overseas buyers for quite some time.
Switching the currency to USD is just another step in lining their pockets further. The overnight price increase for RoW customers is 30%. The effective increase compared to the ex-VAT prices of 18 months ago is 56%
It's really just another cash grab from the "new" GW. I'm sure they saw a massive increase in overseas sales as Brexit took 20% off the value of the pound and they must be hoping that high sales volumes will continue with this new pricing. Good luck with that!
2017/05/02 17:43:45
Subject: GW Pricing to be based on USD for "The Rest of the World"
From my experience (I used to buy from "rest of Europe"), the prices are now caped at 1 euro to 0.77 gbp rate. While before, when making a direct payment through bank, I could buy stuff at 1 euro to 0.83-86 gbp rate, depending on the current bank exchange rate (maybe even 1 to 0.9 or 1:1 if pound ever dropped so low).
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JSF wrote:... this is really quite an audacious move by GW, throwing out any pretext that this is a game and that its customers exist to do anything other than buy their overpriced products for the sake of it. The naked arrogance, greed and contempt for their audience is shocking.
= Epic First Post.
2017/05/02 17:47:15
Subject: GW Pricing to be based on USD for "The Rest of the World"
Australia is a separate category to the "Rest of World" category on GW's website so there's no change. This change only affects the website regions Rest of World and Rest of EU (which now instead of paying in GBP is paying in Euros at some fictitious exchange rate).
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BrianDavion wrote: this definatly feels like GW's heding their bets with certain areas to avoid losing their short should the GBP tank
The pound already tanked. Since the exchange rates are based on imaginary values in the first place this is all gravy. Even if the exchange rate improves the profit margin is huge.
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2017/05/02 18:10:29
Subject: GW Pricing to be based on USD for "The Rest of the World"
Australia is a separate category to the "Rest of World" category on GW's website so there's no change. This change only affects the website regions Rest of World and Rest of EU (which now instead of paying in GBP is paying in Euros at some fictitious exchange rate).
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For some parts of the EU that uses the pound: Possible price hike.
For everywhere else: YES! FINALLY FAIR PRICING.
(The latter includes Canada, New Zealand and Australia).
FairER prices for Canada, New Zealand and Australia perhaps, but the former colony penalty/tax will still exist.
Example: Shadow War: Armageddon rulebook:
UK price: 25 pounds @ $1.29 (today's rate) = US $32.50 US price: $40
US colonial tax = 23%
T
Haha, colony tax?
Fair enough.
But it sounds like this change affects almost none of us.
The US "colony tax" at the moment is mainly due to the GBP crashing after the brexit vote.
Not really. It has pretty much always existed, at roughly the same rate, from at least the early '90s. You can go back and compare prices between UK and US White Dwarfs and will always see that the US prices are 20+ percent higher than the UK prices, regardless of the relative values of the two currencies.
T
Maybe in the 90's that was true, but for the past decade minus brexit vote, the GBP was around ~1.55, after brexit vote it dropped to ~1.3 and then further to ~1.25, 1.25 over 1.55 is roughly 20%, so if the price difference at the moment is ~23% (quoted from a previous poster in this thread) then that is mainly due to brexit.
Actually the GBP has typically been in the 1.5 ~ 2 range since the early 90's, so if GW stuff was more expensive in the past at some point they must have made an adjustment to bring them more in line and now they've slipped out of line mainly due to brexit. Given we haven't seen large price adjustments across the whole range for a while GW stuff in the US must have been similar price prior to brexit.
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2017/05/02 21:29:09
Subject: GW Pricing to be based on USD for "The Rest of the World"
For some parts of the EU that uses the pound: Possible price hike.
For everywhere else: YES! FINALLY FAIR PRICING.
(The latter includes Canada, New Zealand and Australia).
FairER prices for Canada, New Zealand and Australia perhaps, but the former colony penalty/tax will still exist.
Example:
Shadow War: Armageddon rulebook:
UK price: 25 pounds @ $1.29 (today's rate) = US $32.50
US price: $40
US colonial tax = 23%
T
Haha, colony tax?
Fair enough.
But it sounds like this change affects almost none of us.
The US "colony tax" at the moment is mainly due to the GBP crashing after the brexit vote.
Not really. It has pretty much always existed, at roughly the same rate, from at least the early '90s. You can go back and compare prices between UK and US White Dwarfs and will always see that the US prices are 20+ percent higher than the UK prices, regardless of the relative values of the two currencies.
T
Maybe in the 90's that was true, but for the past decade minus brexit vote, the GBP was around
~1.55, after brexit vote it dropped to ~1.3 and then further to ~1.25, 1.25 over 1.55 is roughly 20%, so if the price difference at the moment is ~23% (quoted from a previous poster in this thread) then that is mainly due to brexit.
Actually the GBP has typically been in the 1.5 ~ 2 range since the early 90's, so if GW stuff was more expensive in the past at some point they must have made an adjustment to bring them more in line and now they've slipped out of line mainly due to brexit. Given we haven't seen large price adjustments across the whole range for a while GW stuff in the US must have been similar price prior to brexit.
It's still a "tax" if you're artificially charging one country more because your currency tanked and you need to subsidize UK buyers. GW has always been crappy with exchange rates.
2017/05/02 22:08:19
Subject: GW Pricing to be based on USD for "The Rest of the World"
Zatsuku wrote: This would increase the prices by a lot in Canada. Our exchange rate is atrocious. Glad to hear that doesn't seem to be the case though.
Thank goodness it's not the case. A start collecting box is $85 USD, which would come to $116 CAD, not the $100 CAD it currently is.
price increase! 
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-- 9k 
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7000 
5250 pts
3850 pts
2500 pts