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2017/06/28 12:44:17
Subject: We've seen the ITC results, but what about Dakkas results so far?
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Sneaky Lictor
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Nids v Wolves - Loss
Nids v Primaris/Wolves - Win
Nids v Necrons - Win
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A Song of Ice and Fire - House Greyjoy.
AoS - Maggotkin of Nurgle, Ossiarch Bonereapers & Seraphon.
Bloodbowl - Lizardmen.
Horus Heresy - World Eaters.
Marvel Crisis Protocol - Avengers, Brotherhood of Mutants & Cabal.
Middle Earth Strategy Battle game - Rivendell & The Easterlings.
The Ninth Age - Beast Herds & Highborn Elves.
Warhammer 40k - Tyranids.
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2017/06/28 13:08:08
Subject: We've seen the ITC results, but what about Dakkas results so far?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Six-man round-robin over four days at WHW last week.
Death Guard (Plague Marines, bits and bobs - old vectorium)
AdMech/Skitarii
Chaos (Noise) Marines
Ork Kan Wall/stormboyz blobs
Space Marines (stormraven/2 stormtalons+assault marines)
Necrons (Silver Tide + Destroyers)
I don't have all the results, but I do know the Necron and Admech lists turned out to be utter filth. Necron only lost to Admech, and Admech only lost to Orks (with accusations of dubious rules interpretations apparently!)
I played DG. Didn't win a single game. My army just felt hugely underpowered; couldn't quite bring home the relic against the Orks (he grabbed it with a very dubious 16" move turn 1 out of ruins - probably should have argued that one more - then proceeded to bounce round the table); the one game I was sure of winning was relic vs chaos with a huge ruin in the middle of the table - turn 1 I was going to bring in terminators, lord, oblits onto the top of the ruin and I can't see how he could ever have shifted me out of there, but of course he seized and my game just went t*ts up after that.
Necrons and AdMech just wasnt a fair fight. Destroyers coming back on full wounds, or shooting killing my Land Raider (only chance versus his knight) on turn 1... just felt like we were playing a different game.
I just hope Mortarion is fracking insane, and we can actually have T5 FNP terminators in the codex, or this army was a massive waste of time and money.
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2017/06/28 13:14:22
Subject: We've seen the ITC results, but what about Dakkas results so far?
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Omnipotent Necron Overlord
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Ynnari vs Salamanders - Ynnari win
Greyknights vs Salamanders - Greyknights win
Ultra Marines vs Tau - Tau win
Ultra Marines vs Dark Eldar - Ultra Marines win
Greyknights vs Dark Eldar - Dark Eldar win.
Those are my 1v1's I usually play 2v2.
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If we fail to anticipate the unforeseen or expect the unexpected in a universe of infinite possibilities, we may find ourselves at the mercy of anyone or anything that cannot be programmed, categorized or easily referenced.
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2017/06/28 13:22:10
Subject: We've seen the ITC results, but what about Dakkas results so far?
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Sinewy Scourge
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4x Dark Eldar vs Tau: 3x Dark Eldar Win, 1x Tau win
4x Dark Eldar vs Tyranids: 2/2
Tyranids vs Tau: Tyranid Win
3x Dark Eldar vs Space Wolves: 3 Dark Eldar
Tyranids vs Space Wolves: Space Wolf victory.
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2017/06/28 13:36:59
Subject: We've seen the ITC results, but what about Dakkas results so far?
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!!Goffik Rocker!!
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I'му only played 3 games. 2 close wins with orks and one crushing defeat with marines. It just happens that orks are not as badly countered with scion comsquad spam.
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2017/06/28 13:49:29
Subject: Re:We've seen the ITC results, but what about Dakkas results so far?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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80 PL - Thousand Sons vs Super Heavies (Scorp and 2 Knights) - loss
80 PL - Thousand Sons vs Harlies - win
2000 - Thousand Sons vs Orks - win
2000 - Thousand Sons vs Orks - win
2000 - Thousand Sons vs Orks - win
2000 - Thousand Sons vs Orks - loss
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2017/06/28 13:51:59
Subject: Re:We've seen the ITC results, but what about Dakkas results so far?
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Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant
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I've played 3 games so far with my imperial guard
SM vs IG = IG win
Eldar and Tyranids vs SM and IG = IG and SM win
CSM vs IG = CSM Win
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2017/06/28 14:06:50
Subject: We've seen the ITC results, but what about Dakkas results so far?
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Potent Possessed Daemonvessel
Why Aye Ya Canny Dakkanaughts!
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Updated.
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Ghorros wrote:The moral of the story: Don't park your Imperial Knight in a field of Gretchin carrying power tools.
 Marmatag wrote:All the while, my opponent is furious, throwing his codex on the floor, trying to slash his wrists with safety scissors.
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2017/06/28 17:39:59
Subject: We've seen the ITC results, but what about Dakkas results so far?
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War Walker Pilot with Withering Fire
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Admech vs. Tau = Tau win
Admech vs. Aeldari = Admech win
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2017/06/28 18:03:31
Subject: We've seen the ITC results, but what about Dakkas results so far?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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Marines (with FW vehicles): win v. Marines, win v. Necrons, 2x loss v. Orks.
Aeldari (occasionally with Corsairs): loss v. Orks, win v. Orks, loss v. GK, win v. Marines, loss v. Marines.
Deathwatch (occasionally supplemented with a Fire Raptor): win v. Orks, 2x loss v. Orks.
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2017/06/28 18:22:27
Subject: We've seen the ITC results, but what about Dakkas results so far?
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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This is my record so far:
Black Legion vs Aeldari - win
Black Legion vs Orks - win
Black Legion vs Salamanders - win
Black Legion vs Craftworld Eldar - win
Black Legion vs Astra Militarum - loss
Black Legion vs Ultramarines - win
Is it just me or have Eldar been massively nerfed?
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2017/06/28 18:24:31
Subject: We've seen the ITC results, but what about Dakkas results so far?
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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 techsoldaten wrote:This is my record so far: Black Legion vs Aeldari - win Black Legion vs Orks - win Black Legion vs Salamanders - win Black Legion vs Craftworld Eldar - win Black Legion vs Astra Militarum - loss Black Legion vs Ultramarines - win Is it just me or have Eldar been massively nerfed?
It's just you. For most areas the Eldar are still auto win. The WK is comparable to a IK but is much cheaper, Scatter Lasers still mulch everything, and the Eldar are inexplicably both faster and more durable per point that everyone else. Also WS spam is back, and cheaper than ever!
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2017/06/28 18:38:47
Subject: We've seen the ITC results, but what about Dakkas results so far?
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
Little Rock, Arkansas
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BA vs imperial fists x2: BA wins handily x2
BA vs dark eldar: BA win
BA vs harlequins: BA win
BA vs chaos marines: BA win
BA vs GK: BA win
BA vs Raven guard: BA win
BA vs crons x2: crons win handily x2
I've been running a dual threat list with a bunch of tac and dev squads with heavy weapons, sitting around a reroll character, either Dante or a captain, and a jump pack assault force with sanguinor, lemartes, a priest, and a bunch of DC. Plus all 4 assassins.
So far I've been running over people...except for the damn necrons. I threw my entire 2000 point list at a warrior squad with 5++ from orikan behind them and a ghost ark starting turn 2 after some light long range peppering turn 1. I got the ark down t3 and the warriors on like turn 5. I literally never threw a shot at any other unit, and i just could not finish off the one unit and stop 15ish reanimations each turn. I killed like 60+ Warriors while trying to focus the unit down. And of course the other ~1600 points of his list was wrecking me.
Crons seem a bit over the top to me. It's the only match up so far where I feel like I don't have a reasonable chance. They outnumber me, and have better guns. It seems like the game is already in their favor even without RP. Once you add that in, it feels like I'm just splashing off them like water. Both games I've killed two units out of 10ish before getting obliterated.
They just feel statistically better than my dudes while being cheaper at the same time. \o.o/
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Tournament reports:
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2017/06/28 20:04:23
Subject: We've seen the ITC results, but what about Dakkas results so far?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Khorne marines vs BA khorne wins
Thousand sons vs black legion/csm TS win
TS v mixed csm/fallen TS win
Yay
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2017/06/28 20:08:54
Subject: Re:We've seen the ITC results, but what about Dakkas results so far?
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman
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Winning Army / Losing Army
Astra Militarum and Dark Angels vs. Necrons and Orks
Astra Militarum and Grey Knights vs. Necrons
Astra Militarum vs. Fallen
Astra Militarum and Orks vs. Dark Angels
Astra Militarum and Grey Knights vs. Death Guard and Dark Eldar
Astra Militarum vs. Orks
Chaos vs. Astra Militarum and Grey Knights
Astra Militarum and Grey Knights vs. Dark Angels and White Scars
Dark Angels and Assassins vs. World Eaters and Death Guard
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Basement WarGamers (BWG)
 Walnuts wrote: I'm an adult, I can't even fathom trying to impress a 15 year old. That makes as much sense as getting my cat to think my outfit is 'cool'.
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2017/06/28 21:35:03
Subject: We've seen the ITC results, but what about Dakkas results so far?
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Devastating Dark Reaper
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Games I've played:
Craftworld Eldar vs Dark Eldar ----> Craftworld Eldar wins
Craftworld Eldar vs Tau ----> Craftworld Eldar wins
Craftworld Eldar vs Dark Angels ----> Craftworld Eldar wins
Craftworld Eldar vs Space Marines ----> Craftworld Eldar wins
Craftworld Eldar vs Tau ----> Craftworld Eldar wins
Craftworld Eldar vs Tyranids ----> Craftworld Eldar wins
Craftworld Eldar vs Tyranids ----> Craftworld Eldar wins
Craftworld Eldar vs Craftworld Eldar ----> Craftworld Eldar wins
Games I've witnessed:
Tau vs Space Marines ----> Tau wins
Orks vs Chaos Space Marine ----> Orks win
Tyranids vs Chaos Space Marine ----> Tyranids win
Sisters of Battle vs Dark Eldar ----> Dark Eldar wins
Harlequins vs Tyranids ----> Tyranids win
White Scars vs Orks ---> White Scars win
Tyranids vs Tau ----> Tau win
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Hige sceal þē heardra || heorte þē cēnre,
mōd sceal þē māre || þē ūre mægen lytlað. |
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2017/06/28 21:46:22
Subject: We've seen the ITC results, but what about Dakkas results so far?
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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What sort of CWE army builds do you favour?
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2017/06/28 21:47:50
Subject: We've seen the ITC results, but what about Dakkas results so far?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Northridge, CA
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2017/06/28 22:22:07
Subject: We've seen the ITC results, but what about Dakkas results so far?
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Devastating Dark Reaper
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My favorite is Saim Hann, which varies between jetbike-heavy and mechanized, but I also enjoy Aspect Hosts, and I will occasionally switch things up with a Spirit Host.
My most recent 2000 point list is as follows:
-Outrider Detachment-
Farseer Skyrunner w/ singing spear
Autarch Skyrunner w/ fusion gun, laser lance
6x Windrunner w/ shuriken cannons
3x Shining Spears w/ Exarch, starlance
3x Shining Spears w/ Exarch, starlance
3x Hornet w/ hornet pulse lasers
Wave Serpent w/ shuriken cannons, spirit stones, vectored engines
5x Fire Dragon w/ Exarch, flamer
5x Fire Dragon w/ Exarch, flamer
Hemlock Wraithfighter
Crimson Hunter
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2017/06/29 00:23:43
Hige sceal þē heardra || heorte þē cēnre,
mōd sceal þē māre || þē ūre mægen lytlað. |
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2017/06/28 23:03:46
Subject: We've seen the ITC results, but what about Dakkas results so far?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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My results:
Admech victories:
Admech vs craftworld eldar (1)
Admech vs tyranids (1)
Admech vs space marines (2)
Admech vs necrons (1)
Admech Loss
Admech vs Orks (1)
Admech vs Sisters of Battle (1)
Admech vs Chaos Demons (1)
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2017/06/28 23:13:14
Subject: We've seen the ITC results, but what about Dakkas results so far?
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Devastating Dark Reaper
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Scatterbikes and Wraithknights were nerfed as they deserved, yes. The rest of the faction? Not so much. Wave Serpents were buffed for some incomprehensible reason, Dire Avengers got way worse and are hard to justify taking, but everything else is fine.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2017/06/28 23:18:30
Hige sceal þē heardra || heorte þē cēnre,
mōd sceal þē māre || þē ūre mægen lytlað. |
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2017/06/28 23:43:29
Subject: We've seen the ITC results, but what about Dakkas results so far?
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Missionary On A Mission
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I've only managed two games so far but my SoB are 1W : 1L both times against normal marines
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Lothlorien: 3500pts
Rohan: 1500pts
Serpent: 2000pts
Modor: 1500pts |
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2017/06/28 23:45:28
Subject: We've seen the ITC results, but what about Dakkas results so far?
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Tunneling Trygon
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Tyranids loss to DA
Tyranids beat DA
Tyranids beat DA
Tyranids beat DA
Tyranids beat SW
Tyranids beat DA
Tyranids lose to SW
Tyranids beat SW
Tyranids beat Tau
Tyranids beat Tau
Tyranids lose to Drukhari
Tyranids beat Tau
Tyranids beat GK
Tyranids beat CSM
And
Ultramarines beat DA
Ultramrines beat SW
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2017/06/29 00:29:14
Subject: We've seen the ITC results, but what about Dakkas results so far?
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Devastating Dark Reaper
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Three more games I witnessed which I forgot to include in my previous post:
Raven Guard vs Tau - Raven Guard win
Dark Angels vs Chaos Space Marine - Dark Angels win
Dark Angels vs Chaos Space Marine - Dark Angels win
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Hige sceal þē heardra || heorte þē cēnre,
mōd sceal þē māre || þē ūre mægen lytlað. |
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2017/06/29 00:37:35
Subject: We've seen the ITC results, but what about Dakkas results so far?
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Devastating Dark Reaper
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Tyranids vs Blood angels Win
Tyranids VS Astra Militarum Loss
Astra Millitarum vs Space marines Win x2
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2017/06/29 00:39:30
Subject: We've seen the ITC results, but what about Dakkas results so far?
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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Damn, sounds like your 'nids are havin' themselves a feast!
Congrats 
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The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
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2017/06/29 02:11:36
Subject: We've seen the ITC results, but what about Dakkas results so far?
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Furious Fire Dragon
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Primaris vs nurgle: Nurgle win
Space wolves vs nurgle: Nurgle win
GK vs DW: GK win
GK vs primaris: GK win
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2017/06/29 03:12:54
Subject: We've seen the ITC results, but what about Dakkas results so far?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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SilverAlien wrote:My results:
Admech victories:
Admech vs craftworld eldar (1)
Admech vs tyranids (1)
Admech vs space marines (2)
Admech vs necrons (1)
Admech Loss
Admech vs Orks (1)
Admech vs Sisters of Battle (1)
Admech vs Chaos Demons (1)
Oh, full disclosure a few of these I was running a knight as a super heavy, so I guess they'd technically be imperium armies?
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2017/06/29 03:28:06
Subject: Re:We've seen the ITC results, but what about Dakkas results so far?
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Battlefortress Driver with Krusha Wheel
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Orks - 11W 29L
Just shoot me now.
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warhammer 40k mmo. If I can drive an ork trukk into the back of a space marine dread and explode in a fireball of epic, I can die happy! 
8k points
 3k points
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Admech 2.5k points
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2017/06/29 03:42:39
Subject: We've seen the ITC results, but what about Dakkas results so far?
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Member of the Malleus
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Grey Knights vs. Imperial Guard: GK Win
Grey Knights vs. Imperial Guard: IG Win
Grey Knights & Imperial Knight vs. Imperial Guard: GK Win
Grey Knights vs. Imperial Guard: IG Win
Space Marines vs. Space Wolves: SW Win
All I have done so far.
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I make bad decisions and think they are good.
Team No Bueno
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