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Look, I know this is a thread about Nurgle & Death Guard, but that doesn't mean the posts need to be toxic to other users - the background of the models and names of their weapons should be as toxic as it gets.

I personally don't like the snot green & purple scheme he is painted in - technically it is a great paint job but it's not my preferred style - but I'll reserve judgement as to the actual sculpt when we have better (preferably unpainted) pictures.

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Look, I know this is a thread about Nurgle & Death Guard, but that doesn't mean the posts need to be toxic to other users - the background of the models and names of their weapons should be as toxic as it gets.

I personally don't like the snot green & purple scheme he is painted in - technically it is a great paint job but it's not my preferred style - but I'll reserve judgement as to the actual sculpt when we have better (preferably unpainted) pictures.

It's my fault really. I just have a personal grudge against people constantly gak talking GW stuff with no basis. its so annoying. we have no good pictures yet the "paint job doesn't do it justice". do what? we can barely see him lol

So I think it's worth pointing out the people disliking the paint aren't harping on the painter's skill (obviously it took time and effort to do it) so much as very poor color choices that don't fit what most of us want from DG, making our opinion of the model overall lower.

So maybe don't act like a total nob and get the thread locked because you are trying to prove a point about how much more knowledgeable you are about the art of painting toy soldiers? Thanks!

Voss wrote:
The hammer floating below the 'bulb' on the 'scythe.'
Something pink is holding it.

That's just the tentacle on a poxwalkers, think that models been released already.

We can see him pretty well.

Hmmm, but that itself is dangerous ground to trespass on. It's also one of the most frequent internet fall backs when people can't defend something.

The "let's see you do better!" school of argument is useless. I am neither a sculptor, nor a painter and I can tell you I dislike the Mortarion model quite a bit. Do I need a list of fancy artistic terms to explain why? No.

The leaked picture is more than enough to get a very good look at the figure. The paintwork on it is likely fine (GW has decent painters in their employ - though nowhere near as good as some other professionals). Like most businesses their painters are likely working on very constricted timelines and probably put out a TON of models.

GW's been on a roll lately and has been doing really well, gaining back a lot of positive feedback and a lot of returning customers. That doesn't mean everything they produce is made of gold.

I think the Mortarion figure could be saved with some heavy cutting/modding (lose a lot of the extraneous detail), changing of the wings, and a much better/darker/more appropriate paint scheme. However it'll likely never be a top marks sculpt to me. I don't think we'll see many options with this one either given the way it's styled.

I think I would definitey clip off, or simply not fit, the chains and globes hanging off him

NoggintheNog wrote:
I think I would definitey clip off, or simply not fit, the chains and globes hanging off him

Censor the censers you mean?!!? :p

eosgreen wrote:

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Look, I know this is a thread about Nurgle & Death Guard, but that doesn't mean the posts need to be toxic to other users - the background of the models and names of their weapons should be as toxic as it gets.

I personally don't like the snot green & purple scheme he is painted in - technically it is a great paint job but it's not my preferred style - but I'll reserve judgement as to the actual sculpt when we have better (preferably unpainted) pictures.

It's my fault really. I just have a personal grudge against people constantly gak talking GW stuff with no basis. its so annoying. we have no good pictures yet the "paint job doesn't do it justice". do what? we can barely see him lol

It can be the most wonderfully painted figure in the world but crappy colour choices can ruin it.

There's no focal point, everything is sharply highlighted and all the details blend into each other because there's no depth, I'm finding my eyes drawn to the thing above his head instead of his face. I'm at a loose end so I fixed the over-exsposure on the photo, I also adjusted a few other things out of habit. No lie, focusing on his face for a few seconds started to make my eyes go funny because of all the crap surrounding it. The fact that they've lit it flatly and highlighted ALL the detail with harsh lines made it physically hurt to look at.

I think Morty would look pretty good with white armor. I am painting all my DG with old Legion colors and it looks more appealing to me. also allows me to double my HH DG for 40k.

 Elbows wrote:
Hmmm, but that itself is dangerous ground to trespass on. It's also one of the most frequent internet fall backs when people can't defend something.

The "let's see you do better!" school of argument is useless. I am neither a sculptor, nor a painter and I can tell you I dislike the Mortarion model quite a bit. Do I need a list of fancy artistic terms to explain why? No.

The leaked picture is more than enough to get a very good look at the figure. The paintwork on it is likely fine (GW has decent painters in their employ - though nowhere near as good as some other professionals). Like most businesses their painters are likely working on very constricted timelines and probably put out a TON of models.

GW's been on a roll lately and has been doing really well, gaining back a lot of positive feedback and a lot of returning customers. That doesn't mean everything they produce is made of gold.

I think the Mortarion figure could be saved with some heavy cutting/modding (lose a lot of the extraneous detail), changing of the wings, and a much better/darker/more appropriate paint scheme. However it'll likely never be a top marks sculpt to me. I don't think we'll see many options with this one either given the way it's styled.

i did post "doing better" btw, much much better and the argument in regards to painting matters. Bad painters tend to have bad POV. "i don't like the colors" ok well its nurgle... nurlge is purple green pink white brown red blue... wait so every color makes up nurgle? also the guy who paints these wins golden demons. Hes not just "an avg painter" hes above avg by a lot. aidyn daly look up his latest roboute guilliman which he rushed btw, rushed and looks that good.

one could argue the sculpt is too busy but thats not what was said, what was said was that "the paint job doesn't do the model justice" when it looks good to me in the confines of the sculpt and what nurgle tends to be color wise. The cape/cloak HAVE to be a color such as that to stand out and GW doesn't do the "natural" look which would more likely be like the nagash cloth on the latest slayer sword winner, rotted out and brown. Its pretty hard to make nurgle shiny and cartoonish but thats the GW style

Sim-Life wrote:

eosgreen wrote:

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Look, I know this is a thread about Nurgle & Death Guard, but that doesn't mean the posts need to be toxic to other users - the background of the models and names of their weapons should be as toxic as it gets.

I personally don't like the snot green & purple scheme he is painted in - technically it is a great paint job but it's not my preferred style - but I'll reserve judgement as to the actual sculpt when we have better (preferably unpainted) pictures.

It's my fault really. I just have a personal grudge against people constantly gak talking GW stuff with no basis. its so annoying. we have no good pictures yet the "paint job doesn't do it justice". do what? we can barely see him lol

It can be the most wonderfully painted figure in the world but crappy colour choices can ruin it.

There's no focal point, everything is sharply highlighted and all the details blend into each other because there's no depth, I'm finding my eyes drawn to the thing above his head instead of his face. I'm at a loose end so I fixed the over-exsposure on the photo, I also adjusted a few other things out of habit. No lie, focusing on his face for a few seconds started to make my eyes go funny because of all the crap surrounding it. The fact that they've lit it flatly and highlighted ALL the detail with harsh lines made it physically hurt to look at.

Yeah, that shade of purple isn't doing the model any favors. Most depictions of Mortarion has him wearing gauze or white cloth - why didn't they go for that with this model?

All in all it's a nice model. The 'eavy metal paint job probably doesn't do it justice.

A couple of things bug me though, I think the scythe looks a bit Skaven clan skyre and why does the smoke from his back blow a different way to all the other models in the picture?

The model looks great. It is weird and chaosy (why are there so many chaos player who wan their chaos marines to look like normal marines? If you don't like horns and tentacles, then perhaps you should have thought about that before betraying the Master of Mankind?) The insect wings are marvellous. The paint job is absolutely fine, it is not how I'd paint it, but there's nothing wrong with it; the muted green and purple work great together.

From what I can see of him, I like Mortarion quite a bit more than Magnus (and I do like Magnus). The wings are a really cool design, as is the helmet. I could do with a little less bling around the edges.

Marleymoo wrote:
All in all it's a nice model. The 'eavy metal paint job probably doesn't do it justice.

A couple of things bug me though, I think the scythe looks a bit Skaven clan skyre and why does the smoke from his back blow a different way to all the other models in the picture?

I almost get the impression that they put it on the wrong way round. It would be in the right direction if you flipped it. I'm probably going to take it off personally anyway, but yeah it hurts my OCD

eosgreen wrote:

 Formosa wrote:

Ruin wrote:

eosgreen wrote:
so annoying seeing bad painters say a paint job doesn't do the model justice.

A - we cant really see the detail
B - they don't put in 400 hours to these models
C - you don't have any idea what constitutes a good paint job
D - nurgle is virtually impossible to paint well without tons and tons of time put into it refer to david soper if you need to see what good nurgle looks like and then understand he spends 100s of hours

Ah that old chestnut. Tell me, do you have to eat dog gak to know it tastes bad?

Lol ok, yep you don't need to eat crap to know it tastes crap and to the op.

I'm a very good painter, soooo

A: I can see enough detail
B: I don't need to put 400 hours into a single mini to make it look like this
C: yep, yep I do
D: nurgle is not virtually impossible to paint without putting loads of time in, its one of the easier ones to paint compared to say, imperial fists, if you want them to look good that is.

So with all that out the way, it's a bad looking model and far too busy on the eye, the paint job isn't great, but I'm not complaining about that, it's just what gw wants deathfuard to look like, always found the muted nurgle scheme boring.

you are not a good painter lol at all. delusional. you are dead wrong also you didnt even address waht i said. I said nurgle is not the type of model that you can "edge highlight". I can paint those new primaris in 10mins and they will look insane. models with lots of skin and lots of diff color detail like this requires lots of glazing. Glazing = time. You can see detail on this model? the pic is garbage rofl. You cant see a single meaningful thing in that pic rofl. unreal man. I feel like mini wargaming nerds are like the far left or far right of politics. Outright insane

Your gallery doesn't even have a single mode that has good glazing/painting what would you know.

If topic gets locked thats fine I'm just sick of people ill equip to judge passing judgement

Chill out

Marleymoo wrote:
A couple of things bug me though, I think the scythe looks a bit Skaven clan skyre and why does the smoke from his back blow a different way to all the other models in the picture?

Funnily enough, I think I remember reading that his scythe was originally a unique Necron artifact.

eosgreen wrote:

 Formosa wrote:

Ruin wrote:

eosgreen wrote:
so annoying seeing bad painters say a paint job doesn't do the model justice.

A - we cant really see the detail
B - they don't put in 400 hours to these models
C - you don't have any idea what constitutes a good paint job
D - nurgle is virtually impossible to paint well without tons and tons of time put into it refer to david soper if you need to see what good nurgle looks like and then understand he spends 100s of hours

Ah that old chestnut. Tell me, do you have to eat dog gak to know it tastes bad?

Lol ok, yep you don't need to eat crap to know it tastes crap and to the op.

I'm a very good painter, soooo

A: I can see enough detail
B: I don't need to put 400 hours into a single mini to make it look like this
C: yep, yep I do
D: nurgle is not virtually impossible to paint without putting loads of time in, its one of the easier ones to paint compared to say, imperial fists, if you want them to look good that is.

So with all that out the way, it's a bad looking model and far too busy on the eye, the paint job isn't great, but I'm not complaining about that, it's just what gw wants deathfuard to look like, always found the muted nurgle scheme boring.

you are not a good painter lol at all. delusional. you are dead wrong also you didnt even address waht i said. I said nurgle is not the type of model that you can "edge highlight". I can paint those new primaris in 10mins and they will look insane. models with lots of skin and lots of diff color detail like this requires lots of glazing. Glazing = time. You can see detail on this model? the pic is garbage rofl. You cant see a single meaningful thing in that pic rofl. unreal man. I feel like mini wargaming nerds are like the far left or far right of politics. Outright insane

Your gallery doesn't even have a single mode that has good glazing/painting what would you know.

If topic gets locked thats fine I'm just sick of people ill equip to judge passing judgement

A: I can see enough detail.

Funny that, addressed what you said immediately.

B: I don't need 400 hours etc.

Omg ! I addressed what you said again !!!

C: yep, yep I do

Jeeeeejus, I keep addressing what you've said ! I'm such a cad

D: nurgle is not etc

Wow, I keep addressing what your saying, but I must be putting it in invisible ink or something.

And yep I'm a good painter, your not, see how easy that is to throw around a subjective comment, and glazing is the only way to see if someone is a good painter lol, nope, not everything has to be neat, some things look better with a slightly messy look, but I doubt you understand that.

What a shout someone at B&C suggested, swap the fly wings with the Morghast Skeleton wings. Just the right amount of skeleton to represent death, tattered wing to fill the Nurlge look with spiritis(fumes) coming off them. Will definitely be doing this.

Love the model though, only thing I would change would be the wings. I just don't like fly wings even on the drones, even though he's supposed to be Nurgle made manifest, to me he should still look like Death.

Agree that the purple is off putting and I think gold and tattered white will just look schmexy as cant wait to see other peoples take on him.

So now the other question.....so errrr since yall got a picture of morty, surely those Beasts of Nurgle and Terminators are on the next page?

I think it looks neat. Can't wait to see the terminators!

Not a fan of the paint job, but whatever, we'll be seeing lots of cool alternative schemes once the model is released.

Anyone else watching the CSM codex discussion on the twitch stream and am I hearing this right, we should see some DG preview today or something to do with DG?

 unmercifulconker wrote:
Anyone else watching the CSM codex discussion on the twitch stream and am I hearing this right, we should see some DG preview today or something to do with DG?

If what you say is true....
I just poohed a little with excitement

What did they say exactly to make you think that?

 Tiberius501 wrote:

 unmercifulconker wrote:
Anyone else watching the CSM codex discussion on the twitch stream and am I hearing this right, we should see some DG preview today or something to do with DG?

If what you say is true....
I just poohed a little with excitement

Sorry I don't wanna be creating any false hype, the guy mentioned about something being put up on the community site today if not already and I think they are aware of the Mortarion picture so maybe we will get a proper look at him today?

Some ropey acting and a quick look/360 of Mortarion

OH !!!!!

That is one Fugly Model a face only a "father" could love, I'm actually glad as it diminishes my temptation to expand on my Dark Imperium Death Guard.
I was hoping for a more Reapery style model. Two down two to go, who will it be Khorne or Slannesh?

Actually Typhus could change things.

 unmercifulconker wrote:

 Tiberius501 wrote:

 unmercifulconker wrote:
Anyone else watching the CSM codex discussion on the twitch stream and am I hearing this right, we should see some DG preview today or something to do with DG?

If what you say is true....
I just poohed a little with excitement

Sorry I don't wanna be creating any false hype, the guy mentioned about something being put up on the community site today if not already and I think they are aware of the Mortarion picture so maybe we will get a proper look at him today?

I know the most recent Chapter Standard post had to do with Nurgle, though that was posted ages ago.

Man, I hope they do post something, that would be great

Mortarion looks bad.ass

That slightly hunched over stance is stellar, that base, still gonna swap the wings out I think but that's certainly a Primarch

Dat Typhus. Dat Tallyman.

endlesswaltz123 wrote:
The only thing I'd change is the wings. I think the more bare, skeletal and feathers style teased in some art would suit rather than the long strips of skin with a few holes pumped into it.

I think the wings from the FW Bloodthirster would look more in keeping with how I imagine Mortarion, ragged and clawed. Those insect wings look a bit faeriesh.



Apart from that, I think it is a pretty good model although I am not a big fan of the colour scheme used (like most others apparently).