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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/12 08:14:02
Subject: Re:Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [News: Codex reviews / Deathshroud Terminators preorder Sept 16th]
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
Australia
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Sorry O'Shovah's for the mistake, serves me right for being snarky just after waking up. Thanks also to the 319 people who found it in themselves to correct me.
Anyway, according to banis on B&C, the Heavy Blight Launcher is apparently range 36" assault 6 str 6 ap2 dmg d3; apologies if this has been posted already.
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The Circle of Iniquity
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/12 08:57:27
Subject: Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [News: Codex reviews / Deathshroud Terminators preorder Sept 16th]
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Wondering Why the Emperor Left
The Hague (NL)
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Curious about the Blight Lords, I get the feeling there won't be any power fist option nor an option for 5x the same big gun to prevent us from using FW 30k Grave Wardens of which I have a bunch lying around .
Hoping that's not the case!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/12 10:04:17
Subject: Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [News: Codex reviews / Deathshroud Terminators preorder Sept 16th]
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Warhams-77 wrote:Another collection of info from the MWG video, by TheMelancholic - B&C forum
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Biologus Putrifier:
An elite character choice
Same profile as above
Comes with an injector pistol which has 3" range, strength 4 -1AP Damage D6 (1 against vehicles). Meh.
Has Hyper-Blight Grenades which are Strength 4 and damage 2. He also gives these to all Death Guard units within 3" of him (provided they had Blight Grenades already).
Can explode like a vechile on death to deal one mortal wound to all non-Nurgle units around him.
Yeah...he's okay. Synergies well with Blight Bombardment (which allows everyone in a unit to throw grenades simultaneously). Perhaps serves best with an assault team but I can't really see his place in the army.
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Also he gives mortal wounds on 6+ to wound on granades no?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/12 11:03:16
Subject: Re:Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [News: Codex reviews / Deathshroud Terminators preorder Sept 16th]
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Marshal Loss wrote:Sorry O'Shovah's for the mistake, serves me right for being snarky just after waking up. Thanks also to the 319 people who found it in themselves to correct me.
Anyway, according to banis on B&C, the Heavy Blight Launcher is apparently range 36" assault 6 str 6 ap2 dmg d3; apologies if this has been posted already.
Glad i held off and only grabbed 2nd hand D.I. nurgle set and someones leftover p.marines and nox.
I added 2 quick plague kits and now i have the blightwar nurgle and a Morty on the way.
If i can grab another 2 lords contagion, ill do some quick conversions and use them as deathshroud(for morty).
I think ill grab 1 foetid kit and see if i can magnetize to switch between heavy blight and mower.
3 haulers and 2 crawlers and i think maybe 1 kit of new p.marines for a cc squad.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/12 13:50:10
Subject: Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [News: Codex reviews / Deathshroud Terminators preorder Sept 16th]
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Plaguelord Titan Princeps of Nurgle
Alabama
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Warhams-77 wrote:Another collection of info from the MWG video, by TheMelancholic - B&C forum
Foul Blightspawn:
An elite character choice (we get a lot of these)
Pretty solid profile. WS/BS 3+ 4W T5 Ld8 Disgustingly Resilient e.c.t.
Gets a random strength (2d6) plague weapon flamer with good -3AP and 3 damage
Has a debuff to enemy units charging friendlies within 7", taking away their charge priority and or any rules that give them attack priority (e.g. quicksilver swiftness/flawless execution). This means units that charge within 7" of this guy have to be activated by your opponent rather than going first by default. Probably his most useful trait.
Once per game he can throw a Blight-Grenade at Grenade 2d6 instead of Grenade d6 or he can allow a friendly Death Guard character within 3" to throw the a Blight Grenade (or Hyper-Blight Grenade) at 2d6 instead.
You are taking this guy for his charge debuff I feel...his randumb strength flamer could be good (average strength 7 is okay) but I don't like the unreliability of such things. Still, not the worst choice. Has some synergy with the guy below.
YES! I was hoping for some sort of anti-charge mechanic. I think this will be huge. With all of our special elite characters, I can easily see Vanguard Detachments of Elite characters being put together to support our Battalion detachments or Spearhead detachments.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/12 14:21:47
Subject: Re:Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [News: Codex reviews / Deathshroud Terminators preorder Sept 16th]
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Hissing Hybrid Metamorph
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With my list I'm building, I'm not quite sure whether I should take the bloat drone with the mower or the cute tracked thing with the multi-melta and such. The drone is amazing with that mower, but the cover save aura from the cute little dude seems really handy, along with a decent amount of anti-tank.
EDIT: Also can't decide between taking the dude who buffs Blight grenades to S4, 2dmg or the Surgeon for the re-rolling 1's for DR. I only really have the rough amount of points for 1 and they both seem awesome. The DR will obviously help them live a little better as they move up the board, but the grenade dude mixed with that stratagem to allow a full squad to chuck grenades would be an insane WW1 style grenade volley of death from the 14 man unit I'm thinking of taking.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/12 14:31:20
Subject: Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [News: Codex reviews / Deathshroud Terminators preorder Sept 16th]
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Mayk0l wrote:Curious about the Blight Lords, I get the feeling there won't be any power fist option nor an option for 5x the same big gun to prevent us from using FW 30k Grave Wardens of which I have a bunch lying around .
Hoping that's not the case!
The final nail in the 'I made a Vectorium at the start of the year' coffin... I bought Grave Wardens as I loved the models.
If I can't take power fists for my terminators I think I may just cry.
(I'm already going to lose two units of Havocs - of which I bought two sets of FW heavy weapons to make - seven Obliterators, six Bikers, and two Heldrakes... might as well bin my army).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/12 14:34:15
Subject: Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [News: Codex reviews / Deathshroud Terminators preorder Sept 16th]
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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zerosignal wrote: Mayk0l wrote:Curious about the Blight Lords, I get the feeling there won't be any power fist option nor an option for 5x the same big gun to prevent us from using FW 30k Grave Wardens of which I have a bunch lying around .
Hoping that's not the case!
The final nail in the 'I made a Vectorium at the start of the year' coffin... I bought Grave Wardens as I loved the models.
If I can't take power fists for my terminators I think I may just cry.
(I'm already going to lose two units of Havocs - of which I bought two sets of FW heavy weapons to make - seven Obliterators, six Bikers, and two Heldrakes... might as well bin my army).
Just take them as allied Chaos marines with the Mark of Nurgle. You don't get major perks of being Death Guard, but you can at least still use the models.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/12 14:39:13
Subject: Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [News: Codex reviews / Deathshroud Terminators preorder Sept 16th]
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I have a Heldrake, about 30 Chaos Space Marines, probably 20 Chosen, 3x Oblits, 1x Biker Squad, 10 x Terminators... plus 20x Posessed and a Sorcerer in Terminator armor that I don't see myself ever using with DG.
Luckily, none of it was painted. I thought about maybe making a new CSM army but I have no idea which Legion I'd try to make.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/12 14:46:14
Subject: Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [News: Codex reviews / Deathshroud Terminators preorder Sept 16th]
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Qlanth wrote:I have a Heldrake, about 30 Chaos Space Marines, probably 20 Chosen, 3x Oblits, 1x Biker Squad, 10 x Terminators... plus 20x Posessed and a Sorcerer in Terminator armor that I don't see myself ever using with DG.
Luckily, none of it was painted. I thought about maybe making a new CSM army but I have no idea which Legion I'd try to make.
What's your favorite legion?
I am doing some specific Legion small detachments (mainly composed of elite units) which are supposed to play with my Black Legion battalion.
Heavy support (havocs and vehicles) - Iron Warriors
Possessed and Dark Apostle - Word Bearers
Raptors and Talons - Night Warriors
Noise Marines - Emperor's Children
Berzerkers - World Eaters
Bikers and some Chosen - Alpha Legion
Rubric Marines and Sorcerers - Thousand Sons
But with the new DG stuff I'm going to make a full DG army on the side as well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/12 15:29:30
Subject: Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [News: Codex reviews / Deathshroud Terminators preorder Sept 16th]
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Oozing Plague Marine Terminator
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Luckily I only have to replace my Lightning Claw Champion for a converted up Death Wing Flail Knight to run the Blight Lords.
Obliterators can always be subbed as Iron Warriors, (The Pandemic Brotherhood) and with the Grandfather's Gift strategem, I can bring one back to life, or if I disregard their color scheme, count them as slaanesh for double shooting. I think Ignores Cover heavy weapons is useful in most situations. My Havocs and melta bikers fit in this role nicely too. After all, it took a combination of Morty and Perturabo to perfect the Obliterator Virus.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/12 15:40:02
Subject: Re:Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [News: Codex reviews / Deathshroud Terminators preorder Sept 16th]
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Warning From Magnus? Not Listening!
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Ok, I am totally doing a nurgle-themed Dark Mechanicum army with DG allies. I just need to hold out till christmas...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/12 16:21:03
Subject: Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [News: Codex reviews / Deathshroud Terminators preorder Sept 16th]
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Ancient Chaos Terminator
Surfing the Tervigon Wave...on a baby.
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Mayk0l wrote:Curious about the Blight Lords, I get the feeling there won't be any power fist option nor an option for 5x the same big gun to prevent us from using FW 30k Grave Wardens of which I have a bunch lying around .
Hoping that's not the case!
I think power fists, chainfists and lightning claws are safe - it seems the rest is. Plus the Chaos Terminator Lord kit has those options...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/12 18:24:18
Subject: Re:Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [News: Codex reviews / Deathshroud Terminators preorder Sept 16th]
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Plaguelord Titan Princeps of Nurgle
Alabama
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Does anyone know the full list of Mortarion's keywords?
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WH40K
Death Guard 5100 pts.
Daemons 3000 pts.
DT:70+S++G+M-B-I--Pw40K90-D++A++/eWD?R++T(D)DM+
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/12 19:55:44
Subject: Re:Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [News: Codex reviews / Deathshroud Terminators preorder Sept 16th]
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Pestilent Plague Marine with Blight Grenade
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<Death Guard> <Daemon> <Primarch> <Disappointment> <Overpriced> <Internally Weeping>
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/12 19:57:28
Subject: Re:Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [News: Codex reviews / Deathshroud Terminators preorder Sept 16th]
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Potent Possessed Daemonvessel
Why Aye Ya Canny Dakkanaughts!
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Charax wrote:
<Death Guard> <Daemon> <Primarch> <Disappointment> <Overpriced> <Internally Weeping>
Does that stack with my <Parent's Disappointment>?
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Ghorros wrote:The moral of the story: Don't park your Imperial Knight in a field of Gretchin carrying power tools.
Marmatag wrote:All the while, my opponent is furious, throwing his codex on the floor, trying to slash his wrists with safety scissors. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/12 19:59:03
Subject: Re:Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [News: Codex reviews / Deathshroud Terminators preorder Sept 16th]
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Pestilent Plague Marine with Blight Grenade
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It's kind of the Helbrute Vs Helbrute situation
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/12 20:24:25
Subject: Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [News: Codex reviews / Deathshroud Terminators preorder Sept 16th]
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Ancient Chaos Terminator
Surfing the Tervigon Wave...on a baby.
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So, seeing what we've seen so far my own collection boils down as follows...
Death Guard
Typhus
Terminator Lord - LC, Combi-Melta
Chaos Lord - Bolt Pistol, Power Mace (Flail)
Plaguecaster
Chaos Sorcerer - Force Sword
Daemon Prince with Wings
5 Blightlord Terminators - 2 Power Axes, 2 combi-bolters, 2 combi-flamers, heavy flamer, Power Maul/Icon, Power Fist, Chainfist
5 Blightlord Terminators - 5 Combi-bolters, 4 Power Fists, Power Axe, Reaper Autocannon
5 Blightlord Terminators - 2 Combi-bolters, Power Sword, Lightning Claw, 2 paired LCs, Chainfist, Reaper Autocannon
Plague Surgeon
Noxious Blightbringer
7 Plague Marines - Power Fist, 2 Plasma Guns
7 Plague Marines - Power Fist, 2 Plasma Guns
7 Plague Marines - Power Fist, 2 Meltaguns
7 Plague Marines - Power Fist, 2 Meltaguns
20 Poxwalkers
3 Chaos Rhinos
3 Chaos Spawn
1 Bloat-Drone with Plaguespurters
Land Raider
Giant Chaos Spawn (actually a Reaper Bones Shub-Niggurath)
CSM Allies - Alpha Legion
Fabius Bile
Chaos Lord - Jump Pack, Pair of LCs
7 Chosen - 2 Power Fists, 2 Power Swords, Plasma Gun
5 Raptors - Power Sword, Plasma Gun
7 Havocs - Power Maul, Bolt Pistol, 4 Autocannons
7 Havocs - Power Maul, Bolt Pistol, 4 Heavy Bolters
3 Obliterators
Daemons
Herald of Nurgle
10 Plaguebearers - Icon, Instrument
10 Plaguebearers - Icon, Instrument
3 Nurgling Swords
3 Plague Drones - Icon
Not bad, manageable at least.
Things to do
- Figure out some way of not obliterating the beautiful Death Guard paint scheme on what have become generic CSM allied units and applying it.
- Converting up another Herald of Nurgle for the Daemons.
Of this lot the non-FW or FW component using units are... the Daemon Prince, Typhus, Fabius Bile, the Plaguecaster, the Blightbringer, the Chaos Spawn, the Giant Spawn, the Poxwalkers, the Bloat-Drone, the Chosen and the Obliterators.
I do really need to paint up the Reaper Shubby though as the Giant Spawn is amazingly hilarious for its cost.
Just kind of irked that I need to figure a way to mark the non Death Guard units for events and the like....
Though Heavy Bolters would make amusing counts-as Blight Launchers....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/12 21:50:08
Subject: Re:Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [News: Codex reviews / Deathshroud Terminators preorder Sept 16th]
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Fresh-Faced New User
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GUYS! GUYS! GUYS!!
Don't freak out, but.
Winters SEO just posted his review :3
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/12 21:58:20
Subject: Re:Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [News: Codex reviews / Deathshroud Terminators preorder Sept 16th]
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Wel does he say anything new?
I can't watch a 55 minutes long video.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/12 22:06:19
Subject: Re:Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [News: Codex reviews / Deathshroud Terminators preorder Sept 16th]
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Bluebeard wrote:Wel does he say anything new?
I can't watch a 55 minutes long video.
I think we've pretty much had everything leak already now, but it's nice to get confirmation and see the codex layout and such.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/12 22:26:10
Subject: Re:Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [News: Codex reviews / Deathshroud Terminators preorder Sept 16th]
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Charax wrote:
<Death Guard> <Daemon> <Primarch> <Disappointment> <Overpriced> <Internally Weeping>
If it's any consolation he sounds by any measure violently unpleasant to play against, to the point where I have a hard time imagining I'd enjoy a game where an opponent brought him.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/12 22:50:02
Subject: Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [News: Codex reviews / Deathshroud Terminators preorder Sept 16th]
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Cultist of Nurgle with Open Sores
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Yeah, just the combo of -1t aura & curse of the Leper psychic power is enough to get my nurglings cackling.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/13 01:46:51
Subject: Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [News: Codex reviews / Deathshroud Terminators preorder Sept 16th]
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
Australia
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Does anybody know how many flails can be taken in a Blightlord unit? Can't recall exactly how the various reviews described it. Is it 0-2 per unit, or maybe 1 per 5?
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The Circle of Iniquity
The Fourth Seal
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/13 02:51:02
Subject: Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [News: Codex reviews / Deathshroud Terminators preorder Sept 16th]
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Can we confirm that the Plague Buggy thing can be in squadrons but the flying drones cannot?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/13 03:29:00
Subject: Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [News: Codex reviews / Deathshroud Terminators preorder Sept 16th]
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
Australia
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H.B.M.C. wrote:Can we confirm that the Plague Buggy thing can be in squadrons but the flying drones cannot?
Yep 100%
Feels like a little bit of a missed opportunity, having squadrons of them with the same +1 to hit when you had 3 as the haulers would have been sick.
Still not sure if I'm going to be running fleshmowers or heavy blight launchers on them; 6 shots at 4+ seems a little underwhelming to me, although I suppose they're only 134 points.
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The Circle of Iniquity
The Fourth Seal
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/13 04:01:09
Subject: Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [News: Codex reviews / Deathshroud Terminators preorder Sept 16th]
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Do we know yet what the fleshmower costs to add to a Bloat Drone?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/13 04:59:24
Subject: Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [News: Codex reviews / Deathshroud Terminators preorder Sept 16th]
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Virules wrote:Do we know yet what the fleshmower costs to add to a Bloat Drone?
I also would love to see the Terminator options menu and the flesh mower upgrades. No one has posted the points costs yet oddly. I am curious upgrad costs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/13 05:09:53
Subject: Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [News: Codex reviews / Deathshroud Terminators preorder Sept 16th]
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Terminators are 1 in 5 can take one of 3 ranged special weapons and 1 in 5 can take the plague flail. They all have combo bolters (can be other combi weapons) and either balesword or bubotic axe. I assume costs are same as for plague marines.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/13 05:26:36
Subject: Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [News: Codex reviews / Deathshroud Terminators preorder Sept 16th]
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Frightening Flamer of Tzeentch
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So does the fleshmower replace the plague spitters and the plague probe, or does it just replace the plague probe?
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Aftermath can be calculated.
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