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anyone remember how much the plague marine kit is going to be in AU$ ?...I think I remember it being mentioned here, but I have no idea how many pages of bickering I'm gonna have to wade back through to find it again...

(I checked the OP, and I could only find the £ price, which never converts in any kind of logical way to AU$)

AUD$84 or AUD$85.

The same as 10 Mk.III Marines, or 10 Rubric Marines, or 15 Space Wolves (15!!!), or 10 Firewarriors (w/3 Drones), or 10 Mk.IV Marines, or 20 Kairic Acolytes, or 10 Orc Boarboyz, or 20 Savage Orcs, or more expensive for many more posable kits with more miniatures included.

All for 7 Plague Marines.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
And you're aware that there's a box of 7 Plague Marines that costs as much as other army's infantry kits that both have more options and more posability? You know the Plague Marine box is 7 models, right?

And considering their eagerness to promote that £25 Plague Brethren set to make up the numbers to 10....so, GW is pushing for us to pay £55 for a Troops choice.

That's beyond Sisters of Battle levels of insanity. They pay £50 for a METAL sisters squad.

Like...

Seriously...

WTF?!

I am glad I held back on purchasing more DG after getting the DI and 3 easy to build Plague Marines. I guess I will play them as a small detachment with my DC army, as I can't justify supporting this release model.

Glad there's only (rightfully and properly) Seven in the box. Now I wont have 3 wasted models.

 Mousemuffins wrote:
Glad there's only (rightfully and properly) Seven in the box. Now I wont have 3 wasted models.

If it was seven at a lower price point that might be feasible.

This is seven sub-par models at a higher price point. This is pretty terrible. The Blightlord Terminators and Deathshroud are BARELY better than the snapfits from DI...I have no faith for these.

honestly, I prefer the DI plague marine sculpts to what I've seen from the actual plague marine kit so far...and really, if I can't manage a couple of weapon swaps, what am I? ...so, yeah, I've just bought 2 more death guard halves of dark imperium off ebay...for AU$20 more than 2 plague marine kits...yes, I'll have to to some converting, and the stuff won't come with some options and whatnot, but I can convert that stuff, I have plenty of spare ork choppas/axes/etc that would work just fine...I can turn a spare LoC into a debatably better typhus, DIY some fleshmowers for drones, etc, etc.

 DarkStarSabre wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
And you're aware that there's a box of 7 Plague Marines that costs as much as other army's infantry kits that both have more options and more posability? You know the Plague Marine box is 7 models, right?

And considering their eagerness to promote that £25 Plague Brethren set to make up the numbers to 10....so, GW is pushing for us to pay £55 for a Troops choice.

That's beyond Sisters of Battle levels of insanity. They pay £50 for a METAL sisters squad.

Like...

Seriously...

WTF?!

They also promoted the Easy to Build set to make up the numbers to 10.

I really like the models, there are a lot of nice sculpts. It may not be perfect and I never expected it to be but the release has fulfilled a lot of wishes I had when I started DG in 2013

A selection of PM photos - TheMawr on Disqus

THX Warhams-77 for the overview. B2 aka "the frogman" is my favourite.
I may add:


EDIT: Forget it, that is D2.

Warhams-77 wrote:
I really like the models, there are a lot of nice sculpts. It may not be perfect and I never expected it to be but the release has fulfilled a lot of wishes I had when I started DG in 2013

A selection of PM photos - TheMawr on Disqus

Hey Warhams, what do the letters actually mean? are those the legs used and suggest that the torso's are separate from the legs?

The letters represent the legs, hence 7 letters. The torsos are separate. I think you can best see it at E, G and F.

I count at least 9 different breast plates. The initial 7 and the ones from D2 and G2. A2 and E2 also look different.

 Papa-Schlumpf wrote:
The letters represent the legs, hence 7 letters. The torsos are separate. I think you can best see it at E, G and F.

not the same as the blightlord terminators then, great!

 Hive City Dweller wrote:
People are getting their models in and already a few interesting conversions that improve the Typhus sculpt are online.

This one is my favorite: (Credit to http://bitteroldpainters.blogspot.com)

Spoiler:

This is really encouraging, and it seems like it didn't take a crazy amount of cutting to do the repose. I like the scythe arm down like this way more, both for looks and because he'll fit in a case better. Hopefully I can still fit the fly swarm on there, even if it needs to be bent or re-directed slightly. You all complaining about the nurgling buddy on his belly are bad people, though.

 Prometheum5 wrote:

 Hive City Dweller wrote:
People are getting their models in and already a few interesting conversions that improve the Typhus sculpt are online.

This one is my favorite: (Credit to http://bitteroldpainters.blogspot.com)

Spoiler:

This is really encouraging, and it seems like it didn't take a crazy amount of cutting to do the repose. I like the scythe arm down like this way more, both for looks and because he'll fit in a case better. Hopefully I can still fit the fly swarm on there, even if it needs to be bent or re-directed slightly. You all complaining about the nurgling buddy on his belly are bad people, though.

Indeed, especially since the old model had the same Nurgling there. Those conversions show that the model has lots of potential to look cool. I'm just not sure if I want to buy a 30€ infantrymodel only to cut it and make it look like my old beloved Metaltyphus ;-)

 Mousemuffins wrote:
Glad there's only (rightfully and properly) Seven in the box. Now I wont have 3 wasted models.

A good loadout fot PM is 5 with three specials. Now, I started in 3rd so I see my squads in multiples of 7 but let's not fool ourselves here. Especially at that price.

On a more positive note, I am now sold of Typhus. One can work on the model and the pose, apparently. Also is true that the Nurgling was on the old model. A bit like with Ahriman and Kharn they (wisely) kept more or less the old concept, pose excluded.

 Kaiyanwang wrote:

 Mousemuffins wrote:
Glad there's only (rightfully and properly) Seven in the box. Now I wont have 3 wasted models.

A good loadout fot PM is 5 with three specials. Now, I started in 3rd so I see my squads in multiples of 7 but let's not fool ourselves here. Especially at that price.

Blasphemy.

 Denny wrote:

 Kaiyanwang wrote:

 Mousemuffins wrote:
Glad there's only (rightfully and properly) Seven in the box. Now I wont have 3 wasted models.

A good loadout fot PM is 5 with three specials. Now, I started in 3rd so I see my squads in multiples of 7 but let's not fool ourselves here. Especially at that price.

Blasphemy.

I think one should leave options to fluffy players but to less fluffy ones, too. Also observe the $-per-model.
Said this, I am building the squads 7 at time, even if in a more competitive environment I could be forced to use 5 men teams or big blobs to exploit psycho-buffs and stratagems.

Also, at least is not 9!

 Kanluwen wrote:

 DarkStarSabre wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
And you're aware that there's a box of 7 Plague Marines that costs as much as other army's infantry kits that both have more options and more posability? You know the Plague Marine box is 7 models, right?

And considering their eagerness to promote that £25 Plague Brethren set to make up the numbers to 10....so, GW is pushing for us to pay £55 for a Troops choice.

That's beyond Sisters of Battle levels of insanity. They pay £50 for a METAL sisters squad.

Like...

Seriously...

WTF?!

They also promoted the Easy to Build set to make up the numbers to 10.

That's even less feasible....

Because one's a champion by default, one's a special weapon. You literally get 1 viable single plague marine.

Touting either of those options is pretty bad to be honest.

I think that a lot of this argument comes down to the language that is used. People need to present their OPINIONS as their PERSONAL OPINION, rather than broad statements of FACT.

For example:

 DarkStarSabre wrote:

 Mousemuffins wrote:
Glad there's only (rightfully and properly) Seven in the box. Now I wont have 3 wasted models.

If it was seven at a lower price point that might be feasible.

This is seven sub-par models at a higher price point. This is pretty terrible. The Blightlord Terminators and Deathshroud are BARELY better than the snapfits from DI...I have no faith for these.

This is presented as a fact for what is effectively 3-4 OPINIONS.

Conversely

Bluebeard wrote:


In a business like this, it's normal that things are rushed. You have the design phase, prototypes, production, development, marketing, etc., each with their own deadlines and all of them scheduling months ahead. And that's for a single release, then you have to insert it in a wider yearly release schedule.

A mere one week delay can cause huge problems. So yeah things are always rushed. I can't think of any big videogame, movie, toy you name it that wasn't rushed.

Well there's some (thinking of Mad Max Fury Road) but they are the exception, not the rule. Companies this big have generally tight deadlines and have to follow them, there's no "it'll come out when it's ready".

This could be taken as dismissing legitimate concerns where there are areas for improvement and saying "Yeah well whatever". Not that it was the intent obviously but I can see how people would react.

However I think that the following posts do it well

 Luciferian wrote:
I personally love the sculpts and the overall aesthetic they went with, and I'm annoyed at the lack of customization but I'm used to converting things. The pricing is a bit much for me to justify being "all in" on this release, though. I was originally going to buy all of my army as genuine NIB GW product so I could play it at the GW store or wherever I wanted to, but I'm inclined to cut some corners now.

I really like this post as it has a nice balance of positive statements and legitimate, specific, negative criticisms without making them an absolute statement of fact.

I also really like the following:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
It's strange that that a vehicle that has, essentially, Dreadnought weapons wasn't given a few other Dread-like options. I mean, looking at the Helbrute sprues shows off how simple the weapons are.

Given all GW can do with CAD, it's bizarre that they'd release something so option-less.

It states an opinion and explains WHY they are upset with a specific outcome. They do not imply a judgement of others who dont value what they are looking for, nor are they insulting the preferences of other individuals who actually are more than satisfied with what they are getting.

We also have to recognize that people have a very different approach to how they value money and other aspects of their purchase. A dollar is not always worth a dollar and what people expect for that dollar is very different. It is impossible to make a factual objective comparison between the value of two things that applies to more than the individual specifically.

Now obviously there are individuals in here who feel entitled to gak on everyone elses parade and boo on you for disagreeing with their right to be a gakhole. But remember no one is entitled to a response from you and no one is entitled to having their opinion read. If you are tired of the negativity just block those who are consistent in reducing your enjoyment of the hobby. I have a solid 5-10 people that I have just blocked over the years and I find that I have a much better experience. I have been on here for nearly a decade and there are only that many that have reached that level.

Back on topic I agree I am kind of disappointing with some of the options that are denied to chaos players simply by virtue of them not having the same extensive range of options that have historically been available to Regular marines. As a DG player and a Deathwatch player it is kinda annoying.

However I am really happy that GW is making progress, releasing faqs quickly and other things. The fact that we have a FAQ before the entire range is out is amazing to me.

I'm pretty sure at this point that when The Khorne Berzerkers, receive a new kit, they will pass from 12-man box to a 8-man box and from 31€ to 45€!

 Galas wrote:
I'm pretty sure at this point that when The Khorne Berzerkers, receive a new kit, they will pass from 12-man box to a 8-man box and from 31€ to 45€!

Maybe, but they will be beefed up to eleven!!!

I hope that the EC come first, because I´m interested in how GW will picture their debauchery.

Well A similiar release with lots of new kits for World Eaters and Emperor's Children would be most welcome

I would also love to know when they will get to the Nurgle Daemons release

The Blight Hauler should be next week.

 Papa-Schlumpf wrote:

 Galas wrote:
I'm pretty sure at this point that when The Khorne Berzerkers, receive a new kit, they will pass from 12-man box to a 8-man box and from 31€ to 45€!

Maybe, but they will be beefed up to eleven!!!

I hope that the EC come first, because I´m interested in how GW will picture their debauchery.

GW picturing their debauchery? With a 6-man box of course.

 Dryaktylus wrote:

 Papa-Schlumpf wrote:

 Galas wrote:
I'm pretty sure at this point that when The Khorne Berzerkers, receive a new kit, they will pass from 12-man box to a 8-man box and from 31€ to 45€!

Maybe, but they will be beefed up to eleven!!!

I hope that the EC come first, because I´m interested in how GW will picture their debauchery.

GW picturing their debauchery? With a 6-man box of course.

Well yeah, the other 4 models will be their female sisters sex slaves duh! /s

 Papa-Schlumpf wrote:
THX Warhams-77 for the overview. B2 aka "the frogman" is my favourite.
I may add:


EDIT: Forget it, that is D2.

Edit: You meant the Terminator?

That's a nice helmet. I read somewhere on Disqus that people found 12 different PM chest plates in the photos but I dont know if that is actually correct. 9 would be okay, too

@Warhams77: Nah, I meant the PM in the centre. I haven´t recoginzed him on the other pics, till posting.

Also I would dig six man/shemale EC box with breastplates showing 1 to 6 breasts. Feels about right for them. I hope the guys in pink and red get a full new range, like the puke and ash boys.

But for now lets see wen we get the hauler and when the demons are released. Also this year there will be no HH box, so maybe they will bring something else, to benefit from the christmas sales.

 Papa-Schlumpf wrote:
Also this year there will be no HH box, so maybe they will bring something else, to benefit from the christmas sales.

I figure they'll have necromunda to cover that?

 ZoBo wrote:

 Papa-Schlumpf wrote:
Also this year there will be no HH box, so maybe they will bring something else, to benefit from the christmas sales.

I figure they'll have necromunda to cover that?

Is it due for the end of the year? After Shadespire I have no idea, what they will release. Nurgle demons are coming, maybe this year, mabe next.
Is there a schedule somewhere?

 Papa-Schlumpf wrote:

 ZoBo wrote:

 Papa-Schlumpf wrote:
Also this year there will be no HH box, so maybe they will bring something else, to benefit from the christmas sales.

I figure they'll have necromunda to cover that?

Is it due for the end of the year? After Shadespire I have no idea, what they will release. Nurgle demons are coming, maybe this year, mabe next.
Is there a schedule somewhere?

Necromunda is coming in November.