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2017/10/07 00:52:29
Subject: Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [Preorder Oct 7th: Plague Marines, Biologus Putrifier - 1st post]
I really like the new Icon Bearer. I think it's a good update on the old metal one. Classic look with great modernisation. The Champ I can take or leave, but the most interesting things about the miniature are what's optional: The head, which I don't like, can be replaced. The two Nurglings, which I know a lot of people here* have problems with, are not sculpted onto his armour or anything like that, so are optional.
I want to take all the 'optional' Nurglings from these kits and make custom Nurgling bases. Or a little squad of unique looking Nurglings.
As for the 7-for-the-price-of-10 box, the price is still insane and yes, anyone who defends has been blinded by the strobe light GW installed near their mirrors and smoke machines, but even I can admit that the actual kit itself has more than I was expecting. I refer specifically to the chest pieces. Some here have expressed concern** over the abundance of big tentacled/toothed chest pieces, wishing for a more clean (or as clean as you can get with Nurgle) approach to their armour. It would appear that the kit does exactly that. Still has 1 of each gun, which is pretty lame but not unexpected. I'm happy for the chest options. It's what I was hoping for when these were first announced way back in that teaser video.
*Don't see me coming down on them for being "wrong" about that, whether I agree or not. But keep smacking me because I take offence to having to pay for 10 models yet only getting seven. **See above.
Warhams-77 wrote: Next Saturday will most likely be the Blight-Hauler's preorder date (top left)
How the hell did it get up there?
Galas wrote: I believe after Death Guard, Necromunda and Shadowspire, we'll have a Nurgle Daemon release, so bless nurgle Streetsamurai, your despair is a worthy offering for the Great Father!
Nurgle Daemon release. Hmm... I wonder what they'll add? I really hope those Stag Beetle things from the DI artwork make an appearance. Either that or snail cavalry.
NinthMusketeer wrote: 'HBMC is always negative' is a strawman that I did use once, and it wasn't appropriate when I did. It's also an argument I didn't make here, though that didn't stop him from making a, in his words, "bold faced lie" that I did.
Like so many others your biggest problem is that you're discussing me, rather than the points I'm making. Look past the username to things I'm actually saying. It'll help you make better replies than just borderline personal attacks and, has been pointed out, the usual cavalcade of strawmanning and goalpost shifting (that's not specifically or only you, BTW).
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We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
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H.B.M.C. wrote: Hmm... I wonder what they'll add? I really hope those Stag Beetle things from the DI artwork make an appearance. Either that or snail cavalry.
my bet is BoN & GUO ... if we are lucky pestigor and herald with palanquin too
if we are lucky this guy too
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2017/10/07 02:13:25
Subject: Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [Preorder Oct 7th: Plague Marines, Biologus Putrifier - 1st post]
I wonder if it's going to be about that size? Cause that's huge. At least a large oval base. Maybe a new daemon between Beast of Nurgle and GUO?
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PourSpelur wrote: It's fully within the rules for me to look up your Facebook page, find out your dear Mother Gladys is single, take her on a lovely date, and tell you all the details of our hot, sweaty, animal sex during your psychic phase.
I mean, fifty bucks is on the line.
There's no rule that says I can't.
SilverAlien wrote: Personally I'm kinda not pleased about the kit. I'm not pleased by a 7 man kit that lacking in options (for the unit, not random tat to put on them). I mean, really, toss out two marines and their clutter, add an extra of the relevant options.
Also, does the idea of losing poses but gaining random tat you can hang on them not bother anyone? More options for chest pieces and pauldrons don't actually make models look that distinct, when the options are clearly extreme distinct duplicates distributed differently. They have that issue of really unique looking guys with weird bits of repeated uniqueness.
This box is actually way worse than I thought, and my expectations weren't exactly high. I legitimately have no idea why I would choose these rather than converting something else.
You know when everyone kept shooting me down in this thread mate?
This has been my point the entire time.
They're not unique if it's the same pose with slightly different details. It's an approach that would work fine for old 8th ed Fantasy with rank and file but really is jarring in 40k where models do not rank up and each model can effectively be seen and scrutinised.
Going to need to have a proper look at those sprues later today but...
Ugh.
It's what I feared. Fixed legs and torso backs, variety being your choice of torso front. Which completely kills cross range compatability - deliberately excluding the FW conversion kits. It also rather disappointingly writes off my idea of using the more mutated bits and mixing with a Possessed Box to do some DG Possessed.
Now only a CSM player.
2017/10/07 04:04:56
Subject: Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [Preorder Oct 7th: Plague Marines, Biologus Putrifier - 1st post]
So the PM box looks way better like expected. I can build a squad without bellymouths. The number of icons is OK, not the overkill from the DI box.
As Warhams-77 aleady stated, with this and a squad from DI, everybody should be able to fill in their troops. If they have the skill, to duplicate weapons.
As for skills: how are you going to paint your Biologus? I may need a tutuorial for his wings aka all that containers. If anybody knows one, please show me. I want my fly-angel to be superb.
Does somebody know a publisher for flyswarms, that could fit the DG style?
And what are this tentacle things in the terrain in some of the promotion shots? They are not part of the Eldar deadworld stuff.
The brethren are also on their last chance in Germany. Maybe we will see our starter collection sooner than we thought.
My mind is melting and I take everything about GW shying the expense of a third sprue for Plague Marines back. I still don't like the way they cut the bodies and only getting seven instead of a nornal squad size, but off to the zoom tool I go to count the options and bits for creating three more with Blightking and MK 3 bodies.
Edit: Soooo not that many useful bits. Mhm. But split-up shoulder pads taking up space...and the fan favourite Blightking butt-chainmail
I hope the demons release will have more useful gribbly bits and those small bellycrawler demon thingies from the DG pics are size-wise possible to combine with Skitarii and ghouls to make creepy bent, twisted and hobbling Nurgle cultists.
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Looking for a Skaven Doomwheel banner to repair my Nurgle knights.
2017/10/07 10:15:13
Subject: Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [Preorder Oct 7th: Plague Marines, Biologus Putrifier - 1st post]
Galas wrote: I believe after Death Guard, Necromunda and Shadowspire, we'll have a Nurgle Daemon release, so bless nurgle Streetsamurai, your despair is a worthy offering for the Great Father!
Nurgle Daemon release. Hmm... I wonder what they'll add? I really hope those Stag Beetle things from the DI artwork make an appearance. Either that or snail cavalry.
I'm torn between calling that beast Nurglelysk or Nurgleratops.
And, personal creation (And position ) with this release:
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Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote: Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
I don't even play Nurgle but...this box is so bad ! 7 for 40€, and the legs and torsos are moulded together ?!
What the hell ? How are we supposed to customize OUR models we paid ? I hope it does NOT start a trend...
I really enjoy cross range compatibility.
Sorry for you, Nurgle guys. This is what you get by betraying the God-Emperor.
godardc wrote: I don't even play Nurgle but...this box is so bad ! 7 for 40€, and the legs and torsos are moulded together ?!
What the hell ? How are we supposed to customize OUR models we paid ? I hope it does NOT start a trend...
I really enjoy cross range compatibility.
Sorry for you, Nurgle guys. This is what you get by betraying the God-Emperor.
dont feel sorry, im pretty happy with the models, though more marines in the box would have been nicer. The amount of detail on them means you wouldnt be able to have as much posability and the like when compared to say standard marines. And ther is a lot of detail.. . Some may not like it but i think its great, each and every DG looks like a character, lots of individuality
I'm not going to re-read the lunacy that is the last few pages of this thread, but I'd be very surprised if anyone actually said that. Even that one guy banging on about how relatively difficult it might be for an Inquisitor to acquire power armour, I don't think even that guy said that.
2017/10/07 12:36:51
Subject: Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [Preorder Oct 7th: Plague Marines, Biologus Putrifier - 1st post]
Arbitrator wrote: Plague Brethren went Last Chance to Buy because of course.
Not like since day one has this tag been on there:
Available while stocks last.
I'll be interested to see whether they become available by themselves without the art stuff or if they just get left to (no pun intended) rot in terms of the mold.
2017/10/07 13:03:11
Subject: Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [Preorder Oct 7th: Plague Marines, Biologus Putrifier - 1st post]
Arbitrator wrote: Plague Brethren went Last Chance to Buy because of course.
Not like since day one has this tag been on there:
Available while stocks last.
I'll be interested to see whether they become available by themselves without the art stuff or if they just get left to (no pun intended) rot in terms of the mold.
Actually, the tag was never there until today.
I know because when they first went up I scoured to check at any hint it was a, at least in the short term, limited release.
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2017/10/07 13:05:22
Subject: Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [Preorder Oct 7th: Plague Marines, Biologus Putrifier - 1st post]
Mortarion - building him without the rock base. Going to be a fun balancing act but the idea is to just cover his base in skulls and murky water. Thank you based Skull Pack. No issues with him as a kit. I don't mind Morty one bit.
Plagueburst Crawler - Bit of a tight two sprues, seems that the weapons use the same connection so...easier perhaps for swapping in and out if you want? Still like the model - the 360 on the website makes it look so much better - even GW's packaging is lacklustre but I think 90% of that is the paintscheme they went with.
Tallyman - head is seperate. Nice. Can't do much with the rest but he was always the most OK with me of the characters.
Plague Surgeon - picked up on a whim. Regretting it. The head and hood are split and pretty much mandatory. Everything is fixed and there seems to be no real options there at all. I'll stick to using FW 30k Apothecaries and just do this one as is.
Now only a CSM player.
2017/10/07 14:15:22
Subject: Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [Preorder Oct 7th: Plague Marines, Biologus Putrifier - 1st post]
Arbitrator wrote: Plague Brethren went Last Chance to Buy because of course.
But what about the molds? I mean the prices are so high because the molds cost so much money. I wonder what the excuse is this times if the molds don't cost so much now.
Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.
Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?
Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong".
2017/10/07 14:39:49
Subject: Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [Preorder Oct 7th: Plague Marines, Biologus Putrifier - 1st post]
Arbitrator wrote: Plague Brethren went Last Chance to Buy because of course.
Not like since day one has this tag been on there:
Available while stocks last.
I'll be interested to see whether they become available by themselves without the art stuff or if they just get left to (no pun intended) rot in terms of the mold.
Actually, the tag was never there until today.
I know because when they first went up I scoured to check at any hint it was a, at least in the short term, limited release.
I knew right from the beginning they were a limited release. I don't remember where I read it, but GW must have it clear somewhere because I snatched a box right away even though I won't have time (or money) to do a Death Guard army for a long time to come.
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2017/10/07 15:06:36
Subject: Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [Preorder Oct 7th: Plague Marines, Biologus Putrifier - 1st post]
Arbitrator wrote: Plague Brethren went Last Chance to Buy because of course.
Not like since day one has this tag been on there:
Available while stocks last.
I'll be interested to see whether they become available by themselves without the art stuff or if they just get left to (no pun intended) rot in terms of the mold.
Actually, the tag was never there until today.
I know because when they first went up I scoured to check at any hint it was a, at least in the short term, limited release.
I knew right from the beginning they were a limited release. I don't remember where I read it, but GW must have it clear somewhere because I snatched a box right away even though I won't have time (or money) to do a Death Guard army for a long time to come.
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2017/10/07 15:16:44
Subject: Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [Preorder Oct 7th: Plague Marines, Biologus Putrifier - 1st post]
Arbitrator wrote: Plague Brethren went Last Chance to Buy because of course.
But what about the molds? I mean the prices are so high because the molds cost so muc money. I wonder what the excuse is this times if the molds don't cost so much now.
>b-but it's a business! T-they need to make money!
>d-don't be so entitled! Y-you just want everything for nothing!
2017/10/07 15:31:18
Subject: Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [Preorder Oct 7th: Plague Marines, Biologus Putrifier - 1st post]
Arbitrator wrote: Plague Brethren went Last Chance to Buy because of course.
But what about the molds? I mean the prices are so high because the molds cost so muc money. I wonder what the excuse is this times if the molds don't cost so much now.
>b-but it's a business! T-they need to make money!
>d-don't be so entitled! Y-you just want everything for nothing!
If GW is that expensive for you, then how come peecha chakka no wookie boonowa tweepi solo? Ho ho ho ho hooooo.
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote: Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
Hive Fleet Hercual - 6760pts
Death Guard 5100 pts.
Daemons 3000 pts.
) with this release:
It was tainted by 7th edition?
