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 dan2026 wrote:
What happened to the new Great Unclean One everyone said was coming?
And the new Beasts?

These will most likely be covered in the Nurgle Rotbringers army for Age of Sigmar.

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 dan2026 wrote:
What happened to the new Great Unclean One everyone said was coming?
And the new Beasts?

These will most likely be covered in the Nurgle Rotbringers army for Age of Sigmar.

Rotbringers are a mortal army and doesn’t have any daemons in it.

broxus wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 dan2026 wrote:
What happened to the new Great Unclean One everyone said was coming?
And the new Beasts?

These will most likely be covered in the Nurgle Rotbringers army for Age of Sigmar.

Rotbringers are a mortal army and doesn’t have any daemons in it.

There's a bit of a disconnect here.

We know there is a book coming soon-ish(no dates) which will feature the Nurgle Rotbringers. It will probably have a fancy name that will not be "Nurgle Rotbringers". Look at the way that Blades of Khorne and Disciples of Tzeentch have been done.

The book will include Daemons.

zamerion wrote:
on the 21st there is nothing announced

Maybe eldar codex + hauler + some nurgle surprise?

A Nurgle surprise, like a letter from an STD clinic you weren't expecting?

 Kanluwen wrote:

broxus wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 dan2026 wrote:
What happened to the new Great Unclean One everyone said was coming?
And the new Beasts?

These will most likely be covered in the Nurgle Rotbringers army for Age of Sigmar.

Rotbringers are a mortal army and doesn’t have any daemons in it.

There's a bit of a disconnect here.

We know there is a book coming soon-ish(no dates) which will feature the Nurgle Rotbringers. It will probably have a fancy name that will not be "Nurgle Rotbringers". Look at the way that Blades of Khorne and Disciples of Tzeentch have been done.
The book will include Daemons.

Not saying you are wrong.
But where was the AoS Nurgle book confirmed?

The 14th is Shadespire preorder, the 21st is Eldar, the 28th is more Shadespire, the 4th of November is Nids, There was a rumour a while ago that Necromunda was the 18th (same week as bloodbowl) so there may be the last of the deathguard on the 11th. Demons have been long rumoured to be coming in 2018

 dan2026 wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

broxus wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 dan2026 wrote:
What happened to the new Great Unclean One everyone said was coming?
And the new Beasts?

These will most likely be covered in the Nurgle Rotbringers army for Age of Sigmar.

Rotbringers are a mortal army and doesn’t have any daemons in it.

There's a bit of a disconnect here.

We know there is a book coming soon-ish(no dates) which will feature the Nurgle Rotbringers. It will probably have a fancy name that will not be "Nurgle Rotbringers". Look at the way that Blades of Khorne and Disciples of Tzeentch have been done.
The book will include Daemons.

Not saying you are wrong.
But where was the AoS Nurgle book confirmed?

Atia's been mentioning that it's on the docket for awhile. I think she said that there will be new Daemons coming in 2018, with the AoS Nurgle release, like how Disciples of Tzeentch went.

so was the plague hauler a myth?

It is in the Codex, its rules and model...

And what Chikout said

Spent a bit of time with the plague marine kit now, built up my first 7. There's no denying that each marine feels individual at the small warand scale. If you are only interested in bolters and one type of special weapon, you'll probably hate the kit after 2 boxes though as you will be using some of the same stuff over the army.

But with the spare bits I have left I can start on box 2 and make sure to use those parts instead so I don't get too many similar poses. All my built plague marines spread out look really cool, much more so than tactical marine kits where most guys are holding their bolters in the ready pose.

Put in the starter sets and you've got about 20-25 plague marines that are all looking unique and cool before you really have to worry about repetition across the army.

That's good to know, I was also planning to buy two boxes and have as much variety as possible.

I also got the Dark Imperium ones, the Plague Brethren and the easy to build ones for that reason.

Kijamon wrote:
Spent a bit of time with the plague marine kit now, built up my first 7. There's no denying that each marine feels individual at the small warand scale. If you are only interested in bolters and one type of special weapon, you'll probably hate the kit after 2 boxes though as you will be using some of the same stuff over the army.

But with the spare bits I have left I can start on box 2 and make sure to use those parts instead so I don't get too many similar poses. All my built plague marines spread out look really cool, much more so than tactical marine kits where most guys are holding their bolters in the ready pose.

Put in the starter sets and you've got about 20-25 plague marines that are all looking unique and cool before you really have to worry about repetition across the army.

Yeah, going beyond that point I think is the problem. It's easy enough to get the Dark Imperium, the easy-to-build, and the Dark Brethren, then you add the unique Plague Champion and Standard Bearer and you've got 15 unique Plague Marines. Add the 7 from the Plague Marine box and you're at 22. Add a second box and with some extra conversion you should be able to get to 25-26 totally unique Plague Marines. That's a lot of money to spend just to make every Plague Marine unique, though, and if you ever face another Death Guard player, they'll have all the same models as you.

I'm not a fan of the whole mono-pose business. I'd rather have models that are easier to convert. I've seen some people take a hobby knife to the various Plague Marine models and do some interesting things with them, but that's a lot of extra work for something, in my opinion, should be easy to do right out of the box. Even if it's just swapping arm poses and head directions like the Primaris Intercessors, at least I can mix quite a few more to make a bunch of unique ones.

But, all we have to do is wait for the Myphtic Blighthauler. I'm pretty surprised it's not out yet. I'm tired of Death Guard and am ready for something else to get some attention.

 aracersss wrote:
so was the plague hauler a myth?

GW wants you to buy that big Christmas savings box with another 20 or so Poxwalkers. Got to add a little incentive in there.

Wonderwolf wrote:

 aracersss wrote:
so was the plague hauler a myth?

GW wants you to buy that big Christmas savings box with another 20 or so Poxwalkers. Got to add a little incentive in there.

If they did that, I think my brother would be buying at least two...he's nutters about Poxwalkers.

Wonderwolf wrote:

GW wants you to buy that big Christmas savings box with another 20 or so Poxwalkers. Got to add a little incentive in there.

hum...Someone was also seeing the lack of option as an indication it would be in a game box, but the 3 haulers' rules would make much less sense if it was not availbale in a single box...

Spent today kitbashing DI Death Guard and the new box of Plague Marines and some other bits.. biggest take-away from today ... OW! Spikes everywhere!

So far, I have no duplicate marines and with a second box of the PM, I can do a few more..

really sad that the old marines are thin and scrawny compared to these big beefy guys..

drbored wrote:

Kijamon wrote:
Spent a bit of time with the plague marine kit now, built up my first 7. There's no denying that each marine feels individual at the small warand scale. If you are only interested in bolters and one type of special weapon, you'll probably hate the kit after 2 boxes though as you will be using some of the same stuff over the army.

But with the spare bits I have left I can start on box 2 and make sure to use those parts instead so I don't get too many similar poses. All my built plague marines spread out look really cool, much more so than tactical marine kits where most guys are holding their bolters in the ready pose.

Put in the starter sets and you've got about 20-25 plague marines that are all looking unique and cool before you really have to worry about repetition across the army.

Yeah, going beyond that point I think is the problem. It's easy enough to get the Dark Imperium, the easy-to-build, and the Dark Brethren, then you add the unique Plague Champion and Standard Bearer and you've got 15 unique Plague Marines. Add the 7 from the Plague Marine box and you're at 22. Add a second box and with some extra conversion you should be able to get to 25-26 totally unique Plague Marines. That's a lot of money to spend just to make every Plague Marine unique, though, and if you ever face another Death Guard player, they'll have all the same models as you.

I'm not a fan of the whole mono-pose business. I'd rather have models that are easier to convert. I've seen some people take a hobby knife to the various Plague Marine models and do some interesting things with them, but that's a lot of extra work for something, in my opinion, should be easy to do right out of the box. Even if it's just swapping arm poses and head directions like the Primaris Intercessors, at least I can mix quite a few more to make a bunch of unique ones.

But, all we have to do is wait for the Myphtic Blighthauler. I'm pretty surprised it's not out yet. I'm tired of Death Guard and am ready for something else to get some attention.

The plague marine kit has far, far more than 7 unique plague marine options. Between alternate chests and arms there are dozens from that kit alone, plus the ten from starter & easy build. And really if you are running 30+ marines and a few of them happen to look the same as some other guy from another unit, it's pretty nitpicky to find fault in that. Look at the duplication players have to deal with from miniatures in any other company.

Edit: From looking at the sprue it seems that the backpacks are fully interchangeable, meaning there's probably over hundred unique 'sculpts' possible. The poses may be duplicated, but 'multi pose' kits are the same three-ish poses repeated anyway (sorry but I don't count a five degree difference in arm angle as a different pose).

This blog post from one of the sculptors of the new Nurgle kits might be of interest for some people. I only skimmed this thread for images, maybe it was already posted?

Nice article.

Is there a reason he had to work with so many people? Or is it just a case of no one person can do an entire range themselves that way.

Given the pace of releases I imagine it was a tight schedule.

Interesting to see so many new names (to me anyway) attached to those designs, they've certainly expanded greatly beyond a few stable names in the last couple of years.

 Clanan wrote:
The wings on this one look smaller; is that just perspective? Otherwise I'd say they're more preferable to the above toddler jet wings.

Having looked on the website and seen different shots I actually like the model. As for the wings, I think it's actually a little add-on in order to prevent being sued for the mode bearing a rather closeness to the GW plague drones. Theirs have wings, they aren't drones, they are airplanes, really different~

Looking at the bits and pieces of the model, it can be built without the little wings as they are both separate attachments to the turbines, and personally I think it was designed for you to also have them removed and still have the model looking whole (and possibly better but would have to see this in practice to fully decide).

Only downside is that by removing the wings you then have to find a way to mount the little bomb and missile/gun attached to either wing (if you want them). Not a bad alternative but would have to see it all done or even in person to see if it would pass for a drone instead of a plane.

Mario wrote:
This blog post from one of the sculptors of the new Nurgle kits might be of interest for some people. I only skimmed this thread for images, maybe it was already posted?

Wow no mention at all about the plague hauler. I am starting to worry this is one of those models we will never see.

 BrookM wrote:
Interesting to see so many new names (to me anyway) attached to those designs, they've certainly expanded greatly beyond a few stable names in the last couple of years.

There are 30 designers in the studio now. They have had that many for at least 5 years. The large number of designers working on the Deathguard is probably a combined result of the size of the release and a tight production schedule.

broxus wrote:

Mario wrote:
This blog post from one of the sculptors of the new Nurgle kits might be of interest for some people. I only skimmed this thread for images, maybe it was already posted?

Wow no mention at all about the plague hauler. I am starting to worry this is one of those models we will never see.

They have specifically said that there won't be rules for units with no model. We'll see it sometime, just no telling when.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Nice article.

Is there a reason he had to work with so many people? Or is it just a case of no one person can do an entire range themselves that way.

It seems he was the lead sculptor and director (of the sculpting side of it) on that project so the job probably entailed more than just sculpting. It probably included some degree of project management and coordination with the other sculptors/designers/illustrators/writers. Sometimes you have to delegate and sometimes another person is better for a certain job (preferences, style, ways to work around manufacturing constraints, who knows what else). It was probably a scheduling issue. If you have one person sculpt everything then all other parts of project development kinda have to take breaks or wait for the lone sculptor to keep up. With more people (and he still did a good chunk of it or collaborated with others) things can keep going at whatever pace the combination of the involved departments allows.

There has been a more detailed article (Designers' Notes) in this month's White Dwarf. Link to photos in the first post, among the latest updates

Edit https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/3210/732375.page#9634172

 Clanan wrote:
The wings on this one look smaller; is that just perspective? Otherwise I'd say they're more preferable to the above toddler jet wings.

Spoiler:

Hyenas are super fast these days.

 puma713 wrote:

broxus wrote:

Mario wrote:
This blog post from one of the sculptors of the new Nurgle kits might be of interest for some people. I only skimmed this thread for images, maybe it was already posted?

Wow no mention at all about the plague hauler. I am starting to worry this is one of those models we will never see.

They have specifically said that there won't be rules for units with no model. We'll see it sometime, just no telling when.

If there's already rules, especially with descriptions, expect to see sooner rather than later when 3rd parties would have got first dip on it. They don't likely want to do that mistake again.

Hello, did the 3 new bloat drone fronts from the kit fit easily on the Dark Imperium drone ? thank you