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2017/12/27 09:30:07
Subject: Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [News: Dec 26 - New Great Unclean One model preview]
The thing to remember is GW paint style is largely to show the model details first, great colour scheme second. If they went with some of the colour schemes people have shown it would be harder to tell what on the model is sculpted and what is an added effect by the painter.
I also think they keep the paint style simple enough to replicate rather than ones that require tremendous skill.
More on topic though I really like the option variety in this kit, maybe one day slaanesh will get this love.
2017/12/27 10:47:50
Subject: Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [News: Dec 26 - New Great Unclean One model preview]
Slaanesh and Khorne releases in the next two years according to Atia. Thebiggesthat had heard the Slaanesh wave would come end of 2018. And GW's Adam Troke mentioned during one of the Q3 2017 WarhammerTV livestreams that they are indeed working on new stuff for Slaanesh.
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2017/12/27 11:35:15
Subject: Re:Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [News: Dec 26 - New Great Unclean One model preview]
Can’t wait for Slaanesh to get the Nurgle/Tzeentch treatment. Slaanesh is my favourite god but the models don’t live up to it. Hopefully the KoS looks like the art from Gathering Storm:
2017/12/27 12:35:17
Subject: Re:Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [News: Dec 26 - New Great Unclean One model preview]
So after a (almost) Nurgle year, we start the new year with... more Nurgle?
Well it seems that they are releasing absolutely everything for Death Guard and Nurgle in not-Fantasy. So as other user mentioned before, i hope then they can move on other armies and miniatures that long need an update. (Eldar aspect warriors, basic chaos space marines, basic orks, some ork vehicles, decent imperial guard kits, imperial guard tanks, changing many finecast miniatures to plastic, etc, etc...). This year has been (almost) only Nurgle DG stuff and space marines "bigger-better-taller" primaris releases. It's getting a bit boring. And for the 10 codex released so far, there are only new miniatures for 4 of them. And for DA and BA they are really a upgrade (primaris!) sprue and one model (primaris!) for each one, so i would not count them... Then again, I hope the next year we can see proper codex releases with actual new miniatures and kits, as used to be...
I think that the not-fantasy Nurgle stuff was already good enough and with a nice variety. Yet they release more figures for them. So i guess... Can we expect the same treatment for the other gods? Tzeentch and the Thousand Sons supposedly have had their releases already, but is not anywhere near the level of attention and quantity of models the DG/Nurgle is getting. I hope... no, i expect that with the TS codex they will release some more kits for them, similar to what DG/Nurgle has had. There are many units and models that they could release for them, and a chance to make nice army list without Magnus would be great.
The same for Slaanesh. Slaanesh miniatures and units have been neglected for quite long time. I expect we will see a new plastic Keeper of secret and more units for the Slaanesh demons. As well as model kits for Emperor's Children and World Eaters. The khorne berzekers are now really old models that need a nice update, i think. Khorne demons and fantasy stuff i think is in a much better status and it would surprise me (in a bad way) if they release yet more miniatures for not-fantasy and they won't release anything for World Eaters...
Oh well...
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2017/12/27 15:00:10
Subject: Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [News: Dec 26 - New Great Unclean One model preview]
Basic orks don't need an upgrade - none of the plastic infantry kits do.
7 Ork facts people always get wrong: Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other. A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot. Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests. Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books. Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor. Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers. Orks do not have the power of believe.
2017/12/27 15:21:23
Subject: Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [News: Dec 26 - New Great Unclean One model preview]
Jidmah wrote: Basic orks don't need an upgrade - none of the plastic infantry kits do.
They do look a bit dated, but not as bad as the Imperial Guard or Chaos Space Marines. Those models look so dated that they are plain ugly next to modern miniatures. They really need an update.
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2017/12/27 15:31:08
Subject: Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [News: Dec 26 - New Great Unclean One model preview]
Jidmah wrote: Basic orks don't need an upgrade - none of the plastic infantry kits do.
Basic Chaos Marines do imho.
I'd argue that basically any basic infantry kit that isn't generic Marines, Thousand Sons, Fire Warriors, Scions, or Plague Marines could use it.
Guard could use a mold refresh on the Cadians and a resculpt on the Catachans, along with both incorporating a HWT and Special Weapon options in full for the squad.
Necrons could use new Warriors.
Tyranids could use new Hormagaunts and Termagants--if nothing else with the heads being put as one and Hormagaunts given some scenic bits to be 'scuttling' over to balance them a bit better.
Etc
Etc
2017/12/27 15:32:04
Subject: Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [News: Dec 26 - New Great Unclean One model preview]
It’s the third day of Nurgle – a very special day indeed, given the significance of the number 3 to the God of Plagues! Today, we’re checking out a couple of the new Heralds available to Nurgle armies:
Previously, Nurgle only had one kind of Herald available, known appropriately as a Herald. However, these guys only represented some of the myriad servants available to the God of Plagues, and with the new Codex: Chaos Daemons and Battletome: Maggotkin of Nurgle, Heralds are getting more diverse than ever.
Our favourite has to be the Sloppity Bilepiper, a miniature that sums up the repugnant jollity of Nurgle perfectly. Armed with a set of jolly gutpipes and a marotter (crafted from the remains of the previous Sloppity Bilepiper), these Heralds are the victims and carriers of the Chortling Murrain, a disease that causes its victims to laugh themselves to death. Sloppity Bilepipers cavort and joke with Nurglings, Great Unclean Ones and Beasts of Nurgle (but not Plaguebearers, who lack a sense of humour) and strike horror into the hearts of their mortal foes.
Meanwhile, the Spoilpox Scrivener is a downright dour creature by comparison… It’s the job of the Spoilpox Scriveners to ensure that Plaguebearers meet their tallies, a job they accomplish by relentlessly browbeating and bullying their counterparts with a barrage of insults and commands. On the tabletop, the Spoilpox Scrivener will ensure that your Plaguebearers fight harder, making them a handy strategic lynchpin for the rest of your army.
Make sure to come back tomorrow, when we’ll be taking a look at some of Nurgle’s more mortal (but no less deadly!) servants.
2017/12/27 15:49:08
Subject: Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [News: Dec 26 - New Great Unclean One model preview]
mrhappyface wrote: Doesn't the bilepiper look a bit jolly for a plaguebearer?
So, the fluff blurb they give us is that the Bilepiper is a Plaguebearer who doesn't associate with other Plaguebearers. He follows Nurglings, Beasts of Nurgle, and Great Unclean Ones avoiding other Plaguebearers because "they don't have a sense of humor".
2017/12/27 15:53:22
Subject: Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [News: Dec 26 - New Great Unclean One model preview]
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote: Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
2017/12/27 15:54:18
Subject: Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [News: Dec 26 - New Great Unclean One model preview]
One Herald for your Plaugebois, the other for your big bois. That kinda fixes last editions "which locus do I take" issue by just saying flat out "this one is for these units and this one is for these units".
2017/12/27 16:12:52
Subject: Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [News: Dec 26 - New Great Unclean One model preview]
I disagree. Necron Warriors are fine as is. They don't need to look all fancy and unique. They are supposed to look basic and bland, and I'd rather they not look Egyptian or have ornamentation.
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2017/12/27 17:15:45
Subject: Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [News: Dec 26 - New Great Unclean One model preview]
I disagree. Necron Warriors are fine as is. They don't need to look all fancy and unique. They are supposed to look basic and bland, and I'd rather they not look Egyptian or have ornamentation.
Necron Warriors do need a new kit. One that better matches the Immortals by doing away with the green plastic rod and doesn't take a four armed Genestealer to get the arms to line up properly.
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2017/12/27 17:29:48
Subject: Re:Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [News: Dec 26 - New Great Unclean One model preview]
Warpspy wrote: So after a (almost) Nurgle year, we start the new year with... more Nurgle?
Well it seems that they are releasing absolutely everything for Death Guard and Nurgle in not-Fantasy. So as other user mentioned before, i hope then they can move on other armies and miniatures that long need an update. (Eldar aspect warriors, basic chaos space marines, basic orks, some ork vehicles, decent imperial guard kits, imperial guard tanks, changing many finecast miniatures to plastic, etc, etc...). This year has been (almost) only Nurgle DG stuff and space marines "bigger-better-taller" primaris releases. It's getting a bit boring. And for the 10 codex released so far, there are only new miniatures for 4 of them. And for DA and BA they are really a upgrade (primaris!) sprue and one model (primaris!) for each one, so i would not count them... Then again, I hope the next year we can see proper codex releases with actual new miniatures and kits, as used to be...
I think that the not-fantasy Nurgle stuff was already good enough and with a nice variety. Yet they release more figures for them. So i guess... Can we expect the same treatment for the other gods? Tzeentch and the Thousand Sons supposedly have had their releases already, but is not anywhere near the level of attention and quantity of models the DG/Nurgle is getting. I hope... no, i expect that with the TS codex they will release some more kits for them, similar to what DG/Nurgle has had. There are many units and models that they could release for them, and a chance to make nice army list without Magnus would be great.
The same for Slaanesh. Slaanesh miniatures and units have been neglected for quite long time. I expect we will see a new plastic Keeper of secret and more units for the Slaanesh demons. As well as model kits for Emperor's Children and World Eaters. The khorne berzekers are now really old models that need a nice update, i think. Khorne demons and fantasy stuff i think is in a much better status and it would surprise me (in a bad way) if they release yet more miniatures for not-fantasy and they won't release anything for World Eaters...
Oh well...
While I love some of the new mini’s like the tree and the cool rider guy on horse I have to agree.
Also on a separate note I think the building in the right is just the blight tree in front of some ruins.
I sure hope other factions get this love and attention. Poor de nerf some cool stuff. I doubt they will.
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2017/12/27 17:39:23
Subject: Re:Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [News: Dec 26 - New Great Unclean One model preview]
Warpspy wrote: So after a (almost) Nurgle year, we start the new year with... more Nurgle?
Well it seems that they are releasing absolutely everything for Death Guard and Nurgle in not-Fantasy. So as other user mentioned before, i hope then they can move on other armies and miniatures that long need an update. (Eldar aspect warriors, basic chaos space marines, basic orks, some ork vehicles, decent imperial guard kits, imperial guard tanks, changing many finecast miniatures to plastic, etc, etc...). This year has been (almost) only Nurgle DG stuff and space marines "bigger-better-taller" primaris releases. It's getting a bit boring. And for the 10 codex released so far, there are only new miniatures for 4 of them. And for DA and BA they are really a upgrade (primaris!) sprue and one model (primaris!) for each one, so i would not count them... Then again, I hope the next year we can see proper codex releases with actual new miniatures and kits, as used to be...
I think that the not-fantasy Nurgle stuff was already good enough and with a nice variety. Yet they release more figures for them. So i guess... Can we expect the same treatment for the other gods? Tzeentch and the Thousand Sons supposedly have had their releases already, but is not anywhere near the level of attention and quantity of models the DG/Nurgle is getting. I hope... no, i expect that with the TS codex they will release some more kits for them, similar to what DG/Nurgle has had. There are many units and models that they could release for them, and a chance to make nice army list without Magnus would be great.
The same for Slaanesh. Slaanesh miniatures and units have been neglected for quite long time. I expect we will see a new plastic Keeper of secret and more units for the Slaanesh demons. As well as model kits for Emperor's Children and World Eaters. The khorne berzekers are now really old models that need a nice update, i think. Khorne demons and fantasy stuff i think is in a much better status and it would surprise me (in a bad way) if they release yet more miniatures for not-fantasy and they won't release anything for World Eaters...
Oh well...
Agreed. Abd the direction they took nurgle in is really dissapointing. The blight Kings and maggots lords were so much better than the current happy, cutesy prancey stuff
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2017/12/27 17:52:40
Subject: Re:Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [News: Dec 26 - New Great Unclean One model preview]
Agreed. Abd the direction they took nurgle in is really dissapointing. The blight Kings and maggots lords were so much better than the current happy, cutesy prancey stuff
I disagree, I miss this aspect of Nurgle that they shoved aside when 3rd edition Grimdark Grimdarkness took over everything.
2017/12/27 18:02:18
Subject: Re:Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons [News: Dec 26 - New Great Unclean One model preview]
Agreed. Abd the direction they took nurgle in is really dissapointing. The blight Kings and maggots lords were so much better than the current happy, cutesy prancey stuff
I disagree, I miss this aspect of Nurgle that they shoved aside when 3rd edition Grimdark Grimdarkness took over everything.
I agree with you. Though Nurgle needs a proper gross color scheme to really put it into effect.