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Sooooo pumped for those Nords. They look amazing.

Also excited about the next wave of expansions for the existing armies!

Oh, and The Dweghom. I need those in my life...

Nords look okay, but they are too muscled in the arms to the point they look out of proportion to me.

I think that's kind of the point though? Nords aren't actually human, iirc, they're the descendants of gods. So of course they are going to have some absurd musculature.

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 Gallahad wrote:
Nords look okay, but they are too muscled in the arms to the point they look out of proportion to me.

Indeed, the Blooded have muscles like the branches of the great life tree as the very blood of the Gods run through their veins. Most other nord are more in proportion like the stalkers and Jarl

"So, we had to ask ourselves: Where do we see ourselves in three years?... ...and this isnt even all of what we'll see in 2!"

Finally, some art of the fantasy Greeks!

Ok, so I'm assuming that the hoplite is from the city states, the burning angel is from the Dominion, the big guy is the Wugrum or tribes or whatever, and the burning dude is from the weavers?

Is the 3rd one in the artwork this settings version of Orcs?

I vaguely remember them saying how their version of Ors were all about hunting and had a great sense of smell. I think there was even a picture of them on the hunt with giant mamoth type creatures being ridden. It did look very good.

Can't wait for all the goodness to unfold. Looks so good! Tough choice...

That is a pretty compelling view of the Conquest world.

Wow! Now I have no idea which way to go. Nice problem to have.

Para Bellum have announced their first event at Adepticon.

It's a casual 2000 point event with the promise of lots of pizza, goodie bags and minis for all participants.

Original FB post : https://m.facebook.com/ParaBellumWarGames/photos/a.1819603021683848/2341061746204637/?type=3&source=48

Would love to go for this and LotR.

7000+ kilometers is a bit too far. Otherwise I'd go!

I would have chosen 1000-1500 point armies. It's the first "official tournament" and the troop variety is still a bit low to go for 2k armies...

We've got 16 players in Louisville area now, and will be kicking off this campaign in January.

The adepticon thing looks fun but i'm not buying 2000 points of whats out now, only to have to scrub it later because i won't use it all when the full line drops. We're at 1250 right now waiting on new units.

That's a good point. Might fire them an email. With the laid back vibe they are going for and the benefits that come with gamers needing to pack fewer models lowering the game size might be wise.

The poor guy that wants to play Nords with only 2 characters, 2 troops and the Jotnar available

"I'll take 4 of each...".

1000 points for the tournament would be reasonable, and probably even better to promote the game as having larger armies all duplicating units and looking the same isn't great both in terms of gameplay and aesthetic.

I would agree and suggested a 1000 - 1250 point event in vanguard email but was declined. Thats fine, I hope it goes well for them there are people excited for it so it will happen regardless.

Out of curiosity just had a look at what is currently available for this game, as I am always looking for nice plastic fantasy kits. All I can say is: I don't think this game will survive... those prices are absolutely disgusting. 12 plastic Dwarfs for €39. Not even GW dare charge that for so little.

I would like to see the game do well, but for that to happen those prices really need to come down a few bob.

I concur. The prices and the starter set I ordered turned out to be pretty disappointing. Any plans I had to buy dwarfs, knights or anything else were instantly scrapped when I saw the prices for boxes.

Any excitement I had for building armies died when I saw that the sprues had no optional bits or bling or extra arm or head choices. Only the knights seem to give a hobbyist any joy, and they are amazing. The footsoldiers are beyond boring (and they look like they were sculpted for 25mm and blown up to 35mm), not at all worth the money. I have literally seen more exciting bottle caps. (The gothic orange juice ones.)

Then there’s the total lack of a hook in the starter. There was no fluff in the little rule book, not even flavor text. I keep hearing how great the background of this setting is, so why is it not there to lure me in?

I really wanted Conquest to be the one, but it turns out I was just in love with being in love.

As usual Bob does a good job of summarizing a lot of my similar feelings, and we've had this conversation before.

A lot of the models feel like they were enbiggened, but then their details were not further refined for the larger size. Plus the footsloggers are just kind of boring. They could have embellished them a bit more. As it stands I think Fireforge's fantasy men at arms do a better job at representing the typical human grunts in the field.

I do like the Spire stuff. The archers were quite cool but the sprue composition made getting the parts off a chore. I look forward to seeing what other weirdness they have coming.

I still think it's early to call it a day on this one, but it's nowhere near the pricepoint I would prefer to see a mass battle game at either. I still want some Dweghom but they're just too pricey for what you receive at the moment.

 stonehorse wrote:
Out of curiosity just had a look at what is currently available for this game, as I am always looking for nice plastic fantasy kits. All I can say is: I don't think this game will survive... those prices are absolutely disgusting. 12 plastic Dwarfs for €39. Not even GW dare charge that for so little.

If you check the current dwarf miniatures from the aos range, you have 10 minis for 40 or 45€ (arkanauts, vulkites). I think the Conquest miniatures are on the higher end of the spectrum regarding price (no discussion there) but when comparing to other companies, doing so with GW is never a good idea.

Also important to note: Conquest minis have a larger scale. Humans often comparable to SCE, for example (and we know how prices work for that....).

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

Then there’s the total lack of a hook in the starter. There was no fluff in the little rule book, not even flavor text. I keep hearing how great the background of this setting is, so why is it not there to lure me in?

The little rule book is suppose to be just that, a print version of the rules available on the web. I guess it is common in starter sets. I e-mailed them about fluff content and plans to release books or whatever, but they said it is far away, if it ever happens.
All the fluff released is online, on their website, videos or pdfs. They explained that the release schedule and fluff introduction follows a specific story arc, they don't want to drop 100 pages of fluff and that's it.
The Nepenthe story(available as pdfs and on videos) shows well the beginnings of the conflict between the 100 Kingdoms and Spire, serving the introduction of the core box release. They did the same for the Dweghom when released.
Putting out fluff for free for everyone to check is something that seems reasonable enough, can't blame them. I also like how it follows a logical chronology within the Ea world, instead of just random piles of fluff. A good way of telling an unfolding story.




For those interested in the game, the Nords army list is available on line (ah, I wish I had to buy a book to have access to it ).
https://www.para-bellum.com/conquest-rules-armylist-faqs/

 stonehorse wrote:
12 plastic Dwarfs for €39. Not even GW dare charge that for so little.

GW: Challenge accepted.

VBS wrote:

 stonehorse wrote:
Out of curiosity just had a look at what is currently available for this game, as I am always looking for nice plastic fantasy kits. All I can say is: I don't think this game will survive... those prices are absolutely disgusting. 12 plastic Dwarfs for €39. Not even GW dare charge that for so little.

If you check the current dwarf miniatures from the aos range, you have 10 minis for 40 or 45€ (arkanauts, vulkites). I think the Conquest miniatures are on the higher end of the spectrum regarding price (no discussion there) but when comparing to other companies, doing so with GW is never a good idea.

Also important to note: Conquest minis have a larger scale. Humans often comparable to SCE, for example (and we know how prices work for that....).

Just checked the GW dwarfs... bloody hell fire! Ok, Conquest Dwarfs are slightly cheaper. However that doesn't make the price tag any more acceptable.

Oathmark still has some of the best valued plastic Dwarfs.

But Oathmark dwarfs don't have giant flaming automatons, dragon mounted cannons, dwarfs on fire strolling across the battlefield, balloon dwarfs, or naked ur- golden butt cheeked dwarfs.

I'll be getting a mini or two to show off but trying to focus on the first two factions for now. Very cool though.

https://www.para-bellum.com/what-is-new/nords-first-wave-details/?fbclid=IwAR0jvrF7dKv3BYB7IgAuxRXZ096lnO6qNFcUiVwZ25yNwXFh-ZF9IYkwGRY

I hate it when I glue true scale heads on heroic scale bodies... Anyway, I hope they have a lot of luck with the Nords. Sounds like there’s an eager market for them, so that’s good.

@VBS. Most starters DO come with fluff, though. Dropzone Commander’s starter set rulebook made me a fan of the setting for life, and though I’ve never played a game of DZC (and only one of DFC), I’m still spending. Mantic, Frostgrave and Warlord games have managed to put out printed fluff in easily digestible chunks that do a lot to keep me interested in their games’ developments. Even the freakin’ Robogear starter came with a fluff pamphlet, and it was surprisingly compelling in a “Soviet sci fi of the 30’s” kind of way.

I wish Conquest had made the effort to meet me halfway with a starter set pamphlet in the box I bought so that I could be inspired to make the effort to read their background online and maybe even buy more minis. Hell, I’d buy a trade paperback of pure fluff if they sold one.


@Highlord, the Avatars of War plastic dwarf Slayers is still my favorite dwarf kit of all time. Wish they’d make more.

The adeptacon event is sold out. Though they are requesting higher capacity from the organisers. Will keep you updated.


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 stonehorse wrote:

VBS wrote:

 stonehorse wrote:
Out of curiosity just had a look at what is currently available for this game, as I am always looking for nice plastic fantasy kits. All I can say is: I don't think this game will survive... those prices are absolutely disgusting. 12 plastic Dwarfs for €39. Not even GW dare charge that for so little.

If you check the current dwarf miniatures from the aos range, you have 10 minis for 40 or 45€ (arkanauts, vulkites). I think the Conquest miniatures are on the higher end of the spectrum regarding price (no discussion there) but when comparing to other companies, doing so with GW is never a good idea.

Also important to note: Conquest minis have a larger scale. Humans often comparable to SCE, for example (and we know how prices work for that....).

Just checked the GW dwarfs... bloody hell fire! Ok, Conquest Dwarfs are slightly cheaper. However that doesn't make the price tag any more acceptable.

Oathmark still has some of the best valued plastic Dwarfs.

Dont forget all the rule books and battle tomes you need to play. The Dweghom come with rules and army builder in the price