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New models revealed!

Sorcerer Kings: Mahut, Favored of Hormuz and Dhanur Disciples

Old Dominion: Centaur Prodromoi and Kerykes

Love that ivory elephant construct and those centaurs are sick! I hope that the City States receive some living ones in the future.

That elephant really takes me back to my grandma’s glass cabinet with all the fancy bowls, geisha dolls and crystal birds.

Anyway, what is the figure reclining on a couch? Is it plastic or resin?

She's a version of a character to ride the Mahut as a special mastery option and she will be Resin

The porcelain giant chibi elephant isn't my thing but the person on the dais and the mechano-centaurs are cool. Is the person on the throne normal (by Conquest standards) size or a giant?

 warboss wrote:
The porcelain giant chibi elephant isn't my thing but the person on the dais and the mechano-centaurs are cool. Is the person on the throne normal (by Conquest standards) size or a giant?

Normal.

Thanks! And wow! That's a centerpiece model in what looks like a centerpiece model army in a centerpiece model game, lol.

Damn!

 warboss wrote:
The porcelain giant chibi elephant isn't my thing but the person on the dais and the mechano-centaurs are cool. Is the person on the throne normal (by Conquest standards) size or a giant?

FWIW, the centaurs aren't mechanically augmented as far as I'm aware; they're 'just' undead centaurs in fancy armour.

JimmyWolf87 wrote:
FWIW, the centaurs aren't mechanically augmented as far as I'm aware; they're 'just' undead centaurs in fancy armour.

Thanks. I looked initially on my phone and didn't zoom in. I assumed incorrectly!

The elephant is actually a construct.

Here's the lore:

Among the countless deaths that occurred during the Sorcerer King's evacuation, the death of the last elephant could perhaps have gone unnoticed had it not been Hormus’ own loyal steed who died in defense of his master. Since then the grief-stricken Sorcerer King has crafted and animated hundreds, if not thousands, of faithful stone replicas of his beloved steed. Each more grandiose than the last, they have all, thus far, disappointed him. Nevertheless he has gifted hundreds of them to his faithful subjects so that they might enjoy their protection like he once did. These ponderous stone constructs have been the bane of countless foes since, their brutal power a testament to the craft and might of the Sorcerer Kings.

JimmyWolf87 wrote:

 warboss wrote:
The porcelain giant chibi elephant isn't my thing but the person on the dais and the mechano-centaurs are cool. Is the person on the throne normal (by Conquest standards) size or a giant?

FWIW, the centaurs aren't mechanically augmented as far as I'm aware; they're 'just' undead centaurs in fancy armour.

The centaurs are apparently not undead, I can't find it now for some reason but the lore says they are one of the few living servants of Hazlia.

 caladancid wrote:

JimmyWolf87 wrote:

 warboss wrote:
The porcelain giant chibi elephant isn't my thing but the person on the dais and the mechano-centaurs are cool. Is the person on the throne normal (by Conquest standards) size or a giant?

FWIW, the centaurs aren't mechanically augmented as far as I'm aware; they're 'just' undead centaurs in fancy armour.

The centaurs are apparently not undead, I can't find it now for some reason but the lore says they are one of the few living servants of Hazlia.

I think you've got your wires crossed with Hashashins and Cultists. Both types of centaur have both Animated Vessel and Memories of Old, indicating they're undead. Well, as undead as any of the Old Dominion are, if we're going into lore technicalities.

what they are is not as undead
They didnt believe in Hazlia until they literally saw him fall from the sky right before the curse of undead. so their bodies are still fresh.

Recap of last night's livestream.

Big First Blood Changes and Balance pass on all factions
RPG is moving fast
New releases for the Dweghom next month including two resculpts (Flame Berserkers and Steelshaper)
5th Anniversary Founder's Exclusive is going to be a Fishgnome Riding a Cyborg Shark with a Lazer Eye lol

 caladancid wrote:

JimmyWolf87 wrote:

 warboss wrote:
The porcelain giant chibi elephant isn't my thing but the person on the dais and the mechano-centaurs are cool. Is the person on the throne normal (by Conquest standards) size or a giant?

FWIW, the centaurs aren't mechanically augmented as far as I'm aware; they're 'just' undead centaurs in fancy armour.

The centaurs are apparently not undead, I can't find it now for some reason but the lore says they are one of the few living servants of Hazlia.

Their lore and rules indicate quite strongly that they're undead. The distinction with the majority of the Old Dominion is that they effectively died and became undead at the same point so are relatively intact and retain all the physical function they had in life.

Oh ok I see the distinction now- unliving but not skeletal/mummified/whatever.

"While most who serve in the legions of the Old Dominion are mummified husks of their living selves – for faith in life is required to be raised into undeath, and countless faithful existed throughout the reign of the Dominion – such is not the case with the Centaurs. Those Kerykes and Prodromoi that were blessed with unlife were those that became faithful to him during his fall, having no time to decay and wither and being raised almost immediately after their death. As such, they now serve the Old Dominion with a most unique honor, belonging to the chosen few that retain their flesh-bound form while they venture further into unlife…"

That was the quote I was thinking about!

An easier way to confirm Old Dominion units are already dead is to check they have Animated Vessel on Army List. This tells us that the Centaurs are already dead, and the only living units are the Cultists and Hassasins.

There is still no lore that the Centaurs are completely extinct. So, I hope living Centaurs will be added to the City States. I don't like the City States cavalry, which is unremarkable, unlike the 100 Kingdom Orders.

vultute wrote:
An easier way to confirm Old Dominion units are already dead is to check they have Animated Vessel on Army List. This tells us that the Centaurs are already dead, and the only living units are the Cultists and Hassasins.

There is still no lore that the Centaurs are completely extinct. So, I hope living Centaurs will be added to the City States. I don't like the City States cavalry, which is unremarkable, unlike the 100 Kingdom Orders.

The devs have been pretty adamant that City States won't get Centaurs because they want to keep the aesthetic/silhouette for Old Dominion or something, and not confuse people. It's not a good reasoning, imo, but it's one they've consistently given when asked about it.

Given the existence of Buccephaloi and the minotaurs of the City States, the devs' statement is not convincing.
If centaurs can only exist in one faction, they should have belonged to the City States.
Old Dominions can keep their identity by having creepy corpses belong to them, even if they have fewer mythical creatures.

Minotaurs were integrated in the Dominion society. During the Fall, among those that fled and later founded the City States were a bunch of these Bred. This explains why the City States have Minotaurs.
Many Minotaurs also stayed back, particularly the Buccephaloi, and so became undead after the Fall. This explains why the Old Dominion has Minotaurs.
Centaurs were nomadic tribes, living isolated and being a nuissance, so not integrated in the Dominion society. They didn't run away along the rest of peoples that made it alive after the Fall. This explains why the City States have no Centaurs.
During the Fall, all the Centaurs were chillin' until getting crushed by fallen Hazlia. Moments before their death they became believers. This explains why the Old Dominion has Centaurs.

You might not like it, but it's all in the Lore.

First Blood update is live

Dweghom Flame Berserkers and Steelshaper re-sculpts plus a new unit and a monster.

If i am not mistaken The Dweghom have now a complete roster.

You are not mistaken

flame berserkers really needed a resculpt. those look nice.
I wonder if this means dweghs aint getting anything new for a long time (at least till other early factions also get completed) or if they'll keep pumping alternative/rescultps and new units on short term.
considering how much pb likes Raeghs, I think the latter.

Well, it wouldn't be the first time that PB has added a unit to an army if they did continue to expand the faction.

VBS wrote:
flame berserkers really needed a resculpt. those look nice.
I wonder if this means dweghs aint getting anything new for a long time (at least till other early factions also get completed) or if they'll keep pumping alternative/rescultps and new units on short term.
considering how much pb likes Raeghs, I think the latter.

PB has said a few times that the published rosters are not the final lists, they will keep iterating them over time with potential new models and the eventual inclusion of sub factions.

I know they want to add subfactions and stuff. Just wondering if they will prioritize a bit more finishing uncompleted rosters. Or if instead they keep adding new units to "finished" rosters before even completing the old ones.

To know if it will be another five years before we see all the Spire units

They have announced that 18 factions will be introduced, so I would like them to focus on completing the current roster and creating new factions.

New miniatures revealed!

City States: Andromachos, Sacred Band, Clockwork Hoplites

Exciting stuff!