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Nice to see that they turned it into a cashgrab...

Kudos to them, but damn, why not just leave them at the old scale.



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it has a pretty big league here, lots of imperial players, I am one of the few who likes rebels more
   
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We'll find out soon enough eh.

 AegisGrimm wrote:
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 Yodhrin wrote:
Again - people can keep pretending all they like, but the Clone Wars was not somehow more of a war than the Galactic Civil War.
It was demonstrably more of a war. We've seen it. In great detail.


And you're demonstrably wrong, as I've pointed out several times. You can't just arbitrarily dismiss all the material out there that shows the GCW was a far broader conflict than was shown on screen.


The real problem is that aside from the original trilogy, all the other material to show the Galactic Civil War as a full-on conflict have basically been taken out of canon.


Apart from the nuCanon novels. And the nuCanon comic book series'. And the nuCanon videogames. There's plenty of canon material demonstrating the Rebellion as a much larger entity than strictly what was shown onscreen in the OT, and the conflict between them and the Empire as being galaxy-wide and involving multiple simultaneous actions just like the Clone Wars. The Alliance didn't match the Empire being-for-being in terms of numbers, and they obviously didn't have the same level of strategic support, but to argue a large, well-organised, well-funded insurgency battling a superior occupying force using whatever tactics and equipment work in any given situation somehow doesn't count as a "proper" war as some have is just sheer farce.

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I feel like "shut up and take my money" is started to become "no, seriously; just give me something to spend money on". :(
   
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 LunarSol wrote:
I feel like "shut up and take my money" is started to become "no, seriously; just give me something to spend money on". :(


Yeah. A lot of the sculpts are on the poor side now, and there's always so much delay in waves that it's almost a struggle to keep FFG games alive in a community.
   
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I gotta say, sculpts-notwithstanding I'm impressed with the variety available so far. I'm viewing this from a "should I collect Star Wars minis and use my own rules or someone elses..." though, not even vaguely considering using Legion rules. No interest in an FFG style game.

But someone doing their own Star Wars game or skirmish should be pretty happy right now.
   
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the game has been out for 5 months and I think that for a company like FFG they have done a good job getting out units, being well balanced and a good pace.
   
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Neronoxx wrote:
 LunarSol wrote:
I feel like "shut up and take my money" is started to become "no, seriously; just give me something to spend money on". :(


Yeah. A lot of the sculpts are on the poor side now, and there's always so much delay in waves that it's almost a struggle to keep FFG games alive in a community.

I am also disappointed at the apparent drop in sculpt quality and (seeming) scale inconsistencies with the newer figures. I am definitely in a "wait and try to see them in the flesh" mode whereas before it was an automatic purchase.

If they can't get their act together in those areas, then I will personally be giving up on Star Wars wargaming. At least in a commercial sense. I do have zBrush and a couple 3d printers...

   
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Weirdly it seems that people who went to GenCon and picked up Han early are saying that the sculpt is actually fine? It seems bizarre for FFG's official preview model to be so weird, but it's good to hear that it'll look better in person.

Here's a picture from Discord user "PCGamerPirate" - the resemblance is IMO very clear despite this being a less technically sophisticated paint job than what FFG was showing us!

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We'll find out soon enough eh.

The problem is they first showed a pretty basic paintjob where some combination of lighting, angle, and paint colour conspired to make the model look like it had a ham with a toupe for a head. When the reaction to that was really negative, they had a more elaborate job done on the model, but while that made it look less like a ham, it didn't make it look very much like Han Solo.

If you look at "naked" pics of the model, it's actually not a bad likeness.

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Their paintjobs on human skin are just bad in general and I have no Idea why. Their vehicles and Stormtroopers look fine.
   
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Well, he doesn't look as shockingly bad as I first thought from Fantasy Flight's official announcement picture.

Going to be interesting how the generic Imperial Commander turns out, then. Considering at least some of us aren't sure if that's a dude or a chick like on the box art...

At least it looks like organic parts are sculpted well enough and the problem is with the paint job. It could be way, way worse.

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Yeah, I have no idea what's going on with their paint jobs. Every time I see models in person done by other people, not like top tier painters or anything, the models look way better.
   
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 Geifer wrote:
Well, he doesn't look as shockingly bad as I first thought from Fantasy Flight's official announcement picture.

Going to be interesting how the generic Imperial Commander turns out, then. Considering at least some of us aren't sure if that's a dude or a chick like on the box art...

At least it looks like organic parts are sculpted well enough and the problem is with the paint job. It could be way, way worse.


IIRC someone who was at GenCon said the generic Imperial Officer is female and sculpted to look like Governor Pryce from Rebels:



And yeah it's really bizarre how... not awesome some of the official paint jobs are. Part of me wonders whether it's intentional to try and portray an achievable product for a more average hobbyist, but their revised Han paintjob was technically quite advanced aside from the bad face. That said, I'd rather have a good miniature and a bad official paint job than a bad miniature that looks nice on the box...
   
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Cool. Bob confirmed, sideburns debunked!

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 Kingsley wrote:
Weirdly it seems that people who went to GenCon and picked up Han early are saying that the sculpt is actually fine? It seems bizarre for FFG's official preview model to be so weird, but it's good to hear that it'll look better in person.

Here's a picture from Discord user "PCGamerPirate" - the resemblance is IMO very clear despite this being a less technically sophisticated paint job than what FFG was showing us!

Spoiler:


Wow...they really did toggle on big head mode for Han with that sculpt.

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Rogue Spirit
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https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2018/11/19/rogue-spirit/

   
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Sod it, Rogue one expansions.... I’m in for sure. Been holding off on this one but damn they have me now.
   
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How does Star wars scale against 40k? Thinking if some conversions..
   
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barnacle111 wrote:
How does Star wars scale against 40k? Thinking if some conversions..


Now that I've watched Jyn spin for a couple of minutes I can answer this.

A Stormtrooper is about as tall as a Primaris. A Rebel Fleet Trooper is about half a head shorter.

Legion models have similarly heroic proportions as 40k models, so should fit stylistically reasonably well.

Unlike Cadians, Legion models were sculpted by someone with a basic understanding of human anatomy.

Legion models usually come in very few parts, so you need to do some cutting and have limited poses. On the bright side, that hardened PVC stuff they're made of is easy to work with.

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Oh crap, Rogue One releases are the last thing my Wallet needed for Xmas.

Definitely getting that Jynn Erso at the very least.
And any of the other Main Cast.
   
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 Geifer wrote:
barnacle111 wrote:
How does Star wars scale against 40k? Thinking if some conversions..


Now that I've watched Jyn spin for a couple of minutes I can answer this.

A Stormtrooper is about as tall as a Primaris. A Rebel Fleet Trooper is about half a head shorter.

Legion models have similarly heroic proportions as 40k models, so should fit stylistically reasonably well.

Unlike Cadians, Legion models were sculpted by someone with a basic understanding of human anatomy.

Legion models usually come in very few parts, so you need to do some cutting and have limited poses. On the bright side, that hardened PVC stuff they're made of is easy to work with.


Dakka's own Agis (AAN) posted this on the FFG forums back in March


Jyn and her crew are must buys for me. Really hoping for more Rogue One goodies (Cassian, K-2SO, Krennic and Shoretroopers, Saw Gerra and his crew, etc)

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 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
Oh crap, Rogue One releases are the last thing my Wallet needed for Xmas.

Definitely getting that Jynn Erso at the very least.
And any of the other Main Cast.


Good thing is unless you plan on preordering and waiting a few months until you get it, I don't see the need for such an early preorder.

SW Legions is definately going in a great direction with this.

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That said, we were always going to get this. No company would pass up a money maker like miniatures for Rogue One.

Thankfully they at least seem to be sticking to the "cooler" artwork from movies and TV and avoiding some of the EU bloat to fill waves of X-Wing.

   
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Jyn's Tonfa looks like a weird portable table leg. The pathfinders look good though.
   
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So 2 things. 1 to the people that are complying about the release pace. FFG has released something and the majority of the months multiple things every month since the game came out. So it has had a solid and better than average release rate. Yes it’s not GW speed but come on no one releases things at that pace. 2 the next release for for the imps will has shown to be death troopers and Krentic. All and all the game is really fun and well balanced. If you are on the fence get in. They are going to continue this release pace for at least till March/April as the the first 12 month of releases was locked in prior to the game shipping. Things got backed up by 1 month to due to out paced demand and rushed reprints. Then at some point this year Clones wars will be coming out adding a 3,4 faction. So get in have fun and let’s see the great stuff that will come out.
   
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 griffen127 wrote:
So 2 things. 1 to the people that are complying about the release pace. FFG has released something and the majority of the months multiple things every month since the game came out. So it has had a solid and better than average release rate. Yes it’s not GW speed but come on no one releases things at that pace. 2 the next release for for the imps will has shown to be death troopers and Krentic. All and all the game is really fun and well balanced. If you are on the fence get in. They are going to continue this release pace for at least till March/April as the the first 12 month of releases was locked in prior to the game shipping. Things got backed up by 1 month to due to out paced demand and rushed reprints. Then at some point this year Clones wars will be coming out adding a 3,4 faction. So get in have fun and let’s see the great stuff that will come out.


Huh Death troopers, hmm do I wait to get Xmas out of the way or try to sneak the game in to the house without the wife spotting it.
   
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 xKillGorex wrote:
 griffen127 wrote:
So 2 things. 1 to the people that are complying about the release pace. FFG has released something and the majority of the months multiple things every month since the game came out. So it has had a solid and better than average release rate. Yes it’s not GW speed but come on no one releases things at that pace. 2 the next release for for the imps will has shown to be death troopers and Krentic. All and all the game is really fun and well balanced. If you are on the fence get in. They are going to continue this release pace for at least till March/April as the the first 12 month of releases was locked in prior to the game shipping. Things got backed up by 1 month to due to out paced demand and rushed reprints. Then at some point this year Clones wars will be coming out adding a 3,4 faction. So get in have fun and let’s see the great stuff that will come out.


Huh Death troopers, hmm do I wait to get Xmas out of the way or try to sneak the game in to the house without the wife spotting it.



I would definitely try to get the core set while it's really cheap this week.
   
 
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