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Miniature market has a crazy good sale right now.
   
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Amazon UK has the core set at 28% discount, Wayland has 30% - I ordered several 'in stock' expansions from Wayland on Sunday, they all turned up yesterday (Friday) - 30% off with free postage (UK) so pretty happy - until the wife nabbed them as they are Christmas presents for me...

   
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 griffen127 wrote:
So 2 things. 1 to the people that are complying about the release pace. FFG has released something and the majority of the months multiple things every month since the game came out.


I think the big mistake has been the parallel releases not coming out in parallel. They did this:

Early May: Imperial
Late May: Rebel
June: Barricades
July: Objectives
August: Rebel
September: Imperial
October: Turrets for both
November: Imperial

It created a 5 month gap in Imperial releases shortly after launch. I think the other problem is just that due to the length of time they announce things, for most of the game's existence there has been more stuff "spoiled" than there were options to play the game. Before the Sept releases, Imperials had 6 unit options available, but FFG had announced another 6 releases. It created a sense in a lot of people I know that the game wasn't really "out" yet and certainly has the problem that everyone had played all the options to death before there was any real variety to work with.
   
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 LunarSol wrote:
 griffen127 wrote:
So 2 things. 1 to the people that are complying about the release pace. FFG has released something and the majority of the months multiple things every month since the game came out.


I think the big mistake has been the parallel releases not coming out in parallel. They did this:

Early May: Imperial
Late May: Rebel
June: Barricades
July: Objectives
August: Rebel
September: Imperial
October: Turrets for both
November: Imperial

It created a 5 month gap in Imperial releases shortly after launch. I think the other problem is just that due to the length of time they announce things, for most of the game's existence there has been more stuff "spoiled" than there were options to play the game. Before the Sept releases, Imperials had 6 unit options available, but FFG had announced another 6 releases. It created a sense in a lot of people I know that the game wasn't really "out" yet and certainly has the problem that everyone had played all the options to death before there was any real variety to work with.


I agree I am getting pretty sick of doing preorders they are taking forever... SW legions, GoT A Song of Ice and Fire, Batman, and Fallout (massive delays here). There is no real benefit of preordering and you definately don't get the product any sooner just have your money tied up for months at a time.
   
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Krennic & Death Troopers announced (for pre-order) and they're looking like another must buy when released Q1 '19.
https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2018/12/3/emerging-darkness/

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More nice stuff, just wish they had more control over preorder and actual release times.
   
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I like the Rogue One expansions a lot - I was rather lukewarm on the movie, but at least it felt like Star Wars and the models feel like they belong on the battlefield (unlike the Emperor and his guards). I'm rather lukewarm on the game too, but another year's worth of expansions and it might have enough variety of content to support a playerbase.

angel of death 007 wrote:
More nice stuff, just wish they had more control over preorder and actual release times.
FFG usually announces its products about 3 months before they become available. I'm not sure what the exact timing is, but I'd wager it has something to do with when production begins (it takes about 6 weeks on the boat, though the boat is frequently late, and an extra week to ship to the stores).

I think a 3 month lead time on announcing new products is too long for miniature games - the hype dies down rather quickly, giving other games a chance to scoot in and steal attention. Like, I was super pumped about RuneWars expansions, but since being announced, I've only played the game once and... hey that Blackstone Fortress sure is shiny...

It's fine for board games and their expansions though. It's just that the miniature games have such insignificant affects on the game. A new unit barely changes the game, whereas something like a Runebound (RIP ) expansion gives you a new playable character, some new encounter cards, a new skill set, a new set of equipment cards and tokens, and a new scenario.
   
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Any ideas when they will release the Imperial Army troops from Solo?

   
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And here's the images...



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We'll find out soon enough eh.

Stunning...but I still don't understand why FFG are going with the whole hollow-socket thing for eyes in bare-headed infantry. Their molds are clearly capable of reproducing an actual eyeball in those sockets, and it's not like it being there would make it harder to do the old base>drybrush>wash routine for a passable tabletop model.

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angel of death 007 wrote:
More nice stuff, just wish they had more control over preorder and actual release times.


They’re actually very consistent they just announce stuff way way ahead of release. They reliably release things about 4 months after announcing which means we can probably expect these in April.

Really excited for these but it does little to fix the games biggest issue of people only wanting to play Empire.
   
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 LunarSol wrote:
Really excited for these but it does little to fix the games biggest issue of people only wanting to play Empire.


Thing is, there's no fix for that. Most people simply prefer to play the good guys.

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I watched an unboxing on youtube of the wookie warriors and I was a bit surprised at the lack of detail on certain parts of the models compared with the Chewbacca one both in terms of less sculpted detail and possibly poor mold design/filling/casting. What material are the FFG Legions models made of?

   
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Boardgame PVC, as far as I know.
   
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Yup. Essentially boardgame PVC. There have been some things done in sprue plastic (vehicles mainly) but most everything has been PVC.
   
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 LunarSol wrote:
Yup. Essentially boardgame PVC. There have been some things done in sprue plastic (vehicles mainly) but most everything has been PVC.


Have they? I've only got the Stormtrooper set but they're much closer to sprue plastic/HIPS. Certainly much firmer that typical board game pvc (much much better than Imperial Assault and the usual FFG stuff). Held the detail fairly well (though I've seen the odd 'droopy' lightsaber here and there.

If later sets are a softer material that's pretty disappointing.
   
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PVC has a variety of material quality of different levels of detail and firmness. The initial stuff seems like it was a little nicer; still not CMON or Steamforge's quality, but nicer. It was definitely still PVC though.

Sprue plastic has some significant limitations you don't see on the stormtrooper models. Notably, you cannot really do the peg and socket arm assembly in HIPS. I'm pretty sure the only things that have been in HIPS are the AT-ST, Snowspeeder, AT-RT and Speeder Bikes, with the riders for the latter two still being PVC.

The models are really fine for the game, particularly on the Imperial side where there are fewer faces to worry about. They could certainly be better, but it's nice having a game at this scale that has really durable models.
   
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Thanks Albertorius and all for the PVC info. This is the video I was referring to. He starts comparing my favorite sculpt in the box to Chewie at about the 3 minute mark. It seems like they did the full effort on Chewie but then both sculpted thicker details and the mould layout lead to shallower filling (maybe of undercuts?) on top of that. Either way, it's edging towards the old WOTC wookie prepaint level of detail rather than what I expect of modern multipiece plastics. They're still better than the prepaints but their Chewie shows what I'd expect them all to be at (and it's not like Chewie is some masterpiece mini of the year but rather just a well done sculpt/fig). YMMV. They're still nice poses though.



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What’s the vehicle scale like in here then chaps. Looking to pick legion up in the new year and have the old wizards of the coast imperial AT-AT walker sat in its box. Thinking it might get some use, even just as a theme piece.
   
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 xKillGorex wrote:
What’s the vehicle scale like in here then chaps. Looking to pick legion up in the new year and have the old wizards of the coast imperial AT-AT walker sat in its box. Thinking it might get some use, even just as a theme piece.


The game's scale is around 1:47. Unfortunately, that limits your options a lot unless you can tolerate a *lot* of scale variance. So far the only things I've found that match Legion are the Revell "1:65"(actually almost bang-on 1:47, but Revell have a flexible relationship with scale in their non-historical ranges) TIE Fighter(sometimes also tagged as "Anniversary Edition"), the old AMT/ERTL A-Wing fighter(accurately scaled to the RoTJ screen appearance), the Bandai 1:48 "Moving Edition" X-Wing fighter and the old Fine Molds 1:48 X-Wing(the latter is more accurately scaled to Legion based on the new canon numbers from the Rogue One rescaling, but the difference isn't huge), the 1:48 Hasbro/Walmart limited run Millennium Falcon(good luck finding one for a reasonable price), and the old AMT Naboo N-1 Starfighter.

Also, be careful since a lot of kits & toys are advertised as being a certain size or scale, but aren't, or were but based on old non-canon numbers. Good example are the old AMT/ERTL TIE Fighters and Interceptors, which are listed at 1:51 scale so shouldn't be that bad...except they're 1:51 scale based on the old teeny-weeny numbers from the WEG RPGs, and are near enough half the size of the in-scale Revell TIE Fighter mentioned above. If you want stuff to be in-scale, always find out the "real" size of the vehicle and then try and look up a measurement of the kit/toy to see if it matches up - an AT-AT "should" be ~426mm long and ~479mm tall.

Of course, you might not give a gak to anywhere near that degree and just want it to look kinda OK, which is probably healthier


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New releases for legion announced;

X-34 Landspeeder;
https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2019/1/14/rebel-ingenuity/

TX-225 GAVw Occupier Combat Assault Tank;
https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2019/1/14/heavy-hitter/

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Oh those poor rebels....

Tank looks kind of crummy anyway. Transported units taking double damage seems like something that's not going to get used, but I'll be curious to see how the whole thing plays out. Pivot on oval base is also a curiosity. I've kind of decided to stop on the game now that I've got the iconic content. I really like it, but it seems like there's zero incentive to play Rebels, making it an unfortunately one faction game.
   
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 LunarSol wrote:
I really like it, but it seems like there's zero incentive to play Rebels, making it an unfortunately one faction game.
Why is there no incentive to play Rebels? Is it just that they don't have any cool models?
   
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Imperials get “all the cool toys”, the rebels get has been or garage modified equipment that tends to fall apart at the mere sight of imperial weaponry.

I thought the imp tank from Rogue One was a repulsor? And I would have much rathered the APC from Rebels/Sears (at least, that was where I got mine from back in ‘77-‘78) - or the tank from the first round of Star Wars Battlefront.

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Just because Luke's x34 speeder was missing one engine cowl, every other x34 in the galaxy has to as well?
   
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Jusssssst get the Clone Wars already ...

   
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Just by looking at the rebel speeder you can tell they are already reaching a bit when it comes to expanding the rebels. Both expansions do look good though. I bought the starter set to this game but it never took off and my interest waned. It's too much of a challenge to find players, whereas GW games I could get pickup games on short notice.

The clone wars as a setting is far more ideal for a game like this. It was more widespread, a lot more battles of substance were fought and at a larger scale etc. And on top of that i'm warming up to the prequels after seeing the last few disney SW movies.

Though I might pick up a box of the death troopers just cause they are one of the better designs to come out of the disney films.

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I keep telling people id love to play this game whenever they do Clone Wars. Its a really easy and fun game, I just dont care for the Galactic Civil War era.

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 Thargrim wrote:
Just by looking at the rebel speeder you can tell they are already reaching a bit when it comes to expanding the rebels.
Ain't that the truth.

Always said it would happen, especially with the Rebels. They're not an army! Luke's up-gunned speeder just proves that.

   
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They have seemed to come off second best in all the releases, no idea as to the actual gameplay side of the game but just looking at the models they are no where near as appealing as the Imperial side.

Going to be interesting to see where they go with the prequel stuff, even within the two factions there is a lot of variance as to what is shown on screen. I hope they try to branch out into some of that sooner than later rather than just droids v clones.

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