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 Yodhrin wrote:

Vorian wrote:
I don't think it's 3rd party stuff stopping it. That seems more like a myth invented by forum goers

We know they are thinking of allowing the other gangs to use all of the GS cult stuff. That's available already. There is no issue with 3rd party stuff.

They just aren't ready to do it yet. These things will come in good time. Necromunda is here for years and years and years. We're going to get loafs of cool stuff.

Then they can ask me to pay for it "in good time".

If you're incapable of gleaning any enjoyment out of the legacy gangs - or in the new style gangs in the months these rules are being released over then ignore it for a year and come back when it's all out.

Seems pretty bizarre to me, but if you really can't wait without taking it as a personal insult, then it sounds like it's going to save you much suffering!

Vorian wrote:
If you're incapable of gleaning any enjoyment out of the legacy gangs - or in the new style gangs in the months these rules are being released over then ignore it for a year and come back when it's all out.

Seems pretty bizarre to me, but if you really can't wait without taking it as a personal insult, then it sounds like it's going to save you much suffering!

The material will still be spread out over four or five overpriced books rather than a single core book like it was in the past. That's not even taking into consideration the eventual Outlanders material which will no doubt be another 4 or 5 books, plus whatever else they are going to throw in after that. I don't know what it's priced where you are, but GW want $49 Australian for Gang War, which is a ballsy asking price for a book of missing material that is itself missing material.

The gang kit come with the base. That is actually awesome

Yeah I was surprised by that. I'm the kind of person who doesn't use scenic bases because they won't match with the non-scenic bases.

But... the regular gangs come with them, so everything will still match. That's really good.

 Zethnar wrote:
I don't know what it's priced where you are, but GW want $49 Australian for Gang War, which is a ballsy asking price for a book of missing material that is itself missing material.

+1

I already have 3D terrain and custom kitbashed gangs that I want to use. I don't mind the new models at all but I don't need them so the box set is not good value for me just for the rulebook. I was ready to buy Gang War but hearing it only has rules for using the two gangs in the box set makes that seem like very poor value as well since I'd presumably be paying $50 for a few pages of rules on LOS and fall damage.

I would happily pay for a full standalone rulebook and I'd pay for a campaign supplement covering all the gangs. I have money ready to give to GW for new Necromunda but they've somehow structured this release in a way that there's nothing compelling for me to buy.

I would encourage those who are disappointed by the release structure to contact GW directly.
It is worth pointing out that you can buy a bloodbowl bundle of the core rules, deathzone season 1 and 2 for £20.($42 Australia. dollars)
The core rules are not available physically at all and the two books are £15 each.
I know digital is not ideal for everyone but it may be worth waiting to see what (if any) digital releases come out for Necromunda.

plessiez wrote:

I would happily pay for a full standalone rulebook and I'd pay for a campaign supplement covering all the gangs. I have money ready to give to GW for new Necromunda but they've somehow structured this release in a way that there's nothing compelling for me to buy.

My sentiments exactly.

I have looked at it and looked at it again and I cant justify buying 1/2 of the rules and than a book with 1/4 of the rules and then wait for more rules to be released and stand alone card sets and then on top of it all I still cant get everything because of 'limited edition gang tactics cards'.

The shock whip took up 3 arm space on the sprue while looking awkwardly unnatural so the model can fit in tight corridor. I'd prefer they went with the Power Axe like one of the gal from the concept art.

Disappointed with how the models are on the sprue, I'd assumed we'd be getting seperately torsos and legs but no, all one, so every plastic gang is going to have duplicated poses bar the arms and head.

I can't quite put my finger on why, but I'll be skipping this one , which I figure is the best way to show dislike for how it's been approached. If I could buy rules and a gang, and gang war was mixed into the book, then sure I would.

 Zethnar wrote:

Vorian wrote:
If you're incapable of gleaning any enjoyment out of the legacy gangs - or in the new style gangs in the months these rules are being released over then ignore it for a year and come back when it's all out.

Seems pretty bizarre to me, but if you really can't wait without taking it as a personal insult, then it sounds like it's going to save you much suffering!

The material will still be spread out over four or five overpriced books rather than a single core book like it was in the past. That's not even taking into consideration the eventual Outlanders material which will no doubt be another 4 or 5 books, plus whatever else they are going to throw in after that. I don't know what it's priced where you are, but GW want $49 Australian for Gang War, which is a ballsy asking price for a book of missing material that is itself missing material.

Sure, price is of course a personal thing. Some people will see it as too expensive (and obviously you guys are always getting screwed).

For me I think the core box and gang wars will be £93 and I'll pay £74.40 which I don't think is too bad. Obviously Necromunda is my favorite game and I've been waiting a decade so I probably value it higher than the average person.

Going forward, will I pay £14.40 for things like a decent bunch of scenarios and expansions to the rules? Probably, if they are once or twice a year, rather than with every gang.

If not, I'll learn the rules from places like this, it's not like I won't know pretty much every rule in gang war before it arrives :p

When you consider that you need one copy of the rules per group (if that) and then each person is away and playing with an investment of £20 it's actually a very cheap game to get in to.

Stayed up till midnight to get my pre order but neither my local store or GW UK has it up yet :(

Ruin_In_The_Dark wrote:
Stayed up till midnight to get my pre order but neither my local store or GW UK has it up yet :(

Who told you it was going to be a midnight preorder?

No one. But NZ went up at about that time.

Edit: my mistake. I'm just being impatient and paranoid about it selling out.

When asked about digital rules on WHTV, Andy Hoare said he doesn’t know because it’s not his department, but he imagined they would be digital as well. So hopefully people who don’t want the core box don’t have to buy it just for the rules.

I hope this does well enough that they'll consider making plastic Ratskins. Going to have to go with Escher for now, then Delaque when they come out.

The Goliath models would make for cool Digga proxies in Gorkamorka. Give them some green facepaint and they're good to go.

Got Underhive, Gang Wars and a box of 25mm bases preordered. The latter for some converted gangers made of Dark Vengeance Cultists. After getting this shipment and building these gangs, GSC Hybrids will probably be my next purchase.

Ordered Under hive, the two cards packs and the gang wars. Only preorder exclusive bundles I could find included dice, the novel collection and extra copies of both gangs which I don’t really need at the moment (may reconsider once the extra weapon spru is released).

Got underhive and gangwar, 1 of each gang for conversions, both sets of dice and cards. Happy days. Very nearly bought a load of ttcombat hive buildings but decided I should do a bit of research before I committed to my terrain.

Considering that some stores already have their preview copies, have there been any decent reviews or rule summaries?

There are neutral cards in both of the gang packs.

Do we know if the neutral cards are the same? In other words, are the neutral cards in the Goliath pack the same as the neutral cards in the Escher pack?

 Geifer wrote:
What if they don't have the old weapons either? Want a lascannon? Better play Delaque. Plasma cannon? Van Saar? Escher? And so forth.

The rules PDF will say that, I’m sure. However I don’t know anyone that would refuse to allow a house-rule to let me mix things up. The only problems will be models converted with weapons that no miniature had - which only means power fists, needle weapons and webbers.

67€ for an import copy. Mhm. My first WD had a cover with Goliath artwork and covered Necro coming out in Germany. So it'd be fitting to get it and never buy more GW until my backlog pile is gone (yeah, sure...).

I was excited for this release and now I am not. At the rate they seem to be aiming to release models, maybe I should come back in 3 years?

GW seems to be learning from the video game industry about breaking products up to maximize their return. The packs of mixed cards (gang and non-gang specific in the same pack) leaves a sour taste in my mouth. Same with spreading the rules over a series of books.

Cool models, but I'll pass.

Ordering through the online store did have an exclusive tactics card but apparently wasn’t added in time for those who ordered quickly and sold out pretty quickly.

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-WW/free-necromunda-tactical-card

Are pre-orders up for American customers yet? I see them on the UK page. I would have thought they'd be up for American customers by now.

Aeneades wrote:
Ordering through the online store did have an exclusive tactics card but apparently wasn’t added in time for those who ordered quickly and sold out pretty quickly.

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-WW/free-necromunda-tactical-card

Typical. Didn't even see that anywhere. If I'd have known, I'd have ordered my set from GW direct...

Seems like it's normally 10am or so on Saturday (maybe 9am now that the time changed?) for US pre-orders to open up.

 privateer4hire wrote:
Seems like it's normally 10am or so on Saturday (maybe 9am now that the time changed?) for US pre-orders to open up.

Thanks. I guess I'm staying up.

 jake wrote:
Are pre-orders up for American customers yet? I see them on the UK page. I would have thought they'd be up for American customers by now.

No. They should go up at 12pm Eastern, unless they accounted for the time shift on Sunday.

Still hyped over Necromunda - including all the changes made.

I have no problem with GW drip-feeding us stuff - and find the "day one DLC" comments both strange and lacking insight regarding the need for a company to make money. Either everybody needs to pay more for a complete base game (leading to fewer sold games - and a need for an even higher price) or the ones that like the game pays more - for additional content.

Also, legacy lists with rules for all gangs, chainswords and heavy stubbers will soon be availiable *for free*. Cannot see the problem.

I ordered one of everything Necromunda-related (and also all new releases for Tyranids and terrain plus the Blanche card deck) at my FLGS.

Feels good to support both GW and the local shop.