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Space Slann was just a joke, the noteworthy thing was how awkward it was when plastic sisters came up.

Obviously plastic sisters is an ongoing joke on twitch, but Andy's reaction suggested to me that he was aware they were coming and thought they'd be getting in trouble for talking about them - whereas Ceri knew it was an ongoing joke and the comment wouldn't be taken seriously.

Just one random guy's interpretation of the exchange

Voss wrote:
Space Slann were an actual thing in the Rogue Trader days. Stats, models and all.
Seems like a bit more mockery of Squats/Sisters players by being on the nose about one upping them with a more obscure cut faction.

My very first 40K love! Of course, the models were almost impossible to find in the U.S. at the time. And to be fair, they have appeared in artwork in a couple rulebooks since (4th and 6th?).







Just look at those beauties!

And regarding the conversation, yes, there appear to be some very aggressive deductions being made from a conversation in which Sisters were mentioned alongside Space Slann.

Vorian wrote:
Space Slann was just a joke, the noteworthy thing was how awkward it was when plastic sisters came up.

Obviously plastic sisters is an ongoing joke on twitch, but Andy's reaction suggested to me that he was aware they were coming and thought they'd be getting in trouble for talking about them - whereas Ceri knew it was an ongoing joke and the comment wouldn't be taken seriously.

Just one random guy's interpretation of the exchange

Or it was more scripted trolling and Andy's just not that good at faux-banter.

And also: aha, so it's Twitch chat that's fuelling GW's troll-marketing nonsense, why am I not surprised.

Doesn't look like Mad Donna and Belladonna are the same person. Unless Mad Donna actually join house Escher at some point. She's still a house Ulanti.

All this talk of Space Slann, maybe we'll get fishmen for AOS!

 Albino Squirrel wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:
See, I wish they would just admit that they changed their minds in order to flog Squats for nostalgiabucks, rather than lying about the whole Tyranids thing just being a joke no honest guv haha. You can look up Jervis' comments on the matter on the internet archive, and the "eaten by 'nids" thing being the studio's view on the their fate is presented as a matter of fact not a silly wee in-joke.

What codex or novel described the squats being wiped out by Tyranids?

That's the thing, it was a reply to a letter in WD as I recall. It has never been made canon, it also hasn't been explicitly mentioned since that one off-hand remark.

But because GW basically started writing squats out of things and generally ignoring them until an off-hand mention in 5th edition (I think that was when they were mentioned as an abhuman strain again) people just sort of assumed that it was true and that one off-hand remark morphed and mutated in to its own thing over time with most folks not knowing the original source. But I don't think GW ever formalized it (at least I can't recall it beyond that tongue-in-cheek reply).

There is also this old specialist games thread where JJ goes in to the behind-the-scenes reasons (I guess you could call this formalizing the "eaten by nids" thing, though even he says it was done in a way to bring them back later if they wished).

That said, I'm glad the little blighters are making a comeback in Necro, it's the perfect place for them. Here's hoping GW sees the opportunity and gives 'em a gang release (I'd even take a resin one to be honest). May have to drag my Forge Fathers out of storage while I wait for Van Saar to drop.

You can do a Squat gang if you want - just use a Bounty Hunter gang and give all your gang members the slow but tough statline.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
All this talk of Space Slann, maybe we'll get fishmen for AOS!

The Fimir? Forgeworld's already making those.

No, not Fimir. Fishmen. Different.

So, the Orlock gang box set shows you how to build the 'named' figures. But there's no character cards for them or stats. Nor is there any character cards in the pack of cards. There's no downloadable cards on the Necromunda website.

Have GW forgotten these or is there a future release?

I read somewhere that the points on the first set of cards don't match to the rulebook points. Seeing as though myself, wife and lad are using those character cards 'as is' out of the starter box I was hoping these named Orlock figures would have cards. Even the 'Orlock' book doesn't have them - just loads of Bounty Hunters.

Am I reading Gang War 2 right - Orlocks don't get Specialsits?

beast_gts wrote:
Am I reading Gang War 2 right - Orlocks don't get Specialsits?

If they ever bother to put out a FAQ the other gangs might loose them.

 Gimgamgoo wrote:

Have GW forgotten these or is there a future release?

I read somewhere that the points on the first set of cards don't match to the rulebook points. Seeing as though myself, wife and lad are using those character cards 'as is' out of the starter box I was hoping these named Orlock figures would have cards. Even the 'Orlock' book doesn't have them - just loads of Bounty Hunters.

Card from underhive box use point from Underhive rulebook, which is different from Gang war.

Points change, so does profile, expect your printed character card became obsolete after a few books.

If you have Underhive box you should have plenty of blank card to make your own gang, or you can just print your own, just make sure a whole gang use the same type of "card"

Don't even know why people even bother with pre-made gang, half of the fun from Necromunda come from making your own character, your own stories for them and get a feel of attachment to your ganger. The pre-made gang are neither balanced. optimized or competitive and could lead to very negative playing experience.

Although, GW should have given more blank character card ( at leat 20) in their gang tactic card pack, which itself is expensive.

Chopstick wrote:
The pre-made gang are neither balanced. optimized or competitive and could lead to very negative playing experience.

Good. Nothing more boring than an “optimised” Necromunda gang.

beast_gts wrote:
Am I reading Gang War 2 right - Orlocks don't get Specialsits?

Did you read Gang War 1?

Chopstick wrote:

beast_gts wrote:
Am I reading Gang War 2 right - Orlocks don't get Specialsits?

Did you read Gang War 1?

Yes I did. The Goliath & Escher lists both include the line "When the gang is created, one Ganger can equipped with a Special Weapon; during the campaign, additional Gangers can also take Special Weapons" but that's missing from the Orlock list.

beast_gts wrote:

Chopstick wrote:

beast_gts wrote:
Am I reading Gang War 2 right - Orlocks don't get Specialsits?

Did you read Gang War 1?

Yes I did. The Goliath & Escher lists both include the line "When the gang is created, one Ganger can equipped with a Special Weapon; during the campaign, additional Gangers can also take Special Weapons" but that's missing from the Orlock list.

And that had anything to do with "Orlock don't get Specialist?" Ganger become Specialist are still there, that's why they have a skill table for them.

Specialists and Special Weapons have nothing to do with each other other than an unfortunate naming convergance.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Specialists and Special Weapons have nothing to do with each other other than an unfortunate naming convergance.

And that explains that :-) - Someone in gaming group decided that Specialist = Ganger with Special Weapon and we all just went with it. I've now found the box on P.17 (of Gang War 1).


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So, can any Goliath & Escher Ganger take a Special Weapon (if they find them at the Trading Post), but Orlocks can't?

Went back and check the page, yes Orlock ganger can't take Heavy or Special weapon. RAW Escher and Goliath ganger can but they probably shouldn't.

Chopstick wrote:

 Gimgamgoo wrote:

Have GW forgotten these or is there a future release?

I read somewhere that the points on the first set of cards don't match to the rulebook points. Seeing as though myself, wife and lad are using those character cards 'as is' out of the starter box I was hoping these named Orlock figures would have cards. Even the 'Orlock' book doesn't have them - just loads of Bounty Hunters.

Card from underhive box use point from Underhive rulebook, which is different from Gang war.

Points change, so does profile, expect your printed character card became obsolete after a few books.

I thought both of those books came out on the same day. I'm sure I pre-ordered them together and got them on release day. Different points in each book released at the same time? Meh.

Chopstick wrote:


Don't even know why people even bother with pre-made gang, half of the fun from Necromunda come from making your own character, your own stories for them and get a feel of attachment to your ganger. The pre-made gang are neither balanced. optimized or competitive and could lead to very negative playing experience.

I disagree with that. Ask my opponents (my wife and kid) who would rather open the box and play than sit with books and points max/min'ing for ages before hand. We play casual.
Rather annoying that I need 20 blank cards to fix the ones in the starter set and 10 more for orlocks. Have GW made a downloadable one for us?

 Gimgamgoo wrote:
Rather annoying that I need 20 blank cards to fix the ones in the starter set and 10 more for orlocks. Have GW made a downloadable one for us?

[MOD EDIT - Dakka Dakka in no way condones IP infringement of any sort - Alpharius]

Chopstick wrote:
Went back and check the page, yes Orlock ganger can't take Heavy or Special weapon. RAW Escher and Goliath ganger can but they probably shouldn't.

Why?

beast_gts wrote:

 Gimgamgoo wrote:
Rather annoying that I need 20 blank cards to fix the ones in the starter set and 10 more for orlocks. Have GW made a downloadable one for us?

[MOD EDIT - Dakka Dakka in no way condones IP infringement of any sort - Alpharius]

If sharing the sort of stuff they used to tell us to photocopy with abandon is now banned IP infringement, this hobby really is going down the drain.

 Gimgamgoo wrote:

I disagree with that. Ask my opponents (my wife and kid) who would rather open the box and play than sit with books and points max/min'ing for ages before hand. We play casual.
Rather annoying that I need 20 blank cards to fix the ones in the starter set and 10 more for orlocks. Have GW made a downloadable one for us?

If your partner are too lazy to make their own gang, you make the gang for them. You look at the "named" model, you write down the gear. Or do a quick "survey" , you ask what they want, give them your suggestion (leader should take these and these, ganger should take these etc...) to speed thing up. then you write the character card. Do it a few days before the actual game day.

Any info on the made to order minatures for this week only? The sculpts and paint job seem pretty bad sadly. I was interested at first til I saw the close up view.

erzengal wrote:
Any info on the made to order minatures for this week only? The sculpts and paint job seem pretty bad sadly. I was interested at first til I saw the close up view.

They are old models that haven't aged well. That's pretty much the gist of it. Nostalgic throwbacks for people who played Necromunda back when dial-up was pretty normal.

I wouldn't put money into them unless you just really miss those old models. The newer ones are pretty awesome, and have a LOT of cool options.

People were saying the Kal Jerico model has bad sculpting, but Mad Donna is just atrocious.

Did they ever say why these are the only 3 models they chose for Made To Order? Did they lose the moulds for everything else?

 zend wrote:
People were saying the Kal Jerico model has bad sculpting, but Mad Donna is just atrocious.

Atrocious is a kind word. That girl looks like she got her face hit by a flamer and beaten out with a sackful of frozen Gretchin.

 Adeptus Doritos wrote:

 zend wrote:
People were saying the Kal Jerico model has bad sculpting, but Mad Donna is just atrocious.

That girl looks like she got her face hit by a flamer and beaten out with a sackful of frozen Gretchin.

to be fair, wouldn't she? I would say more melta than flamer but we're on the same page.