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The difference is that respirators are purchaseable equipment - I don't know if these masks are the same or if they're just ornamental. If the latter, no need to skimp on them.

You get at least one clipped to a belt, though.

 John Prins wrote:
Looking at the Van Saar units, I think you could easily use several of them as Imperial Assassins, with very little conversion.

I was thinking just that, the one with the dual pistols, funky mask, sci-fi swag braid, hello my assassins.

 AndrewGPaul wrote:
The difference is that respirators are purchaseable equipment - I don't know if these masks are the same or if they're just ornamental. If the latter, no need to skimp on them.

You get at least one clipped to a belt, though.

Mask/respirator on head are all for decoration, you don't need them on the model if you want to buy a respirator. And it look like the masked Van Saar head is their respirator.

The respirators are to identify which fighters have a respirator as part of their equipment. If you look at the fighter cards in the box, all the fighters with a respirator have one on the model.

I mean, you can not bother with things like that if you don't want to, but ... eww.

Even though I would prefer all my model having respirator head rather than a different flavor of smirk and lips piercing. RAW you don't need to model wargear on the model.

Between these and the new Doom Lords for Blood Bowl, GW has basically dropped too many "must buy" items at around the same time for me... Again.

The Van Saars I think I'm going to pick up a couple of boxes as Imperial Guard proxies for an Iron Hands army.

And possibly goes without saying, but between these and the Orlocks, you pretty much have some excellent multipart miniatures for almost any major Cyberpunk setting. The Goliaths and Escher have their uses in that too, obviously, but the last two gangs feel a little more repurposable (I think I just made that word up).

Chopstick wrote:
Even though I would prefer all my model having respirator head rather than a different flavor of smirk and lips piercing. RAW you don't need to model wargear on the model.

Who cares about RAW? It's just wrong I always spent the ten creds for a respirator the the Escher Heavy with heavy plasma gun, even though she was never targeted by a gas weapon in ten years.


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 ekwatts wrote:
And possibly goes without saying, but between these and the Orlocks, you pretty much have some excellent multipart miniatures for almost any major Cyberpunk setting. The Goliaths and Escher have their uses in that too, obviously, but the last two gangs feel a little more repurposable (I think I just made that word up).

I don't know; the Eschers and Goliaths both look as useable elsewhere as the Orlocks do - as different flavours of "street punks". In fact, you could mix all three up in a non-Necromunda setting.

Love the look of these Van Saar chaps. I was this close to buying into Orlocks, but now I'm definitely waiting for them. The more cyberpunk style is totally unique within the wider 40k setting, but fits nonetheless.

 Paradigm wrote:
Love the look of these Van Saar chaps. I was this close to buying into Orlocks, but now I'm definitely waiting for them. The more cyberpunk style is totally unique within the wider 40k setting, but fits nonetheless.

It is totally unique- Imperial Assassins have the same look. Sleek high-tech has been in 40k for awhile

So should I use Orlocks or Van Saar to make my 2000AD Judges? Got the heads, eagle shoulder pads & weapons already. Just need legs & torsos.

 bubber wrote:
So should I use Orlocks or Van Saar to make my 2000AD Judges? Got the heads, eagle shoulder pads & weapons already. Just need legs & torsos.

You might want to wait for the Enforcers.

Or go to W. Artel and looks up his non-Arbites.

 Haighus wrote:

 Paradigm wrote:
Love the look of these Van Saar chaps. I was this close to buying into Orlocks, but now I'm definitely waiting for them. The more cyberpunk style is totally unique within the wider 40k setting, but fits nonetheless.

It is totally unique- Imperial Assassins have the same look. Sleek high-tech has been in 40k for awhile

If you mean these ones...are nothing alike.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
They're just fantastic.

I hope the shoulder thing is some kind of exotic energy cannon, and not a weird lookin' plasma cannon.

My first thought was ‘conversion beamer?’. Whatever it is, these are some some lovely models.

I might use them as Inquisitorial Acolytes

The big gun was in the rumour engine a few weeks ago!

They look very cyberpunk/covert ops and I like it.
I'm seriously considering doing some as an inquisitorial strike team.

Wow they look really cool! The models would fit really well alongside some Dreamforge stormtroopers as they have very similar armour styles (besides the helmets)

That shield has to be my favourite thing in the set but all the cool helmets and guns are not far behind..

 Modock wrote:

 Haighus wrote:

 Paradigm wrote:
Love the look of these Van Saar chaps. I was this close to buying into Orlocks, but now I'm definitely waiting for them. The more cyberpunk style is totally unique within the wider 40k setting, but fits nonetheless.

It is totally unique- Imperial Assassins have the same look. Sleek high-tech has been in 40k for awhile

If you mean these ones...are nothing alike.

Eh, ymmv, but the body shapes and equipment have a lot of similarities. The Van Saar have more armour, but that is more a function of their role. You slap armour plates onto the Callidus and it would look very similar to the female Van Saar. The data noodle things the VanSaar have also look similar to the Speculum Animus of the Culexus. I feel the Van Saar draw heavily from the Assassins aesthetic, but modified to fit the underhive, the role of a ganger, and some adjustments to make up for lower tech (like armour plates over the body suits which the Assassins don't need with their superior bodysuits).

The new VS models remind me of Hive Spiders

With how they've been updating the gangs and hoe they've redesigned Van Saar, I'm really hopeful that the'll do great things with the Spyrers when they get to them.

I for one hope they do a “big reveal” that sourer suits are purely human tech… STC tech in fact, that Van Saar sell as “offworld” tech through cut-outs and shell companies because they can jack up the price even more and to throw off suspicion about its origins…

From Facebook:

The Van Saar are coming, featuring a new multipart plastic kit, new weapons and plenty of new tricks for you to unleash on your unexpecting rivals - here's a closer look at the new kit:

Hah, the optical illusion makes it seem like that lady has extremely short legs... but in fact what I saw as one leg was actually the top of one and the bottom of another.

Plasmagun/Canon + shield seem like an intended combo

Oh my that shotgun is sick

Looks like motion/heartbeat sensor on his belt too

That guy at the bottom with the mask and rifle is just oozing cool - any indication how soon they will be available to buy? Because I'm gonna need 2 boxes bare minimum!

Well, those photos do the paintjobs more justice!

They originally said 1 box per quarter so April earliest but May seemed more likely, now I’m unsure as they showed these guys off early and we haven’t had the weapon pack yet.

SnotlingPimpWagon wrote:
Well, those photos do the paintjobs more justice!

Disagree. Look, nobody can deny the FW person has talent, but their style is just flat-out bad for promo stuff. Every time the way they paint faces flattens out detail while exaggerating some features to a silly degree(see Valdor's forehead), and the studio lighting doesn't do it any favours either. The style is the kind that no doubt looks really amazing when you hold it in your hand with less stark lighting, or even in distance pics with "mood" lighting, but these up-close shots look like someone taking pictures of their model with the camera flash turned on.

They either need to change their painter for the promo pics, or else change the photographer taking them.

Yeah on one hand the models are technically well painted. They probably look great on the table. But they don't photograph particularly well. I'm also not a fan of NMM and it looks like zero metallics were used on these. I'll certainly be using kabalite green for the armor, but some alterations elsewhere are going to be made.

But seeing as how all the studio gangs are being painted this way, i'd rather see the aesthetic stay consistent in their photography. It's too late to do a jump in painting style now, otherwise the remaining gangs will look odd next to the others when it comes to images.

I'd also bet these will release in may, hopefully no later than that. And weirdly enough i'm pretty excited to to see the Van Saar dice. The other dice sets for the gangs are my favorite GW dice.