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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/12/13 22:10:52
Subject: HATE from CMON Kickstarter January 16, 2018 at 3:00 PM EST
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These look great but would it kill the sculptors to compensate for the pvc shrinkage on the weapons? I mean, how many of these games have they done now?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/12/13 22:11:04
Subject: HATE from CMON Kickstarter January 16, 2018 at 3:00 PM EST
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I've not seen anything but since they were showing previews (of the minis at the very least) at recent shows if anybody who saw them could comment it would be useful?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/12/13 23:26:22
Subject: HATE from CMON Kickstarter January 16, 2018 at 3:00 PM EST
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
We'll find out soon enough eh.
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It's base sizes on those previews I'd like to know - the Blood Rage models were surprisingly titchy when I got hold of them in person because their proportions made me think they were on 30mm bases but they were actually much closer to 25mm.
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I need to acquire plastic Skavenslaves, can you help?
I have a blog now, evidently. Featuring the Alternative Mordheim Model Megalist.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/12/13 23:30:48
Subject: HATE from CMON Kickstarter January 16, 2018 at 3:00 PM EST
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I'd be very surprised if the went up a base size, as it means less space in the tool (and you have to make even bigger monsters to make them look impressive, and they had enough complaints about non small monsters about the elementals box that was so unpopular during Massive Darkness that the decided not to send it to retail as originally planned and that was vs pretty small 25mm based dwarves & orcs ), but I'll be sure to ask when the campaign goes live
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/12/14 06:31:48
Subject: HATE from CMON Kickstarter January 16, 2018 at 3:00 PM EST
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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On Facebook they said about 32 mm
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/12/14 07:09:31
Subject: HATE from CMON Kickstarter January 16, 2018 at 3:00 PM EST
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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GOt no interest in this game, but this is an exceptional mini
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lost and damned log
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/519978.page#6525039 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/12/14 09:35:45
Subject: Re:HATE from CMON Kickstarter January 16, 2018 at 3:00 PM EST
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Space Marine Scout with Sniper Rifle
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But..... is this a wargame like warhammer or a classical boardgame like Zombicide? I didnt understand it...
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wargamers rise from your workbench!!!! buahahaha !!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/12/14 11:57:29
Subject: HATE from CMON Kickstarter January 16, 2018 at 3:00 PM EST
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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Minis are looking good, would be great if I was a chaos player. Are they showing the PVC samples or resin masters?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/12/14 12:13:37
Subject: HATE from CMON Kickstarter January 16, 2018 at 3:00 PM EST
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Necros wrote:Minis are looking good, would be great if I was a chaos player. Are they showing the PVC samples or resin masters?
Resin. Though PVC is surprisingly good on larger minis.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/12/14 13:58:43
Subject: HATE from CMON Kickstarter January 16, 2018 at 3:00 PM EST
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Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps
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In fairness, CMON using Ludofact has got the PVC minis down to really good standards. Not HIPS, but easily the best boardgame minis in my opinion.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/12/14 14:38:43
Subject: HATE from CMON Kickstarter January 16, 2018 at 3:00 PM EST
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Regular Dakkanaut
Philadelphia, PA
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MrDwhitey wrote:In fairness, CMON using Ludofact has got the PVC minis down to really good standards. Not HIPS, but easily the best boardgame minis in my opinion.
Agreed, better than WMH or Mantic PVC IMO
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/12/15 17:06:58
Subject: Re:HATE from CMON Kickstarter January 16, 2018 at 3:00 PM EST
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/12/16 22:41:44
Subject: HATE from CMON Kickstarter January 16, 2018 at 3:00 PM EST
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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I love all the figures, but all the tribes look too similar to each other. If I didn't know any better, I'd say they were all from the same group instead of separate ones.
The only major difference is one tribe has two handed axes while the other tribe has two single handed weapons.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/12/16 23:05:50
Subject: HATE from CMON Kickstarter January 16, 2018 at 3:00 PM EST
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Moopy wrote:I love all the figures, but all the tribes look too similar to each other. If I didn't know any better, I'd say they were all from the same group instead of separate ones.
The only major difference is one tribe has two handed axes while the other tribe has two single handed weapons.
I suspect they'll be in different coloured plastics like rising sun.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/12/18 18:17:47
Subject: HATE from CMON Kickstarter January 16, 2018 at 3:00 PM EST
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
UK
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don't l;ike this one sculpt wise
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/12/18 18:50:30
Subject: Re:HATE from CMON Kickstarter January 16, 2018 at 3:00 PM EST
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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I’m not feeling many of the sculpts. But then again I don’t have a plan to build a new chaos army anytime soon. Guess I’ll save some money for the next Kickstarter.
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LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/12/18 21:15:45
Subject: Re:HATE from CMON Kickstarter January 16, 2018 at 3:00 PM EST
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Dakka Veteran
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Um'Rak Youngblood.
I'm liking how chunky some of these sculpts are given they'll be PVC. Automatically Appended Next Post:
Another Um'Rak warrior I think.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/12/20 05:13:16
Subject: Re:HATE from CMON Kickstarter January 16, 2018 at 3:00 PM EST
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Are these guys supposed to be from different clans? They all look so similar. The campaign must really be targeted for a very specific niche within miniature boardgame collectors.
Also, for the last few HATE guys, I can't help but see this:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/12/20 05:31:16
Subject: Re:HATE from CMON Kickstarter January 16, 2018 at 3:00 PM EST
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Experienced Saurus Scar-Veteran
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Is that a game component or some sort of fetish contraption?
Fun for the whole family? ....Just what have you been doing at home lately, Mr. Inquisitor?
Have any of the clans for these latest sculpts been mentioned?
I don't remember the clans having very distinct looks in the books though either...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/12/20 05:59:50
Subject: HATE from CMON Kickstarter January 16, 2018 at 3:00 PM EST
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Tunneling Trygon
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These latest ones are Um'rak, as opposed to the Um'gra from earlier.
I must say, that's going to get very confusing for me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/12/20 07:14:54
Subject: HATE from CMON Kickstarter January 16, 2018 at 3:00 PM EST
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Renegade Inquisitor with a Bound Daemon
Tied and gagged in the back of your car
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They all look like Chaos Marauders to me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/12/20 08:29:08
Subject: Re:HATE from CMON Kickstarter January 16, 2018 at 3:00 PM EST
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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highlord tamburlaine wrote:Is that a game component or some sort of fetish contraption?
Fun for the whole family? ....Just what have you been doing at home lately, Mr. Inquisitor?
Have any of the clans for these latest sculpts been mentioned?
I don't remember the clans having very distinct looks in the books though either...
Behind the model in the pictures there’s a really subtle logo which I’m guessing shows which Clan they’re from. Very easy to miss though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/12/20 10:37:32
Subject: HATE from CMON Kickstarter January 16, 2018 at 3:00 PM EST
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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For use as marauders, it is great that they all look similar
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/12/20 16:50:27
Subject: HATE from CMON Kickstarter January 16, 2018 at 3:00 PM EST
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/12/20 18:33:00
Subject: HATE from CMON Kickstarter January 16, 2018 at 3:00 PM EST
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Dakka Veteran
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Well, the designs got boring quickly... Rising Sun seems to be 10 times better in that regard.
I'd wager we are to see at least 15 more dudes with fat cleavers/axes, toothy grin and flesh-balaklavas
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/12/20 18:35:57
Subject: HATE from CMON Kickstarter January 16, 2018 at 3:00 PM EST
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Dakka Veteran
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SnotlingPimpWagon wrote:Well, the designs got boring quickly... Rising Sun seems to be 10 times better in that regard.
I'd wager we are to see at least 15 more dudes with fat cleavers/axes, toothy grin and flesh-balaklavas
Rising Sun was just the weeb version of this.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/12/20 19:58:15
Subject: HATE from CMON Kickstarter January 16, 2018 at 3:00 PM EST
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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We had these complaints for The Others as well. If the comic is confusing because of the similar designs, that could be a legitimate complaint, but I doubt Adrien Smith (sp?) had in mind a boardgame, so didn't design the art for a boardgame. Rising Sun, meanwhile, was designed as a boardgame, so the clans were designed to be distinguishable from each other. Of course, having different faction colors should make it pretty easy to tell one tribe (or whatever) from another.
Not sure if I need more miniatures (or if this KS will have many, given its limited audience), but I guess if I want any punk-apocalypse Mad Max mini's, this is about as close as it will get!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/12/20 20:34:48
Subject: HATE from CMON Kickstarter January 16, 2018 at 3:00 PM EST
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
UK
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HATE: The Um'Rak Tribe
Dec 20, 2017
When being on your own means risking brutal injury or a painful death, you work to find people you can trust. A Tribe is more than just a gathering of people, it is security against the evils of a world that would tear at your flesh off and spill your innards. Trust can mean eating another meal. Trust can mean living another day. Trust can mean slaughtering another foe.
The Um’Rak Tribe have survived for so long due to their trust for one-another. For generations, they avoided any hierarchy, eschewing leadership for a grim partnership in the business of dealing out death. This trust has lead them to success in war, and they are beginning to feel like it might be time for their Tribe to rise above the bloody rabble and sit upon a throne of skulls.
On the battlefield, the Um’Rak work together, slicing up the enemy like a well-oiled machine. Over the years, they developed attack and defense formations that are formidable for those that must face them in war.
No matter what they encounter, the Um’Rak stick together, moving as a single unit with one goal in mind: causing pain to those that would oppose them.
In HATE, players can take control of the Um’Rak Tribe as bludgeon their way through a series of Clashes. Each of the Tribe members will take on their own personalities as they gain skills and scars in their quest for dominance. If they are able to hold their formations in a Clash, the odds are in their favor. Adjacent allies are able to lend support, multiple figures may be activated at once, and best of all, single attacks may be made as a group, descending on opponents like a pack of wild dogs, ripping foes to shreds and then dining on the rewards within.
Without trust, it’s hard to be successful in most things in life. That goes doubly true for the harsh reality of this new world. There is no mercy, no empathy, no love. There is only trust, and HATE.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/12/20 20:55:33
Subject: HATE from CMON Kickstarter January 16, 2018 at 3:00 PM EST
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Very same-y dudes, yeah. Most of them are kind of awesome, though. The resemblance would make using t0hem as a faction somewhere else, e.g. Blood Rage. Or goons for whstever I just hope that cleaning them up won't be totally impossible with tons of mould lines crossing tiny leather straps, chains and fur.
I need to see more giants, though.
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Looking for a Skaven Doomwheel banner to repair my Nurgle knights. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/12/20 23:34:39
Subject: HATE from CMON Kickstarter January 16, 2018 at 3:00 PM EST
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Dakka Veteran
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ced1106 wrote:We had these complaints for The Others as well. If the comic is confusing because of the similar designs, that could be a legitimate complaint, but I doubt Adrien Smith (sp?) had in mind a boardgame, so didn't design the art for a boardgame. Rising Sun, meanwhile, was designed as a boardgame, so the clans were designed to be distinguishable from each other. Of course, having different faction colors should make it pretty easy to tell one tribe (or whatever) from another.
Not sure if I need more miniatures (or if this KS will have many, given its limited audience), but I guess if I want any punk-apocalypse Mad Max mini's, this is about as close as it will get!
In the comics all the human tribes seem to be under the control of a few big rival warlords. We see two of them. Don't know if there are more. Big double cleaver guy for example is the right hand of skull skirt dude.
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