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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/25 16:59:29
Subject: Re:HATE from CMON Kickstarter ecxclusive, no retail (Live)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Houston, TX
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Much like the Game of Thrones terrain, I don't get why you'd tool HIPS terrain and not sell it retail. These seem like they'd be solid evergreen products.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/25 17:20:39
Subject: Re:HATE from CMON Kickstarter ecxclusive, no retail (Live)
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Experienced Saurus Scar-Veteran
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I agree. Stuff like huts, hills, trees... that stuff goes beyond a specific game and can really get a lot of mileage on the tabletop. Kinda like Mantic's terrain, which they figured out would sell pretty decently unattached from any specific game with their Terrain crates.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/25 18:25:52
Subject: HATE from CMON Kickstarter ecxclusive, no retail (Live)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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CMON has form for it though, there was strong demand for the Plastic inserts from WoK (?) and they never bothered releasing them to retail (well their own webstore)..... well except the one design they didn't follow the art on, the Goritsi if I'm not mistaken, although they did do some with microarts studio a year or two later, but not releasing the original ones was just daft as they'd already been tooled
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/25 19:26:46
Subject: Re:HATE from CMON Kickstarter ecxclusive, no retail (Live)
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Experienced Saurus Scar-Veteran
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Weren't the Mico Arts the same as the Wrath of Kings inserts though? Or incredibly similar?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/25 20:01:11
Subject: HATE from CMON Kickstarter ecxclusive, no retail (Live)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
UK
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they were designed for the same deep bases, but the designs weren't the same, and they were about a 12-18 months after CMON could have been selling their own (more limited range)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/25 20:22:54
Subject: HATE from CMON Kickstarter ecxclusive, no retail (Live)
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Unstoppable Bloodthirster of Khorne
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I have no interest in those tokens.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/25 22:08:38
Subject: Re:HATE from CMON Kickstarter ecxclusive, no retail (Live)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Houston, TX
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They were based off the Groundwerks line, which was for Dark Age. The exception was the "graveyard" ones, which CMON cheaped out on and instead gave us just basic dirt bases (and later gave out refunds on). The setup was very similar to the CMON basing system however, with the deep well.
I had issues with them, as the inserts are smaller than average. A regular 30mm round lip base has about 25mm of "base" area to stand a figure on. The CMON ones have about 21. If you're working with a wide stance figure, they're even more of a PITA to base than normal. I am surprised CMON seems to have just scrapped them entirely. You'd think with them chugging along on Dark Age they'd bring them back.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/25 22:14:43
Subject: Re:HATE from CMON Kickstarter ecxclusive, no retail (Live)
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Experienced Saurus Scar-Veteran
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New stretch goal is a mercenary...
Plus a painted one-
These models would make great roaming monsters in Massive Darkness...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/26 07:26:48
Subject: HATE from CMON Kickstarter ecxclusive, no retail (Live)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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So to improve mediocre game with more plastic, you buy even more mediocre game,l...good thinking.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/26 08:48:13
Subject: HATE from CMON Kickstarter ecxclusive, no retail (Live)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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smurfORnot wrote:So to improve mediocre game with more plastic, you buy even more mediocre game,l...good thinking.
If the base game isn't worth getting on its own, neither are any of the expansions.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/26 10:01:57
Subject: HATE from CMON Kickstarter ecxclusive, no retail (Live)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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JohnHwangDD wrote: smurfORnot wrote:So to improve mediocre game with more plastic, you buy even more mediocre game,l...good thinking.
If the base game isn't worth getting on its own, neither are any of the expansions.
Well, most of CMON, especially retail versions of the game, ain't.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/26 18:59:24
Subject: HATE from CMON Kickstarter ecxclusive, no retail (Live)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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smurfORnot wrote: JohnHwangDD wrote: smurfORnot wrote:So to improve mediocre game with more plastic, you buy even more mediocre game,l...good thinking.
If the base game isn't worth getting on its own, neither are any of the expansions.
Well, most of CMON, especially retail versions of the game, ain't.
Indeed. That's why, of all the CMoN stuff, I've KS'd, I've only kept the Rue Morgue core. Also Sedition Wars, but that's because it's not worth selling, and none of my friends want it. But it neatly illustrates the point about core games needing to be good before spending even more money. All that said, I do have high hopes for Smog, which should be arriving before summer, but even so, I only got a core.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/26 19:12:12
Subject: Re:HATE from CMON Kickstarter ecxclusive, no retail (Live)
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Experienced Saurus Scar-Veteran
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I strongly disagree.
Arcadia Quest was solid out of the box. Black Plague as well. Masmorra was entertaining for a light dice chucker. Dogs of War caused some wonderfully serious butthurt arguments over scheming and backstabbing.
I'd almost argue the opposite- all the superfluous kickstarter stuff isn't even necessary for *most* of the games they've released, unless you play them nonstop. Xenoshyft I thought greatly benefited from the stretch goals and gave you much more of a fighting chance.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/26 20:51:29
Subject: HATE from CMON Kickstarter ecxclusive, no retail (Live)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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FYI, I didn't back any of those games. I guess I chose badly.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/27 18:13:28
Subject: Re:HATE from CMON Kickstarter ecxclusive, no retail (Live)
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Experienced Saurus Scar-Veteran
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More terrain for those that liked their board games blinged out or are too lazy to scratchbuild decent looking forests themselves (like me).
Obligatory size comparison-
The way they're supposed to work is they sit in the center of 4 squares, with the roots branching out to keep the spaces on the board usable still.
10 of them for 13 dollars certainly isn't a bad deal, and at 8cm tall they'd be decent for most tabletop games besides this.
They should help unlock these guys, who are about 5k away currently-
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/27 18:29:48
Subject: Re:HATE from CMON Kickstarter ecxclusive, no retail (Live)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Houston, TX
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Daaaamn! That's a really good deal on trees!
At this point I think they should run a HIPS terrain KS...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/27 21:40:33
Subject: HATE from CMON Kickstarter ecxclusive, no retail (Live)
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/27 21:54:50
Subject: HATE from CMON Kickstarter ecxclusive, no retail (Live)
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Fixture of Dakka
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Thiago clarified it’s 8 trees and that is what is shown on the campaign page.
Threw in a buck incase I want Chaos Marauders and huts/trees whenever the PM hits.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/28 00:30:25
Subject: Re:HATE from CMON Kickstarter ecxclusive, no retail (Live)
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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Just went in for $1 as well. If I can scrape together enough for all in then I’ll back, otherwise they’ll get the$1.
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LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/29 13:15:37
Subject: HATE from CMON Kickstarter ecxclusive, no retail (Live)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
UK
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trees correction, the pack has 8 (not 10 as originally written)
up next
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/29 18:15:41
Subject: HATE from CMON Kickstarter ecxclusive, no retail (Live)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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The Extra Terrain tiles are an unplanned SG, due to Backers wanting to play parallel games, so CMoN did listen. I suspect CMoN left a little money on the table, as people definitely would have paid for a 2nd playset of tiles, dice, etc.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/30 06:54:32
Subject: HATE from CMON Kickstarter ecxclusive, no retail (Live)
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Unstoppable Bloodthirster of Khorne
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Anyone know if they're doing $1 pledges with the option to PM it up later? I'm going to be out of town all week next week with limited internet, and not in a situation where KS will be a feasable thing - and I'm not yet fully sold on this project.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/30 08:13:34
Subject: HATE from CMON Kickstarter ecxclusive, no retail (Live)
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Expendable Defender Destroid Rookie
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It would be shocking if they didn't do that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/30 10:44:05
Subject: HATE from CMON Kickstarter ecxclusive, no retail (Live)
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Fixture of Dakka
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Azazelx wrote:Anyone know if they're doing $1 pledges with the option to PM it up later? I'm going to be out of town all week next week with limited internet, and not in a situation where KS will be a feasable thing - and I'm not yet fully sold on this project.
Yes, as per the FAQ on the KS page.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/30 13:33:22
Subject: Re:HATE from CMON Kickstarter ecxclusive, no retail (Live)
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Indeed!
Can I make just a $1 pledge now?
You can make a $1 pledge now, and when the Pledge Manager goes live after the campaign has ended you can add more funds to get a full pledge and any add-ons you'd like.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/30 13:53:22
Subject: HATE from CMON Kickstarter ecxclusive, no retail (Live)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
UK
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stretch again
Oh and you can buy extra RED dice
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/30 16:51:38
Subject: Re:HATE from CMON Kickstarter ecxclusive, no retail (Live)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/30 17:36:30
Subject: HATE from CMON Kickstarter ecxclusive, no retail (Live)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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The lizardmen look great, but what's up with the regular guy on the white base? Why is he a person instead of a lizardman?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/30 17:39:59
Subject: HATE from CMON Kickstarter ecxclusive, no retail (Live)
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Fixture of Dakka
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JohnHwangDD wrote:The lizardmen look great, but what's up with the regular guy on the white base? Why is he a person instead of a lizardman?
Lizardmen are people too!
Maybe he identifies as a lizard-person.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/30 17:49:33
Subject: HATE from CMON Kickstarter ecxclusive, no retail (Live)
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Thermo-Optical Tuareg
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Lizardmen, eh? I could get behind that. I wonder if there's plans for other beastman factions?
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