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 Irbis wrote:

 Slinky wrote:

This image kinda killed this model for me. Sword looked cool from above, but now you can see it's literally thicker than wider, like some sort of club. Ditto for the robe, looked good when you couldn't see the edge, but both bits are thicker than his legs. Alas, no FW model comes even close to plastic Cata TDA Captain, details are nice, but the execution completely shatters any immersion.

At least if there’s ever a Warhammer x NERF crossover, Hasbro can use this model’s digitial renders for reference when they make a foam power sword. Already the perfect thickness to translate to foam.

I’ll give the sculptor credit for the rest of the model, he/she tried and it’s still overall better than most of the plastic marines we’ve been getting. The Contemptor is downright awesome too.

I think the foam sword doesn't take that much away from the model, it's bloody fantastic and if it's too obnoxious there is always the option of replacing that blade with a similar DA themed plastic one. Not ideal, but an option nonetheless.

SeanDrake wrote:

 warboss wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Its so it doesn break or end up to thin.

I think we all know why but I suspect the point is that lots of folks get FW character figs specifically for the asthetics... And that IMO does detract from an otherwise very nice fig.

Accept the FW back catalogue is full of much better sculpted swords and cloaks/robes just off the top of my head the inquisition stuff Solomon Lox and Rex both have excellent sculpts without the need for girder swords or duvet cloaks.

It's not a sculpting/material limitation as much as a sculptor limitation they xxxl cloaks started to appear with the 30k TSons stuff
and the swords shortly after I think. I guess they decided that given the new painter they were using the sculpts were less of an issue as once painted they would look gak anyway.

I didn't claim that there weren't examples of better sculpted swords or even that it was an unavoidable limitation but rather that I understand why they did it. It's an important difference as I, like you, also would have preferred a thinner sword. I'm simply restating that they prioritized durability over asthetics. If I wanted chunky swords that don't break easily, I'd buy one of their plastic minis kits. And in case you don't believe me, here is a post I made just a few days ago commenting on one of the same figs you mentioned as an example.

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/2130/771186.page#10538947

I love the thin sword on Rex but I fully admit that it's also incredibly fragile. As for making the robes thin, here is the pic I uploaded for a 2011 review of that fig where I detail the negative aspects of thin robes as my legit FW copy had multiple defects because of that thin material that I highlighted in the gallery pic linked below.

https://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/209607-.html

GW simply prioritized durability and casting ease over asthetics. I don't agree with that choice (I'd rather they prioritize QA and casting training instead of lowering the quality/asthetics) but I understand why they did it as it's simply cheaper for them to sculpt it thicker.

The sword looks more like a Knife-blade instead of a actual sword.
Or a chisel-
But the rest of the mini is actually quite nice.

It's a Terminator Sword. It's gonna be bigger ya know.

 warboss wrote:

SeanDrake wrote:

 warboss wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Its so it doesn break or end up to thin.

I think we all know why but I suspect the point is that lots of folks get FW character figs specifically for the asthetics... And that IMO does detract from an otherwise very nice fig.

Accept the FW back catalogue is full of much better sculpted swords and cloaks/robes just off the top of my head the inquisition stuff Solomon Lox and Rex both have excellent sculpts without the need for girder swords or duvet cloaks.

It's not a sculpting/material limitation as much as a sculptor limitation they xxxl cloaks started to appear with the 30k TSons stuff
and the swords shortly after I think. I guess they decided that given the new painter they were using the sculpts were less of an issue as once painted they would look gak anyway.

I didn't claim that there weren't examples of better sculpted swords or even that it was an unavoidable limitation but rather that I understand why they did it. It's an important difference as I, like you, also would have preferred a thinner sword. I'm simply restating that they prioritized durability over asthetics. If I wanted chunky swords that don't break easily, I'd buy one of their plastic minis kits. And in case you don't believe me, here is a post I made just a few days ago commenting on one of the same figs you mentioned as an example.

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/2130/771186.page#10538947

I love the thin sword on Rex but I fully admit that it's also incredibly fragile. As for making the robes thin, here is the pic I uploaded for a 2011 review of that fig where I detail the negative aspects of thin robes as my legit FW copy had multiple defects because of that thin material that I highlighted in the gallery pic linked below.

https://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/209607-.html

GW simply prioritized durability and casting ease over asthetics. I don't agree with that choice (I'd rather they prioritize QA and casting training instead of lowering the quality/asthetics) but I understand why they did it as it's simply cheaper for them to sculpt it thicker.

Sorry I know I quoted you but I was responding to some of the comments after yours my bad.

I agree they went for durability over aesthetic but it just strikes me as odd given it’s a mini in the essentially boutique line where aesthetics were always the number one draw.

Also with the cloaks/robes there surely must be a better compromise than either good like the old stuff and sculpted in play doh like the new ones. I mean some of them are like a cm thick in places there terrible, at least with the swords you can pretend there a funny shaped mace.

Gotta love “nothing new, because reasons” FW Fridays

Golden Keshig are here!

Are the Chinese holding their damn transfers hostage or something?

Is that MKII or MKIII armour they're wearing? It's pretty cool to see!

Not really gone on the models themselves though.

 Tyranid Horde wrote:
Is that MKII or MKIII armour they're wearing?

Looks like MK III.

 Tyranid Horde wrote:
Is that MKII or MKIII armour they're wearing? It's pretty cool to see!

Not really gone on the models themselves though.

It actually looks like Mk III as it's got the reinforced plating over the segmented plate

Do we have rules for using these in 40k?

gilljoy wrote:
Do we have rules for using these in 40k?

Why would you, they're a Legion unit.

 Yodhrin wrote:

gilljoy wrote:
Do we have rules for using these in 40k?

Why would you, they're a Legion unit.

It's my only hope of getting white scars jetbikes in 40k :(

 CragHack wrote:
Gotta love “nothing new, because reasons” FW Fridays

Ah yes only one unit for 30k marines so it's nothing new

tneva82 wrote:

 CragHack wrote:
Gotta love “nothing new, because reasons” FW Fridays

Ah yes only one unit for 30k marines so it's nothing new

In his defence, FW posted these late (around 1 and 1/2 hours later than usual) and he posted that before FW did.

I like how there are only 2 miniatures in that photo.

Most news goes up and out a lot later these days. Used to trickle throughout the afternoon, but nowadays, it's almost all past five, in the evening for me.

gilljoy wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:

gilljoy wrote:
Do we have rules for using these in 40k?

Why would you, they're a Legion unit.

It's my only hope of getting white scars jetbikes in 40k :(

That's what I mean though, jetbikes are a 30K unit. There's enough backtracking on the technological decline aspect of 40K already, they need to leave some stuff in the past or the idea that 40K constitutes any kind of meaningful decline as opposed to 30K just becomes nonsense.

 Yodhrin wrote:

gilljoy wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:

gilljoy wrote:
Do we have rules for using these in 40k?

Why would you, they're a Legion unit.

It's my only hope of getting white scars jetbikes in 40k :(

That's what I mean though, jetbikes are a 30K unit. There's enough backtracking on the technological decline aspect of 40K already, they need to leave some stuff in the past or the idea that 40K constitutes any kind of meaningful decline as opposed to 30K just becomes nonsense.

Yeah I get that, it's a shame they didn't bring out new bikes with the scars codex it seems like a missed opportunity.

I may pick one up and paint it up if I ever start a 30k army

 Yodhrin wrote:
That's what I mean though, jetbikes are a 30K unit. There's enough backtracking on the technological decline aspect of 40K already, they need to leave some stuff in the past or the idea that 40K constitutes any kind of meaningful decline as opposed to 30K just becomes nonsense.

Haha, good one. Pound to a penny that Primaris will get super special Cawl pattern Jetbikes!

 zedmeister wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:
That's what I mean though, jetbikes are a 30K unit. There's enough backtracking on the technological decline aspect of 40K already, they need to leave some stuff in the past or the idea that 40K constitutes any kind of meaningful decline as opposed to 30K just becomes nonsense.

Haha, good one. Pound to a penny that Primaris will get super special Cawl pattern Jetbikes!

Considering that there's literally a fluff popout in the new Codex that Guilliman and Cawl have given special dispensation to the Mechanicus Priesthood to continue researching and actively developing anti-grav tech...yeah.

Space Marines Codex p87 wrote:
Anti-Grav Technology
For millennia Mankind had lost the secrets to constructing anti-gravity devices, with only a few relics from the Dark Age of technology remaining. It was the discovery of an ancient STC by the famed Arkhan Land that led to a breakthrough in rediscovering and restoring the ancient technology. The Adeptus Mechanicus was able to once more produce anti-gravity generators and impeller units that --while nowhere near as elegant or refined as those heretical tecnologies used by certain xenos species--were robust, reliable and could be adapted for use on a variety of hulls, from light reconnaissance craft like the Land Speeder right up to the Astraeus super-heavy tank. With the direct sanction of both Roboute Guilliman and the Fabricator General of Mars, a select handful of chosen Tech-Priests continue research and development into new gravitic battle tanks with which to bolster the battle lines of the Adeptus Astartes.

I wouldn't be shocked for an "Ooops! We made it miniaturized and came up with these crazy new gravbikes! Woo!" moment to show up down the line.

 zedmeister wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 CragHack wrote:
Gotta love “nothing new, because reasons” FW Fridays

Ah yes only one unit for 30k marines so it's nothing new

In his defence, FW posted these late (around 1 and 1/2 hours later than usual) and he posted that before FW did.

Yeah, FW always adds their new things at 11 AM GMT +2. Now they were late. Nice looking bikes.

Guys, fluff discussion elsewhere please.

 Yodhrin wrote:

That's what I mean though, jetbikes are a 30K unit. There's enough backtracking on the technological decline aspect of 40K already, they need to leave some stuff in the past or the idea that 40K constitutes any kind of meaningful decline as opposed to 30K just becomes nonsense.

You do realise that Primaris jetbikes are pretty much inevitable at this point? I was disappointed that we didn't get them with the WS book though. Anyway, many HH units have 40K rules, and it would make perfect sense for FW to give their stuff rules in the much more popular system. (Not that what FW does makes much sense, it it did we would have had 40K rules for Mechanicum units years ago... Like they promised!)

Looking at the things end on in the 360 degree photos - how on earth do the drivers see where they're going?

 Yodhrin wrote:
That's what I mean though, jetbikes are a 30K unit. There's enough backtracking on the technological decline aspect of 40K already, they need to leave some stuff in the past or the idea that 40K constitutes any kind of meaningful decline as opposed to 30K just becomes nonsense.

I wonder what that is then:

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Dark-Angels-Sammael
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Adeptus-Custodes-Vertus-Praetors-2018

And even excuse "DA is the only one remaining" doesn't work, not since their 6th edition fluff.

Speaking of Custode bikes, I like how you can grab these, plus full White Scar FW upgrade pack, and have the WS jetbike unit (better looking, too) for half of the price of new FW ones. To make it even more ironic, 40K custode bikes have emblems fitting 30K marines (raptors and lighting bolts) to a T. I agree with gilljoy, they really should have made combined 30/40K plastic unit (would even fit on one sprue seeing how simplistic they look) and put it in White Scar supplement. Alas, that would require for the FW to get off its resin circlejerky horse...

 Irbis wrote:


Speaking of Custode bikes, I like how you can grab these, plus full White Scar FW upgrade pack, and have the WS jetbike unit (better looking, too) for half of the price of new FW ones.

Right? Its pretty sad when you think about it.

Bob Lorgar wrote:
Looking at the things end on in the 360 degree photos - how on earth do the drivers see where they're going?

Pfft! If you can see where you're going, you're not going fast enough!