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Annnd Fmir are still destruction... why? They were chaos before, (Unless im crazy and remembering differently) and suddenly switched to destruction last update which has now persisted.. They're even part of the Norsca faction in total war warhammer. Kinda annoying.

 Midnightdeathblade wrote:
Annnd Fmir are still destruction... why? They were chaos before, (Unless im crazy and remembering differently) and suddenly switched to destruction last update which has now persisted.. They're even part of the Norsca faction in total war warhammer. Kinda annoying.

I'm pretty sure they've always been Destruction?

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Midnightdeathblade wrote:
Annnd Fmir are still destruction... why? They were chaos before, (Unless im crazy and remembering differently) and suddenly switched to destruction last update which has now persisted.. They're even part of the Norsca faction in total war warhammer. Kinda annoying.

I'm pretty sure they've always been Destruction?

They've been since Age of Sigmar exists. Raised some eyebrows back then, too.

Well they got abandoned by chaos in favor of mortals way back then so I don't see a reason why they'd stay loyal anyway.

It's also a nice callback when they first introduced in Heroquest, no chaos association but top overseers of the orcs and goblins under the wizard's command.

One could take it they said screw you to the dark gods and went back to being greenskin top dogs.

Edit: TWW Norsca itself is kinda a oddfish too since they really should be more neutral than straight up chaos worshippers. There's Norscans for example who don't worship chaos but Yggdrasil. Certainly never had associations with Fimir who were swamp dwellers in the northern Empire.

Where are Sayls rules now? He is a fw model, right?

Well Mourngul went down 50 points cause it lost its 3+ Save. People wanted it cheaper so guess its still ok now. Also does mortal wounds on 6s to hit. Instead of boosting to3 damage

Also for the stormcast, asked on FB:

"Are Knights Excelissor in the new battletome for chamber rules?"

Warhammer Age of Sigmar We can't say for certain just yet, though it certainly looked like there was the helm of a Knight Excelsior in the vignette in the article..."

So id say last one is knights

Mourngul took a couple small nerfs to justify the points drop. They now have the same Ethereal rule as the other Nighthaunt units. Previously, theirs was slightly different. They could receive save bonuses, but not penalties (ever faced a 2+ Mourngul?). Now their save can't be modified, positive or negative.

 EnTyme wrote:
Mourngul took a couple small nerfs to justify the points drop. They now have the same Ethereal rule as the other Nighthaunt units. Previously, theirs was slightly different. They could receive save bonuses, but not penalties (ever faced a 2+ Mourngul?). Now their save can't be modified, positive or negative.

They had the 'old' Ethereal bit. It never got updated to match when the rest of the stuff did.

Yes. That's what I'm referring to.

I smell new sigmarines in the future ... plus new look (bottom)?

The guys in the light armor are Devoted of Sigmar, not Stormcast proper.

There *is* a new thing in the form of the "Stormcherubs" though.

What can do a Baby to be worthy of ascension?

Look like Sigmar mortal follower, like the Warpriest from Silver tower.

 Galas wrote:
What can do a Baby to be worthy of ascension?

You're thinking of it just being a baby Stormcast....

Maybe think, instead, of what Azyr might have had as a 'native' population? That's IMO at least.

 aracersss wrote:
I smell new sigmarines in the future ... plus new look (bottom)?

Spoiler:

So Dark Angels?

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Galas wrote:
What can do a Baby to be worthy of ascension?

You're thinking of it just being a baby Stormcast....

Maybe think, instead, of what Azyr might have had as a 'native' population? That's IMO at least.

Eh, Warhammer just likes using cherubs as background imagery. The sci-fi ones for 40k and fantasy had clockwork ones, these are just the running theme and went to the angelic faction's background fittingly enough. If there's any lore behind them then I imagine Sigmar's personal messangers.

The rest of that pic is just a Prime surrounded by Devoted though in better armor than their usual rags. (i have been hoping for storm squires at some point)

Last chamber is Ruination which should be their artillery. I imagine that'll be a small Extremis level release next year or so.

 Galas wrote:
What can do a Baby to be worthy of ascension?

Bounce a killing curse off its forehead?

Oh ho ho, nice reference! Extra points for lightning bolt theme.

Baron Klatz wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Galas wrote:
What can do a Baby to be worthy of ascension?

You're thinking of it just being a baby Stormcast....

Maybe think, instead, of what Azyr might have had as a 'native' population? That's IMO at least.

Eh, Warhammer just likes using cherubs as background imagery. The sci-fi ones for 40k and fantasy had clockwork ones, these are just the running theme and went to the angelic faction's background fittingly enough. If there's any lore behind them then I imagine Sigmar's personal messangers.

Heh...I'd imagine we'll find out if there's lore anytime soon.

The rest of that pic is just a Prime surrounded by Devoted though in better armor than their usual rags. (i have been hoping for storm squires at some point)

We didn't get an exact name for them or anything, but it was heavily implied that these are a unit we'll see down the road for Devoted of Sigmar.

Last chamber is Ruination which should be their artillery. I imagine that'll be a small Extremis level release next year or so.

They got too much flak for doing Extremis Chamber and Stormcast separately. That's the whole reason they got a second book so quickly and why all the Daemons have been rolled in with their Mortal matches, so that Vanguard Chamber could be rolled in as well. I don't know if we'll see the Ruination Chamber get a 'proper' release, or get fluffed out in a campaign event or something.

Ooh, updated heroic-style mortal fanatics? I'd love to see those!

Talk about a radical shift in the art direction for Stormcast. Instead of generic Sternface McBolthammer in his polished armour and colgate smile they're pushing the grimdark to 11. They tried the shiny cartoon helper hero thing and have only now realized that Space Marines are so popular exactly because that's what they aren't. I love it. I just wish they had started this way and that the models reflected it.

It does fit though, they've gone centuries of countless battles against everything from Grots to Greater Daemons and most have been reforged several times now with their bodies being torn apart and rebuilt. The wear and tear was inevitable.

Though there's no doubt still shining knightly heroes in their ranks like the new art on the AoS still shows. We're just getting a better mix now between heroes freshly reforged and battlescarred veterans who Guts from Berserk would approve of.

(Edit: also just now realizing the fellow in the middle with the black cropped hair looks just like my Stormcast that uses a Bretonnian knight errant's head with the same cut. Neat.)

They got too much flak for doing Extremis Chamber and Stormcast separately. That's the whole reason they got a second book so quickly and why all the Daemons have been rolled in with their Mortal matches, so that Vanguard Chamber could be rolled in as well. I don't know if we'll see the Ruination Chamber get a 'proper' release, or get fluffed out in a campaign event or something.

Oh indeed, I meant just the small elite size of the release rather than anything significant like that. Though I'm hoping they also release a Stormkeep alongside it as well to go along with more engineers and Order siege.

GW was getting better at cramming extras and bits onto sprues but these grimghast reaper sprues are kind of lacking in extra heads and customizable bits especially for a 10 man unit that needs variety. The kit looks good, but it looks they kind of rushed that one, or just reworked the starter set cad sculpts into multi part and called it done. The chainghast sprues look better to me.

Baron Klatz wrote:
It does fit though, they've gone centuries of countless battles against everything from Grots to Greater Daemons and most have been reforged several times now with their bodies being torn apart and rebuilt. The wear and tear was inevitable.

Though there's no doubt still shining knightly heroes in their ranks like the new art on the AoS still shows. We're just getting a better mix now between heroes freshly reforged and battlescarred veterans who Guts from Berserk would approve of.

(Edit: also just now realizing the fellow in the middle with the black cropped hair looks just like my Stormcast that uses a Bretonnian knight errant's head with the same cut. Neat.)

Agreed, and intentionally or no it's well done. They initially show up as mighty heroes, ideals that seem perfect. But time and war erodes that until they are still the 'good guys' overall but the perfect ideal has clearly fractured.

The Grimghasts may as well have been easy to builds it looks like they really only go together 1 way for a multi-part kit there's very little in the way of options.

Lady Olynder though has to be seen in 360 to really appreciate her, the front view just doesn't do justice to the model.

The endless spells continue in coloured plastic too.

EDIT: I found the art that I was looking for.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/06/29/battletome-preview-visions-of-the-mortal-realms/
And the cherubs that are around the Prime are called storm-cherubs according to the article.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/06/30/30th-june-the-warhammer-age-of-sigmar-open-day-live-bloggw-homepage-post-1/

Good pictures of some miniatures






Multipart kit




push fit

thanks Zammerion !

The Lord-Arcanum on Tauralon is excellent !!

I really want to find an excuse to use that mount for a Daughters of Khaine force. Might have to pretend its a dragon or something!

a little boring open day if they dont show anything else.. ( little preview of next army for example, new shadespire bands, or something really new..)


pd



I preferred the first rider they showed