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That evocator chick walking forward with the weapons held outwards is badass. Evocators just beg to have some lightning arcs made between the weapons (in the fluff that's what they do).

Lots of goodies today...

The Realmgate Wars starter set is being split into two Start Collectings for their respective factions.


Soul Wars supplemental stuff!


So the Thanos Knight-Incantor comes with the magazine.

So glad that these are coming out so soon (scheduled for pre order at the end of July), good work GW.

Huzzah! I was worried about the Relictor, this is a great compromise.

Davor wrote:
Anyone know how come the AoS app at least on iPad still don't have the new rules but the old ones.

It's looking like the update was either rushed or put in too early before it was really cleared. You can ask them about it but I think they're still catching up on fixing it so will release that version later.

Well, the unit sizes don't round off as well as I'd hoped. There's no way to really use all the models no matter what you buy.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Well, the unit sizes don't round off as well as I'd hoped. There's no way to really use all the models no matter what you buy.

Just need to buy five boxes of Soul Wars and then five boxes of Storm Strike. No problem.

Storm Strike being just £5 (or whatever your currency is) more than buying two of the latest release Easy To Build kits is a decent little deal. Hopefully a player local to you can swap the relevant faction so you can double up.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Well, the unit sizes don't round off as well as I'd hoped. There's no way to really use all the models no matter what you buy.

No, there's not a way to "use all the models no matter what you buy".
The units have options in the case of Sequitors.
Soul Wars+Storm Strike or the Easy Build for Sequitors=2 units, with options for running as one big block of 10 with 3 Greatmaces(plus a leader with Greatmace) or 2 blocks of 5 with a Greatmace each and your choice of 1 block having a Greatmace on the leader or a Mace+Shield on the leader.
Evocators are short a couple models for sure. No clue why; if I had to hazard a guess it's because the Evocator kit proper can build a Lord Arcanum on foot so you'd be shy a couple models there or they might have a weapon option in there.
Castigators are just weird.

Nighthaunt come out of it fairly well, barring the Grimghasts.

zamerion wrote:
New terrain:

Spoiler:

by battle bunnies

Memories of Mordheim being to converge...

 Moopy wrote:

zamerion wrote:
New terrain:

Spoiler:

by battle bunnies

Memories of Mordheim being to converge...

Personally I feel they look more like the Ruins of Osgiliath than the Mordheim terrain.

About time they did second levels. Was a pain doing it for the Azyerite ruins. Used goblintown wooden plans to try to make 2nd levels and sucked

 Kanluwen wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Well, the unit sizes don't round off as well as I'd hoped. There's no way to really use all the models no matter what you buy.

No, there's not a way to "use all the models no matter what you buy".


Nighthaunt come out of it fairly well, barring the Grimghasts.

The sole perk to having those stray Grimghast Reapers, is that I just preordered three boxes of them, and this way I can build a Doombell for each box in case I want to run three minimum units, while also having enough guys to run them as a WYSIWYG 30-ghost unit. I'm trying to silver lining how silly their inclusion in Soul Wars has been. :-p

On the other hand, their entire existence confuses me. As they were added into Legions of Nagash in the errata, they've instantly become superior to Grave Guard by such a huge margin that it is silly. I always hate it when a unit outright replaces another unit.

If you just write off the spare bell guys, three sets of nighthaunt from either the main or stripped down starter will give you 9 reapers and an extoller.

Of course, that will also give you three spare glaivewraiths....

Looks to me like the simplest thing is a conversion. Cut off the horse skull and the back spikes and glue on a regular skull cut in half. Add a little strip of green stuff for the blind fold. Finally cut off the spear blade and glue it sideways to look like a scythe.
I am not very good at converting but even with my poor skills I think I could get a decent looking change. If you buy soul wars and the larger mini set you will have a full unit of Reapers and 8 stalkers. This will make the nighthaunt half fully match play compliant.
The stormcast side is more difficult. You would have to convert 2 Castigators into sequitors to balance the set. This would be a much more difficult conversion.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 Hanskrampf wrote:
Man, the updated AoS app is terrible.
Formatting is missing from a lot of Warscrolls, so no indication if an ability is working on keyword or unit name, tables are fethed, words missing, rules sometimes plain wrong.
My Ironguts now have 20" range with their melee attacks for example.

Every time they update the app it gets unstable. Right now it's horrifically so. I give credit for GW making a ton of improvements in the past year and a half but the functionality of the app has only gotten worse, if anything. I was using it today for a game and it crashed whenever I changed the filter from one to another, whenever I tried to search for a specific warscroll, and several times for no apparent reason. Warscrolls had issues with formatting cropping words out, weird stuff like grundstock thunderers using a warscroll almost a year out of date, not being able to find documents other than battletomes, and just general buggyness.

The new edition of the app seems to work entirely differently - it's more like v1 of a new app than v 3.whatever of the old one. So far, it seems to work OK for me, apart from some odd filtering options (filter on "Order" faction keyword (not alliance) and you get the free peoples artillery, for example). Mor annoying is the removal of Spireguard, Reavers and the High Warden from the Swifthawk Agents. I was in the middle of a game yesterday using the un-updated app on my iPad, when the battery died. I switched to my iPhone, and it whad updated the app; I had to do the last turn and try to remember the stats for my High Warden. :0

thanks to garro.

A lot of easy builds.

 AndrewGPaul wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 Hanskrampf wrote:
Man, the updated AoS app is terrible.
Formatting is missing from a lot of Warscrolls, so no indication if an ability is working on keyword or unit name, tables are fethed, words missing, rules sometimes plain wrong.
My Ironguts now have 20" range with their melee attacks for example.

Every time they update the app it gets unstable. Right now it's horrifically so. I give credit for GW making a ton of improvements in the past year and a half but the functionality of the app has only gotten worse, if anything. I was using it today for a game and it crashed whenever I changed the filter from one to another, whenever I tried to search for a specific warscroll, and several times for no apparent reason. Warscrolls had issues with formatting cropping words out, weird stuff like grundstock thunderers using a warscroll almost a year out of date, not being able to find documents other than battletomes, and just general buggyness.

The new edition of the app seems to work entirely differently - it's more like v1 of a new app than v 3.whatever of the old one. So far, it seems to work OK for me, apart from some odd filtering options (filter on "Order" faction keyword (not alliance) and you get the free peoples artillery, for example). Mor annoying is the removal of Spireguard, Reavers and the High Warden from the Swifthawk Agents. I was in the middle of a game yesterday using the un-updated app on my iPad, when the battery died. I switched to my iPhone, and it whad updated the app; I had to do the last turn and try to remember the stats for my High Warden. :0

Played a game yesterday on the old version, updated today and the battalion I was using isn’t in it anymore. Kind of annoying. Are rules that aren’t in it not legal anymore or if I find where that battalion was printed can I still use it?

What battalion were you looking for? Curious if it has points in GHB18 but is anomalously missing in the app.

- Salvage

Forest Spirit Wargrove was the one I used last night. Ancient, couple Lords, a Wych, some Dryads. Get a bonus healing spell on your wizards and can “deepstrike” the members. It’s got a point cost listed in 2018 General’s book.

Previously I’d used Guardians of the Deepwood for the bonus Wyldwoods but that’s not even in the new General’s Handbook anymore.

 AduroT wrote:
Forest Spirit Wargrove was the one I used last night. Ancient, couple Lords, a Wych, some Dryads. Get a bonus healing spell on your wizards and can “deepstrike” the members. It’s got a point cost listed in 2018 General’s book.

Previously I’d used Guardians of the Deepwood for the bonus Wyldwoods but that’s not even in the new General’s Handbook anymore.

The app is full of errors at the moment. GW said they would put a patch out in the next week or two. Until then it is probably better to rely on ghb2018 and the latest round of faqs.

Maybe I'm out of the loop, but I don't remember the Lord Exorcist. Is he new, or did I just miss his announcement/release?

Nice to see they're doing a "get started" minirulebook for AOS. The 40k one has actually been pretty useful to me. Including what appears to be a unique Evocator is just icing on the cake. He'll be useful for building a Skirmish force.

 Barzam wrote:
Maybe I'm out of the loop, but I don't remember the Lord Exorcist. Is he new, or did I just miss his announcement/release?

He's new. Went up for preorder with the battletome.

Nice to see they're doing a "get started" minirulebook for AOS. The 40k one has actually been pretty useful to me. Including what appears to be a unique Evocator is just icing on the cake. He'll be useful for building a Skirmish force.

It's a Knight-Incantor that's available outside of the Soul War starter set rather than an Evocator.


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Chikout wrote:
Looks to me like the simplest thing is a conversion. Cut off the horse skull and the back spikes and glue on a regular skull cut in half. Add a little strip of green stuff for the blind fold. Finally cut off the spear blade and glue it sideways to look like a scythe.
I am not very good at converting but even with my poor skills I think I could get a decent looking change. If you buy soul wars and the larger mini set you will have a full unit of Reapers and 8 stalkers. This will make the nighthaunt half fully match play compliant.
The stormcast side is more difficult. You would have to convert 2 Castigators into sequitors to balance the set. This would be a much more difficult conversion.

Stormcast side is actually pretty easy when you take into account that Greatmaces are an option rather than a mandatory thing.

Tempest of Souls gives you an additional 5 Sequitors, 2 of which are Primes.
Couple those 5 with the 8 from the starter set, you have 13.
The breakdown becomes:
2 Primes with Greatmaces
2 Primes with Mace+Shield
3 males with Mace+Shield
3 female with Mace+Shield
3 Greatmace equipped models

With Sequitors, this gives you the ability to make, with Primes having whatever you want them to have:
2 units with a Prime, 3x Mace+Shield, and 1x Greatmace each
2 units with a Prime, 4x Mace+Shield and 0 Greatmaces
1 unit with a Prime, 6x Mace+Shield and 3 Greatmaces

The reason it's so weird in this regard is the sprues they give you for the Stormcast:

You end up with a similar set of circumstances when factoring in Castigators:
2 Castigator Primes
8 Castigators
This gives you 10, while a unit is sized at 3 with a Prime. Allows for you to do:
2 units of 3, with 2 regular Castigators leftover.
1 unit of 9 with 8 Castigators and a Prime--with a Prime leftover.

Adding in an Easy to Build set for the Castigators can let you do 2 units of 6 with a Prime leftover while giving you a third unit of 3 with 2 leftover.

Sequitors are much harder to utilize here but since they also look to be getting another option in the 10 man kit(the lantern sucking in souls), having so many Primes from Easy to Build/starter sets might not be a bad thing.

Well if stormcasts are going to have mounts with wings, were are my Beastclaw Riders with wing mounts?

Maybe I'm out of the loop, but I don't remember the Lord Exorcist. Is he new, or did I just miss his announcement/release? 

Nice to see they're doing a "get started" minirulebook for AOS. The 40k one has actually been pretty useful to me. Including what appears to be a unique Evocator is just icing on the cake. He'll be useful for building a Skirmish force.

Haha, agreed on both counts, was totally surprised to see him on their site and the minirulebook was really nice to see after I noticed before that the original one was on it's way out.

 AndrewGPaul wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 Hanskrampf wrote:
Man, the updated AoS app is terrible.
Formatting is missing from a lot of Warscrolls, so no indication if an ability is working on keyword or unit name, tables are fethed, words missing, rules sometimes plain wrong.
My Ironguts now have 20" range with their melee attacks for example.

Every time they update the app it gets unstable. Right now it's horrifically so. I give credit for GW making a ton of improvements in the past year and a half but the functionality of the app has only gotten worse, if anything. I was using it today for a game and it crashed whenever I changed the filter from one to another, whenever I tried to search for a specific warscroll, and several times for no apparent reason. Warscrolls had issues with formatting cropping words out, weird stuff like grundstock thunderers using a warscroll almost a year out of date, not being able to find documents other than battletomes, and just general buggyness.

The new edition of the app seems to work entirely differently - it's more like v1 of a new app than v 3.whatever of the old one. So far, it seems to work OK for me, apart from some odd filtering options (filter on "Order" faction keyword (not alliance) and you get the free peoples artillery, for example). Mor annoying is the removal of Spireguard, Reavers and the High Warden from the Swifthawk Agents. I was in the middle of a game yesterday using the un-updated app on my iPad, when the battery died. I switched to my iPhone, and it whad updated the app; I had to do the last turn and try to remember the stats for my High Warden. :0

Ah, too bad you didn't check the AoS section then, I had a photo link of his warscroll there.

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/759687.page

From faeit

no date


Preorder 14

Getting started with AoS is only €6.50 and it includes the Knight Incantor

The miniatures in Storm Strike are €48 on their own - should have waited

Good to see the Easy to Builds on the lower end of estimated costs and they seem to be doing them all in 1 week.

I guess the Black Coach will be the most expensive part of this release cycle, could be in the £70 to £85 range?

zamerion wrote:
From faeit

Spoiler:

no date


Preorder 14

To put in perspective for US posters:
6.50Euros=$8
20E=$25
24E=$30
32.50E=$40
35.00E=$45
40E=$50
65E=$85
97.50=$120.

Black Coach could indeed be expensive, but at the same time it really depends where GW want to price it too. Whilst its big a lot of its bigness is through its shape of its parts, rather than having a huge amount of chunky material to it. That said I'd think it closer to something like the Blood Cauldron and thus in the £50 area. Unless I've missjudged its size I think £70 might be too steep.

 DaveC wrote:
Getting started with AoS is only €6.50 and it includes the Knight Incantor

The miniatures in Storm Strike are €48 on their own - should have waited

Us 40kers learned that lesson this time last year. The First Strike/Storm Strike boxes are a terrific deal for a small pickup, and the bigger Tempest of Souls (formerly Thunder and Blood) box is a great way to expand on your big starter set. I'm most excited for the new Getting Started mag coming with a sweet character figure instead of the old paint demo Liberator.

Weird that Reikenor is EtB but not really cheaper than the other chars or a similiar one like the Akhelian King. The starters are as expected after the 40k ones. I have the "problem" that I really want the skull faced bird right now for a conversion, same as the banshees BUT they're sold out locally, anyway. So I might wait or double dip. Happy that the magazine comes with a cool mini, at that price, why not.

The Dreadblades at 20€ are okay-ish. Better than 24, but it's still two dudes on horses that are only 75% there and almost cost as much as some cavalry unit kits. With online prices they're okay, though. I bought two KoS on horsies from ebay yesterday for 23€, if the pricing stays at 11,50 per KoS over time I'm not sure I'll buy those guys.


PS: I'm not surprised that GW has its machines running round the clock with massive realeases like this. I did not expect them to crank out the Stormcast and the Nighthaunt AND the sorcery stuff at the same time. I wonder if the Idoneth being so drawn out was down to some production hickup? If Rogue Trader comes out soon I'll be even more impressed.