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ritualnet wrote:
The new stormcast are what are making me interested in this. Not sure why, as I hate regular stormcast (sigmarines!) but the new ones seem to have more character?

I just want to find out if I can have an army of just the new stuff, and not have the old staples like liberators etc.

Yup, you can.

Sequitors become Battleline if you take a Lord-Arcanum(the guy on the Gryph-Charger in the box) as your General. That's the most important part when it comes down to it, everything else is gravy.

So I eagerly waited until midnight to purchase and download the digital editions of the respective new battletomes, only to see that they aren’t available through I-tunes. The link on the webstore, which used to send you to i-tunes, now sends you to the Warhammer Digital website and its an epub.

I know that digital White Dwarf is kaput, but has that extended to digital codex/battletomes as well? I’d think not, as the GHB and Core rules are there on I-tunes. Has any news broken on the fate of digital battletomes that I missed, or is it just not released yet on i-tunes? I’ll hit the sack and see whats up in the morning.

Has there ever been talking of bringing the older battle tomes; Iron Jaws, Seraphon, Fyre Slayers, etc etc up to speed with revised books at all?

 Kurgash wrote:
Has there ever been talking of bringing the older battle tomes; Iron Jaws, Seraphon, Fyre Slayers, etc etc up to speed with revised books at all?

Without any new models to go with a new book, I'd imagine the older tomes will have to stick with GHB updates

Finally got those Myrmourn Banshees. Sold out online, sold out (or just not available) at stockists.

Had to go to GW proper to get them.

I want Warhammer Online to do a tutorial on their white sheet faces. It's just such an impressive use of shading/blending.

Stil no Banshees here.

I was about to go buy the Nighthaunts Battletome and the GW site says it's a flimsy 64 pages?! Half as big as the Idonth one? Is this a joke? Why is it half the pages for the same price.

 Binabik15 wrote:
Stil no Banshees here.

I was about to go buy the Nighthaunts Battletome and the GW site says it's a flimsy 64 pages?! Half as big as the Idonth one? Is this a joke? Why is it half the pages for the same price.

Says 88 on the GW site. Still, half the size of the Stormcast one. They generally do a standard price (the Custodes dex cost me the same as a SM one which has a lot more pages).

Yeah it's 88 pages. If you're still on the fence Lady Atia's friend did a review of it:

https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/3107

Might help you out.

 Binabik15 wrote:

 JonWebb wrote:

 Binabik15 wrote:
Quick question that the GW site didn't answer: is there a sort of work your way up campaign in the starter among all those books and booklets and leaflets? Like AoS1 or the even more helpful 40k ministarter had.

I'm mulling over getting the starter vs some more of the undead via ebay/proper unit kits to skip the weird mini-units that'd be left in the dust in matched play. An easy introduction for my nephew(s) might tip the balance.

Annoyingly not in the big box, but I bet the new £20 one with the four easy to build will have one.

I'd have loved one in the big box, so that there was a nice route through the content. Rather than have to build everything in one mass.

I'm way more into small games these days.

Still, nothing to stop someone writing one I guess.

Crap. The 40k ministarter has such a good booklet for a 7 year old to grasp the rules. The AoS one will verly linely have the same - but it's not even up for preorder yet. In a month their visit is long over.

Sigh. So I still don't know whether to buy the big starter or not.

Anyway you could convert the first starter books you mentioned into Soulswar ones? Adjust the troops and scenarios to use the new starter set forces/books and build around that?

 nels1031 wrote:
So I eagerly waited until midnight to purchase and download the digital editions of the respective new battletomes, only to see that they aren’t available through I-tunes. The link on the webstore, which used to send you to i-tunes, now sends you to the Warhammer Digital website and its an epub.

I know that digital White Dwarf is kaput, but has that extended to digital codex/battletomes as well? I’d think not, as the GHB and Core rules are there on I-tunes. Has any news broken on the fate of digital battletomes that I missed, or is it just not released yet on i-tunes? I’ll hit the sack and see whats up in the morning.

Did you check the app? They generally sell all their stuff on there as well.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Binabik15 wrote:
Stil no Banshees here.

I was about to go buy the Nighthaunts Battletome and the GW site says it's a flimsy 64 pages?! Half as big as the Idonth one? Is this a joke? Why is it half the pages for the same price.

Says 88 on the GW site. Still, half the size of the Stormcast one. They generally do a standard price (the Custodes dex cost me the same as a SM one which has a lot more pages).

Oh, so now the german version is smaller too. This has happened from one year now, the spanish and italian version of codex and battletomes dont have fluff in them.

 Galas wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Binabik15 wrote:
Stil no Banshees here.

I was about to go buy the Nighthaunts Battletome and the GW site says it's a flimsy 64 pages?! Half as big as the Idonth one? Is this a joke? Why is it half the pages for the same price.

Says 88 on the GW site. Still, half the size of the Stormcast one. They generally do a standard price (the Custodes dex cost me the same as a SM one which has a lot more pages).

Oh, so now the german version is smaller too. This has happened from one year now, the spanish and italian version of codex and battletomes dont have fluff in them.

Saves on the cost of translation getting just the rules done would be cheaper I would guess.

Yeah, thats why they do it. Is a bigger problem how full of errors the translations are, and all the english terms. I have no problem with "Stormcast eternals" but when you leave "warriors of chaos" unstranlated.... Urgh.

ritualnet wrote:
The new stormcast are what are making me interested in this. Not sure why, as I hate regular stormcast (sigmarines!) but the new ones seem to have more character?

Yeah, design of old ones was terrible. CCW that looked like tacticool machetes made in china, dumb looking hammers, bland design with no opportunities to break single dominant color (not even chest eagle or trim found on SM), everyone looking like a dull clone, terribly looking mounts. Now? Swords that actually look like swords, varied weapons that while over-designed don't make audience go 'HTF they use those?', various beasts look way better than at the start (especially lion-lizards), the army starts to actually feel like army, not hammer mob, and the clothing actually provides welcome breaks in monotony and opportunities to make models unique. Oh, and the first actually mixed gender units in WH (as in, not counting single sad token female ones) provide varied silhouettes and give the army greatly needed individuality in each model.

Speaking of which, is certain guy still claiming mixed gender units are "totally impossible, because the sprues are way too complicated for anyone to make, so girls should be kept out of the game"?

I guess my post was eaten by the web gods. I couldn't check in store because there was a Magic tourney and you basically had to hack your way through with a machete. They had no copies lying around, maybe the reserved copies were in the back and I DID have one reserved, but I'm not good with "oh, yeah, bring it to me and I might not even buy it after flicking through". So I didn't inquire further. Still a bit bummed, because they must have a ton of Nighthaunt stuff that was left out of the BT to be used in other publications if the book is so thin. Blergh.

Wussed out of getting the starter, too, but it was such a hectic day that I had trouble assembling the spirit hosts I bought; I guess I wouldn't even have the minis clipped from the sprues with kids bouncing around.

The 40k starter is nice because it has graphics and detailed examples of the roll you need for every step, which would be great for a reading beginner who is dyslexic. But the mini starter will arrive a some point and there's enough time to introduce them. But that getting started mag with a mini would've been really handy for a bday next week

 Irbis wrote:
Speaking of which, is certain guy still claiming mixed gender units are "totally impossible, because the sprues are way too complicated for anyone to make, so girls should be kept out of the game"?

Wait, someone actually said that? I thought that was one of those urban myths you hear about, like Slenderman, or Furbies…

Yeah that's crazy. I mean it's an actual thing for games like total war where the devs actually said that's too much variation for the engine but for models....wow.

I guess my post was eaten by the web gods. I couldn't check in store because there was a Magic tourney and you basically had to hack your way through with a machete.

Yeesh, just not your day. Hope things go smoother for you and the tykes take up interest in the hobby a bit.

Yeah, design of old ones was terrible.

I'm opposite, I liked the baroque armored Hoplite/Darksouls boss look better and though I'm collecting the Sacrosanct as specialized holy order knights I'm still focusing on the original chambers + the Vanguard. Very happy GW are continuing them as the mainline Azyr knights and even easier to get them with the new starter set that's the original starter's Stormcast force.

, bland design with no opportunities to break single dominant color (not even chest eagle or trim found on SM), 

I think you're rather judging at a glance there. :p
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ae/f9/af/aef9af4501724d72bdf5013681982f3c.jpg

I’ve not build my Liberators or the bow guys whose names I forget, but the Lord Castellant is annoying with stupid seams running thru the shoulder pads and his feet not resting flat.

 AduroT wrote:
I’ve not build my Liberators or the bow guys whose names I forget, but the Lord Castellant is annoying with stupid seams running thru the shoulder pads and his feet not resting flat.

Nothing infuriates me more than joins along the shoulder pad.

 Irbis wrote:
Yeah, design of old ones was terrible.

This is just another vanilla SM to Dark Angels transition. Hardly a tectonic shift in design.

And frankly, as far as I'm concerned, the maces are as bad as the hammers.

 His Master's Voice wrote:

 Irbis wrote:
Yeah, design of old ones was terrible.

This is just another vanilla SM to Dark Angels transition. Hardly a tectonic shift in design.

And frankly, as far as I'm concerned, the maces are as bad as the hammers.

Vanilla SM to mixed gendered Dark Angels. I love them, they just need hoods now.

Well, both genders use the exact same design, so that's kinda beside the point.

I like much more the siluette of the femenine stormcast. They look bulky, but not so hulk-like as the males.

 Irbis wrote:

ritualnet wrote:
The new stormcast are what are making me interested in this. Not sure why, as I hate regular stormcast (sigmarines!) but the new ones seem to have more character?

Yeah, design of old ones was terrible. CCW that looked like tacticool machetes made in china, dumb looking hammers, bland design with no opportunities to break single dominant color (not even chest eagle or trim found on SM), everyone looking like a dull clone, terribly looking mounts. Now? Swords that actually look like swords, varied weapons that while over-designed don't make audience go 'HTF they use those?', various beasts look way better than at the start (especially lion-lizards), the army starts to actually feel like army, not hammer mob, and the clothing actually provides welcome breaks in monotony and opportunities to make models unique. Oh, and the first actually mixed gender units in WH (as in, not counting single sad token female ones) provide varied silhouettes and give the army greatly needed individuality in each model.

Speaking of which, is certain guy still claiming mixed gender units are "totally impossible, because the sprues are way too complicated for anyone to make, so girls should be kept out of the game"?

So the range is evolving like every gw range ever. Seriously most of your points are just strawmanning. I’m also looking forward to the hordes of young women who are about to descend on miniature wargaming.

I love the new female Stormcast. It shows that GW is listening, since people were asking about it literally since day one. Putting one on the cover of the 2.0 rulebook really sells the idea and their commitment to it. In fact, I hope they go back and redo the Liberators with some Femcast. Blacktalon and Brightshield are too cool to not make it into Liberators proper. I wouldn't mind some Femcast Prosecutors either - though mixed gender units may affect how customizible they are, since you'd need doubles of every option.

BUT... I don't think the new chapter of Stormcast are objectively better than the old stuff. Some of my favorite models come from the early stuff (Lord Relictor, Javelin Prosecutors, Celestant Prime). If people are liking the new designs more, I think it is probably because when the original Stormcast were announced, it came with a lot of baggage, and maybe over time, people have come to not look at Age of Sigmar or the Stormcast with the same disdain. It's not the models that have improved, it's the players' attitude.

 Sqorgar wrote:


BUT... I don't think the new chapter of Stormcast are objectively better than the old stuff. Some of my favorite models come from the early stuff (Lord Relictor, Javelin Prosecutors, Celestant Prime). If people are liking the new designs more, I think it is probably because when the original Stormcast were announced, it came with a lot of baggage, and maybe over time, people have come to not look at Age of Sigmar or the Stormcast with the same disdain. It's not the models that have improved, it's the players' attitude.

Speaking as someone who was on board with AoS and the Stormcast from the start, I do still find the Sacrosanct Chamber a significant improvement, Sequitors over Liberators especially (though I concur, some of the early heroes were awesome). The main things for me are the robes/tabards adding a much greater sense of motion and dynamism, and the less blocky weapons I just prefer aesthetically.

I also think the inclusion of the female models and the bare heads helps with adding some personality, as much as I liked the originals I did feel the initial offerings were rather samey and faceless.

What’s with this obsession with having mixed gender everything in a miniatures war game? It’s strikes me as the same phemona as women in the lead role in action or adventure movies. Both aren’t in the least compelling to me,as both seem so disconnected from anything that could be possible. Women aren’t soldiers or warriors, or generally heroic at all in that context. Seems a bit loopy to me, maybe someone could explain.

Dread Master wrote:
What’s with this obsession with having mixed gender everything in a miniatures war game? It’s strikes me as the same phemona as women in the lead role in action or adventure movies. Both aren’t in the least compelling to me,as both seem so disconnected from anything that could be possible. Women aren’t soldiers or warriors, or generally heroic at all in that context. Seems a bit loopy to me, maybe someone could explain.

Jep, and that's where you wrong, right there after the question mark. Why wouldn't there be female warriors or heroes. History is full of them. You view is antiquated, discriminating and shameful for everyone

Dread Master wrote:
What’s with this obsession with having mixed gender everything in a miniatures war game? It’s strikes me as the same phemona as women in the lead role in action or adventure movies. Both aren’t in the least compelling to me,as both seem so disconnected from anything that could be possible. Women aren’t soldiers or warriors, or generally heroic at all in that context. Seems a bit loopy to me, maybe someone could explain.

This is so much nonsense that it almost has to be trolling.

Joan of Arc pretty much turned the tide of the Hundred years war on her own and she was a teen. That's off the top of my head before even trying.

Crawl back into whichever hole you came out of. Your views are antiquated, ridiculous and inflammatory. Wholly unecessary here.

Bloodmaster wrote:

Dread Master wrote:
What’s with this obsession with having mixed gender everything in a miniatures war game? It’s strikes me as the same phemona as women in the lead role in action or adventure movies. Both aren’t in the least compelling to me,as both seem so disconnected from anything that could be possible. Women aren’t soldiers or warriors, or generally heroic at all in that context. Seems a bit loopy to me, maybe someone could explain.

Jep, and that's where you wrong, right there after the question mark. Why wouldn't there be dermal warriors or heroes. History is full of them. You view is antiquated, discriminating and shameful for everyone

Catch yourself on and leave the identity politics out of the hobby please