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 streetsamurai wrote:
still cant believe they haven,t redone the basic night gobbos. They look so gakky and outdated compared to the new stuff

I gotta disagree. Imo they hold up really well against the new stuff.

Glad they have those Gobbos and not the even older kit.

I didn't even know 7th edition models count as old stuff.

Who needs basic night goblin models anyway when you have the superior battle for skull pass ones. I never liked how the robes mix with the shoulder and the arms in the multipart kit.

I'm looking at doing a 'Squigalanche' list. The oldest model that I'll need is the Fungoid Cave Shaman from last year...

Yeah they’re fine.
They look like the new stuff still. Particularly in the face and such.

Yeah the old ones. Bulky as bloody zombies

I like the infantry kit for two reasons; it has aged well and it is simple. The body and head is one piece, then each arm is one piece. There is little detail. For a unit that is used in potentially multiple 40+ man blobs this is a VERY good thing.


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Danny76 wrote:
Also,

You wouldn’t need to have the goblin in the squig model, if they’d just made the legs bit modular.
Because I’d bet you could put a closed mouth over the goblin himself as it’s just a face (judging by all the rest any face fits on any body/throat.

But then a different one would just have random legs on his teeth (bit of work cutting off in order if I ever got the kit twice..


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 lord_blackfang wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 TBD wrote:

Btw, is there any reason not to put the two Mangler Squigs on separate bases and use them as "Loonboss(es) on Giant Cave Squig"?

Don't see why not. Put them on a scenic base so they're as tall as the stock model, so TFG doesn't whine about LOS.

The Loonboss on Giant Cave Squig comes on a 40mm square base currently. Manglers come on an 80mm round base. If anything the Manglers may be a bit too big.

I skimmed too quickly, thought he meant making two Manglers out of one.

And for sure, always a good idea, one boss one normal. Makes the price a lot better.

Do note that GW requires kits to be complete, so official GW events would probably disqualify 'half-manglers'. Outside of that it could probably slide so long as one corrected the height issue. And obviously casual play only TFG will care.

Do they? Understandable I suppose.
But I wonder if there’s leeway there.

I can imagine if someone had a Kharadron airship of some kind with one mangler on top, bringing it to roughly the right height, then it’d be ok.
But that’s probably because you’ve spent more money on the airship kit so they let it slide.


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Side note.
I don’t have money spare or time for these goblins, or AoS really which is why I haven’t delved into it yet.
But if someone gives me a load of night goblins on rounds, I would surely buy a lot of squigs.. and find the time

 Future War Cultist wrote:
Could a new one be on the way?

Yes? I mean, I kinda assumed that was the case with the new ‘rank’ of flesheater vampire king being released with that skaven dude.

flesh eater courts need direly new models, just like the ice ogres

TBD wrote:
What base size does a Loonboss on Giant Cave Squigs have?

The old model had the same base size as a regular troll.

streetsamurai wrote:The mangler squig is terrific. I hate the concept, but it's an incredible mini.

I thought so too, but then somebody pointed out the tiny feet of the manglers.
They look really weird to me now :-/

NinthMusketeer wrote:Do note that GW requires kits to be complete, so official GW events would probably disqualify 'half-manglers'.

Wouldn't they count as conversions?

 Arnizipal wrote:

Wouldn't they count as conversions?

Reading the guidelines for Warhammer World games, simply splitting the Mangler Squigs and sticking both on a simple piece of rock would probably be frowned upon? I think? But base both on an tidal wave of smaller squigs and it should be fine? I suppose?

The cynical me wants to say that the conversion if fine as long as it cost you as much as the base model would

Maybe chain each half to a big wrecking ball? Like a giant fanatic. That could get the same profile, for a relatively cheap conversion.

 Arnizipal wrote:

streetsamurai wrote:The mangler squig is terrific. I hate the concept, but it's an incredible mini.

I thought so too, but then somebody pointed out the tiny feet of the manglers.
They look really weird to me now :-/

I have a cure for that, at the end of which you'll accept the squig feet just fine but will take exception to the humongous feet on all of GW's other models.

 Geifer wrote:

I have a cure for that, at the end of which you'll accept the squig feet just fine but will take exception to the humongous feet on all of GW's other models.

Does it involve 'shrooms?

It looks like some people misunderstood what I want do:

I want a plastic "Loonboss on Giant Cave Squig", not alter the model for the "Mangler Squig" battletome entry.

Since Mangler Squigs are two Giant Cave Squigs chained together splitting the kit up into two separate Loonbosses on Giant Cave Squigs on separate bases as separate army list entries would seem obvious, right? There is no high issue because we are not messing with the Mangler entry. And btw no tournaments or anything official will ever be played with this model.

So that leaves the question what (minimum) base size would this single plastic Loonboss on GCS have to have? Since the outdated Finecast model on GW's website with said name is too tiny, and the artists formerly known as Skarsnik & Gobbla (who is of course also a Giant Cave Squig) and this too-small Finecast GCS riding Loonboss will most likely get two different round base sizes once GW updates them from square to round, it seems unclear.

I was thinking a 50mm base would be good (provided the plastic Giant Squig fits on that base)? Maybe 60mm?

 TBD wrote:
Since Mangler Squigs are two Giant Cave Squigs chained together...

What leads you to that conclusion? The unit name is 'Mangler Squigs' as in there are two Mangler Squigs making up the unit. The Giant Cave Squig can be found on the old Skarsnik and Gobbla model and the Loonboss on Giant Cave Squig model which shows the Giant Cave Squig is smaller than a single Mangler Squig.

 Ghaz wrote:

 TBD wrote:
Since Mangler Squigs are two Giant Cave Squigs chained together...

What leads you to that conclusion? The unit name is 'Mangler Squigs' as in there are two Mangler Squigs making up the unit. The Giant Cave Squig can be found on the old Skarsnik and Gobbla model and the Loonboss on Giant Cave Squig model which shows the Giant Cave Squig is smaller than a single Mangler Squig.

The new battletome literally says Mangler Squigs are two Giant Cave Squigs chained together on page 31.

 TBD wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

 TBD wrote:
Since Mangler Squigs are two Giant Cave Squigs chained together...

What leads you to that conclusion? The unit name is 'Mangler Squigs' as in there are two Mangler Squigs making up the unit. The Giant Cave Squig can be found on the old Skarsnik and Gobbla model and the Loonboss on Giant Cave Squig model which shows the Giant Cave Squig is smaller than a single Mangler Squig.

The new battletome literally says Mangler Squigs are two Giant Cave Squigs chained together on page 31.

I think it's a good idea and I'll probably do the same. Not a fan of the old model and with some creativity this would look much better. Just put it on the same size base. If people get picky then have the boss hanging off the side at the right height.

 TBD wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

 TBD wrote:
Since Mangler Squigs are two Giant Cave Squigs chained together...

What leads you to that conclusion? The unit name is 'Mangler Squigs' as in there are two Mangler Squigs making up the unit. The Giant Cave Squig can be found on the old Skarsnik and Gobbla model and the Loonboss on Giant Cave Squig model which shows the Giant Cave Squig is smaller than a single Mangler Squig.

The new battletome literally says Mangler Squigs are two Giant Cave Squigs chained together on page 31.

Lowercase "g".

I get where you're coming from in the idea, but it makes it sound like they are not specifically "Giant Cave Squigs" but some aberrant gigantic breed.

 Arnizipal wrote:

 Geifer wrote:

I have a cure for that, at the end of which you'll accept the squig feet just fine but will take exception to the humongous feet on all of GW's other models.

Does it involve 'shrooms?

Doesn't everything?

 Kanluwen wrote:

 TBD wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

 TBD wrote:
Since Mangler Squigs are two Giant Cave Squigs chained together...

What leads you to that conclusion? The unit name is 'Mangler Squigs' as in there are two Mangler Squigs making up the unit. The Giant Cave Squig can be found on the old Skarsnik and Gobbla model and the Loonboss on Giant Cave Squig model which shows the Giant Cave Squig is smaller than a single Mangler Squig.

The new battletome literally says Mangler Squigs are two Giant Cave Squigs chained together on page 31.

Lowercase "g".

I get where you're coming from in the idea, but it makes it sound like they are not specifically "Giant Cave Squigs" but some aberrant gigantic breed.

Honestly there is nothing there that makes it sound like they don't specifically mean "Giant Cave Squig". If something is aberrantly gigantic in GW's world they never fail to point these things out.

The outdated Finecast model on the website looks to be about the same size as the new plastic Squig Hopper Squigs and those aren't riding "Giant Cave Squigs", so that thing can hardly be called a giant with a straight face, come on now. GW should have retired it really but I guess they have too many littering the warehouses still

I just think everyone likes saying "Mangler Squig".

TBD, that sounds like an excellent conversion. If they're too big for the recommended base size, do it anyway. I would love to see giant squigs tottering off a small base, loonboss flailing nearby.

Whilst I was considering getting into Loonspite on the strength of the models alone, I did consider modelling the loon boss on mangler squig on a single mangler only, and using the other one as a basis of a converted squig lobba. (At$83 US it might justify the price with a little bit of conversion work and green stuff.)

Ultimately decided the art direction wasn't my thing, but tons of potential for conversion sin the range.

What I'm most excited about is the upcoming Skaven news. With all the references in the literature, Underworld models and art pieces like the one below, I'm hoping against hope that Skaven get more new kits than Beastmen got.

 Hive City Dweller wrote:
I'm hoping against hope that Skaven get more new kits than Beastmen got.

Well, we know they're getting a new hero, so mission accomplished

I kid, I kid. I already told my wallet we'd be getting 2 Carrion Empire boxes and everything else that comes out for both armies.

 TBD wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 TBD wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

 TBD wrote:
Since Mangler Squigs are two Giant Cave Squigs chained together...

What leads you to that conclusion? The unit name is 'Mangler Squigs' as in there are two Mangler Squigs making up the unit. The Giant Cave Squig can be found on the old Skarsnik and Gobbla model and the Loonboss on Giant Cave Squig model which shows the Giant Cave Squig is smaller than a single Mangler Squig.

The new battletome literally says Mangler Squigs are two Giant Cave Squigs chained together on page 31.

Lowercase "g".

I get where you're coming from in the idea, but it makes it sound like they are not specifically "Giant Cave Squigs" but some aberrant gigantic breed.

Honestly there is nothing there that makes it sound like they don't specifically mean "Giant Cave Squig". If something is aberrantly gigantic in GW's world they never fail to point these things out.

The outdated Finecast model on the website looks to be about the same size as the new plastic Squig Hopper Squigs and those aren't riding "Giant Cave Squigs", so that thing can hardly be called a giant with a straight face, come on now. GW should have retired it really but I guess they have too many littering the warehouses still

To be fair, they aren’t the only thing that’s just gotten bigger. Nagash got a lot bigger, Black Coach, I’m sure some other stuff too

Danny76 wrote:

To be fair, they aren’t the only thing that’s just gotten bigger. Nagash got a lot bigger, Black Coach, I’m sure some other stuff too

Well, the Coach is an odd case since it's a new unit that awkwardly has the same name as an old unit, but they are seperate models for seperate armies. GW logic.

Yeah true.
I’m sure some stuff has gotten bigger.

With these giant squigs I guess you just get several sizes of giant..

Yeah, I don't think "Giant Squig" is a distinct species with its own defined size. It's just what they call a squig that's bigger than the norm.