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The point.
You missed it.

We've known about the books for awhile. We have a whole "Coming Soon" section that tells us months in advance. They've talked about it time and time again.

They don't view those as "preorders" I might add.

Until he makes a 6x4 table entirely out of enduring stormvaults he still has work left.

 Kanluwen wrote:
The point.
You missed it.

We've known about the books for awhile. We have a whole "Coming Soon" section that tells us months in advance. They've talked about it time and time again.

They don't view those as "preorders" I might add.

Not everyone keeps up with the Black Library releases...

 Ghaz wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
The point.
You missed it.

We've known about the books for awhile. We have a whole "Coming Soon" section that tells us months in advance. They've talked about it time and time again.

They don't view those as "preorders" I might add.

Not everyone keeps up with the Black Library releases...

Mind your tone please - BrookM

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
The point.
You missed it.

We've known about the books for awhile. We have a whole "Coming Soon" section that tells us months in advance. They've talked about it time and time again.

They don't view those as "preorders" I might add.

Not everyone keeps up with the Black Library releases...

Mind your tone please - BrookM

Chill out, that’s a whole other thread that some of us go into.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

zamerion wrote:
so.. there arent preorders next week?

Seems that way.

GW's Facebook page says there will be some Black Library releases on the 8th.

OH BOY! SOME BLACK LIBRARY RELEASES!


It's "Titandeath", "Old Earth", and "Gotrek and Felix: Third Omnibus".
It's right here.

It's nothing exciting, nothing fun, nothing interesting. It's just stuff that would have been coming out anyways.

Hey! I'm excited about Gotrek and Felix 3rd!

Asides which this kind of shows us how spoilt we've been over the last few years by GW that a week without new models/stuff is actually looked down upon whereas not long ago we could have gone a month or more without a major release nor even any preview hints either. Heck whilst 2019 and into 2020 I expect to be heavy on releases as GW keeps updating AoS, I figure after that we will eventually see their release pace slow down. Even GW has admitted in their shareholders meetings that their current pace is not a long term pattern they expect to continue.
Which isn't to say that they will go back to nothing, but that likely once all the battletomes/codex are released we will see longer release windows as GW spreads out larger army releases and updates; though this might well be masked by them having more specialist games so we could just see more specialist week releases filling up longer main-line game release gaps.

It's pretty clear to me that the gap in the schedule is the result of the Sylvaneth delay. As we have seen from the battletome leak it was probably intended to go up for pre-order last the week before last. Forbidden Power was moved up to fill the slot but that has left a gap next week. Hopefully we don't see any more similar delays.

 DaveC wrote:
Ray's been posting more terrain features on Twitter

https://twitter.com/RayDranfield



Impressive but needs 4! Enduring Stormvaults to make it!!!

Spoiler:

If I had more money than sense* I'd totally do that, too. These assemblies exemplify why I think so highly of the temple design. It's simple but has a lot of potential for larger complexes.


*Not a high bar, I realize. Sense is overrated anyway.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Until he makes a 6x4 table entirely out of enduring stormvaults he still has work left.

With dungeons underneath or it doesn't count!

With glue (or pegs if you got really keen) you could certainly use them to build an underground maze of rooms and structures all supporting a play table made up of the terrain! An epic if obnoxiously expensive way to build a classy table!

I tried to build my Galvanic Magnavent or whatever the terrain from the IK: Renegade box is called without a manual (split box, might be at my brother's place or I threw it out...) and boy am I not good at this. Terrain really is a different beast compared to models where I'll stick bits from ten different kits together no problem and it'll look good. So I really appreciate the AoS stuff being simpler

I'll wait for the Warcry box, though, and see how that combines with the Stormvault stuff. Well, maybe a box of the scatter stuff won't hurt, right?

PS: I REALLY wish they'd bring back the WHFB buldings back, though, that chapell would fit right in with the super ornamental AoS stuff.

I think we're all wishing they'd bring WHFB terrain back.

There's still a piece or so available. The Warscryer Citadel looks like it's still available despite being on 'Last Chance to Buy' for several months. Also the Sigmarite Mausoleum, Magewrath Throne and Balewind Vortex are stil available, all are old WHFB terrain pieces.

Warscryer is gone from the UK store though

So they’d commented on Community that you wouldn’t have to replace your existing Woods for the new ones, but the battletome only had rules for the new ones.

 AduroT wrote:
So they’d commented on Community that you wouldn’t have to replace your existing Woods for the new ones, but the battletome only had rules for the new ones.

Yeah, because the old ones are just considered the same as the new ones.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 AduroT wrote:
So they’d commented on Community that you wouldn’t have to replace your existing Woods for the new ones, but the battletome only had rules for the new ones.

Yeah, because the old ones are just considered the same as the new ones.

That’s going to make them really hard to use the old ones given the rules for an Awakened Wyldwood is 3-6 Citadel Woods.

 Overread wrote:
Warscryer is gone from the UK store though

Tell me about it, by the time i could afford one it was gone :(

 AduroT wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 AduroT wrote:
So they’d commented on Community that you wouldn’t have to replace your existing Woods for the new ones, but the battletome only had rules for the new ones.

Yeah, because the old ones are just considered the same as the new ones.

That’s going to make them really hard to use the old ones given the rules for an Awakened Wyldwood is 3-6 Citadel Woods.

It's the same size footprint from what's been said. Just 'open' rather than 'closed' like the current one.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 AduroT wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 AduroT wrote:
So they’d commented on Community that you wouldn’t have to replace your existing Woods for the new ones, but the battletome only had rules for the new ones.

Yeah, because the old ones are just considered the same as the new ones.

That’s going to make them really hard to use the old ones given the rules for an Awakened Wyldwood is 3-6 Citadel Woods.

It's the same size footprint from what's been said. Just 'open' rather than 'closed' like the current one.

Yes, it’s the same size, but now you have to use more of them. It was 1-3 Woods for a Wyldwood. Now it’s 3-6. It’s not easy to put three Woods on a board 1” away from everything else.

So why does that make it "really hard to use the old ones" specifically?

I would assume it means individual trees now as apposed to the entire base if using the original model, rather than 3 whole Citadel Woods

warl0rdb0b wrote:
I would assume it means individual trees now as apposed to the entire base if using the original model, rather than 3 whole Citadel Woods

I doubt it, because the current Sylvaneth Wyldwood is 1-3 sets of Citadel Woods.

The way they’re describing a Wyldwood, they’re counting each crescent piece of the new model as a separate Citadel Wood. Trying to make a Wyldwood, using the new rules for a Wyldwood, but the old models for a Citadel Wood would be nearly impossible on most tables. Battletome alone, you’ll need to replace all your old Woods with the new ones. It’s going to require an FAQ/Errata otherwise.

Yeah, the battletome rules don't cover the old woods in any real way. I assume the intent is to treat an existing wood as a Wyldwood and maybe if we're lucky set two up against each other so that a Wyldwood is defined as 3-6 "trees".

That would be acceptable, though gone are my days of terraforming the board based on the pdf.

 AduroT wrote:
That would be acceptable, though gone are my days of terraforming the board based on the pdf.

The 6' away from an objective hurts a lot.

 Sasori wrote:

 AduroT wrote:
That would be acceptable, though gone are my days of terraforming the board based on the pdf.

The 6' away from an objective hurts a lot.

That and they removed the spell that makes more and Treelord Ancients are limited to one a game, but that one doesn’t require a roll. Still have the acorn though.

 AduroT wrote:

 Sasori wrote:

 AduroT wrote:
That would be acceptable, though gone are my days of terraforming the board based on the pdf.

The 6' away from an objective hurts a lot.

That and they removed the spell that makes more and Treelord Ancients are limited to one a game, but that one doesn’t require a roll. Still have the acorn though.

They didn't remove it. It's just hidden at the top of the spell page. EVERY Sylvaneth Wizard inherently knows it now without taking up their spell slot.

 LunarSol wrote:

 AduroT wrote:

 Sasori wrote:

 AduroT wrote:
That would be acceptable, though gone are my days of terraforming the board based on the pdf.

The 6' away from an objective hurts a lot.

That and they removed the spell that makes more and Treelord Ancients are limited to one a game, but that one doesn’t require a roll. Still have the acorn though.

They didn't remove it. It's just hidden at the top of the spell page. EVERY Sylvaneth Wizard inherently knows it now without taking up their spell slot.

Yeah, every Sylvaneth wizard knows it now, which is actually nice.

One thing is, only the first wyldwood has to be 6' away from an objective. Each time you create one after that, it only has to be 1' away, which is nice. It also doesn't follow the enemy territory restrictions. They also increased the range on the acron and verdant blessing.

The big thing is now getting first turn with a big 1 or 2 drop list is going to be nearly impossible now, without paying for the subpar battalions.

Yeah, Citadel Wood now seems to refer to a single tree with the crescent footprint, while the model formerly known as Citadel Wood was an area feature with three trees. Awakened Wyldwood consists of 3-6 Citadel Woods, but I expect there'll be an FAQ one way or the other about how to coutn the old ones.

A simple solution might be to redefine Citadel Wood to mean either a single new tree or a single old tree, and call it a day.

In any case, I was thinking about it - the most Awakened Wyldwoods you'd have is... 8? 5 rounds, item, allegiance ability, and duplicate allegiance for the megabattalion. I guess if Alarielle kills a unit you could have more - you'd tap out at another 5 if she killed a unit each turn.