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GaroRobe wrote:
I don't know why, but I thought the General Greviouses had a bunch of nipples on the front of their chests. Turns out, its bolts or something for their armor.


Or is it....

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I think you should paint your Bone guys a fleshy pale and realize your artistic vision!

Glad to see the firebellys added to the magic lores. I'm a little disappointed that they never got expanded into a full army list, as I thought the one model had some cool design aesthetics. I'm looking forward to getting the Ogors book, and hopefully they'll get some new models other than the tyrant.

Also... Slaves to Darkness!!!

 skullking wrote:
Glad to see the firebellys added to the magic lores. I'm a little disappointed that they never got expanded into a full army list, as I thought the one model had some cool design aesthetics. I'm looking forward to getting the Ogors book, and hopefully they'll get some new models other than the tyrant.

Also... Slaves to Darkness!!!

Pretty much on the same page here!


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Voss wrote:

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 NinthMusketeer wrote:

Voss wrote:
I dunno, they're ugly models, but some of the paint jobs do help.

The rules don't. Way too many rules-exceptions and 'even more better because we're new,' which I thought GW had worked past.

Rules exceptions? There's run & charge for one subfaction but that's relatively common. The army ignores battleshock, but for an elite army with bravery 10 across the board that amounts of a small upgrade. Did I miss some?

Probably referring to the artefact that ignores all saves and wound-negation, which is only available to the anti-magic faction, and possibly ignoring that it is a singular item that does nothing useful against hordes, likely mostly because it’s specifically called out as countering Gotrek. Which is silly because it doesn’t actually counter Avatar of Grimnir at all…

Nope. I'm referring to nothing of the sort.

I was referring to immune to battleshock (no matter how 'small' an upgrade it is), and negate wounds, and roll a bunch of dice for bonus not!command points and treating troops as heroes with their own command abilities, plus the various modifiers for each unit and subfaction.

See though, those aren't rules exceptions; they are just rules.

I too have often longed for more Ogres.

Guess I'll have to supplement with a bunch of Mierce stuff for the time being!

The ogre range was never large. One basic infantry, two elite infantry, one missile infantry, one cavalry.
However the new tyrant is nice. I wonder if i can fudge him onto a 40x40 base.

 Orlanth wrote:
The ogre range was never large. One basic infantry, two elite infantry, one missile infantry, one cavalry.
However the new tyrant is nice. I wonder if i can fudge him onto a 40x40 base.

An appropriately shaped rock always solves the problem!

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 DaveC wrote:
Faeit 212 got the US price lists and Feast of Bones is $195 looks like GW changed their exchange rate again

Brutal.

You'd think this would help insulate us from price hikes, and maybe it does to some small extent, but...probably not.

£115 in the real world = $149 USD.

£115 in GW World = $195 USD.

Yuck.

The good thing is I think it is getting close to a ceiling here. The fact that Blood of the Phoenix is still around and available everywhere means that people are actually starting to get sticker shock to the point of stopping to buy. With Feast of Bones being $195 in USA I debated it but in all honesty it is too much. The value really isn't there because the price is so overinflated. There is only one thing we can do as consumers and that is NOT purchase it. If we get enough people not impulse buying everything that is released, hopefully we can see the prices balance out. There really is no reason for this box set to be above $160. Even $160 is getting hard to justify for a full box set, which this is not. This is just two small armies like everything else they have been releasing. Seeing as how the new Necromunda is about to release I think my days of impulse buying need to be over. Save up for the few purchases that make sense and stop trying to convince myself that paying for these limited box sets are an actual value. I don't see the value of paying near 200 and I sure didn't see the value in the 230 for Blood of the Phoenix. Gotta start some tough love. GW is out of control with their prices and only us the consumer can change that.

So that distribution sheet or what not listed a Slaves to Darkness release. I imagine if we are going to see one, we'll probably see it previewed at Blood and Glory the weekend after this one.

I really like the Ivory Host color scheme (I think I got the subfaction right - you know, the Tyranid Warrior with the amber swords) and I hope we'll see pictures of other troops in that color scheme. I've been on the fence before, but I'm starting to think the models' aesthetic is not for me and not easily adjusted to my taste either after seeing the models in different color schemes (that I like better than the original one they showed).

Guess I'm going to have to keep waiting for a Death release that's actually for me.

Gee.. they did not show an alt paint scheme for the bone guys with chrome bones and glowy green weaponry and magic items.. I am sure SOMEONE will paint up one or 2 as a Cryp... hero, I mean..

The release is EARLY
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-NZ/New-Exclusive?N=2030501316+3206404541&Nr=AND%28sku.siteId%3ANZ_gw%2Cproduct.locale%3Aen_NZ_gw%29&Nrs=collection%28%29%2Frecord%5Bproduct.startDate+<%3D+1572085740000+and+product.endDate+>%3D+1572085740000%5D


At least on GW New Zealand! There you go all the warscrolls for the models up and visible. Though only 1 version of the duel kits is on show for the feast of bones box and the terrain for Ossiarchs hasn't yet been uploaded.

The soul bird looks way more interesting now with not just a line of sight bonus but it also rolls a dice if there are any order, destruction or chaos units killed within 6 inches of it. It can heal, deal mortal wounds or both based on the dice roll.

Whilst its situational 3 out of 4 grand alliances isn't bad and it makes it a really nasty spell to keep close to the front lines, esp with soul-link so your opponent can't get it out of the way.

Table of contents for the Ossiarch Bonereapers (if you can squint enough to read it ).

Going through the starter set warscrolls. I like the bonereaper ones (especially that Volkmortian's lesser hand of dust can't have its range modified), bar the issue with stalker stances that I mentioned when they were previewed earlier. I was concerned they might go overboard on the complexity but they did not, so pretty happy with that. I wish they took the opportunity to make the double-blade option on morghasts 6 attacks to bring it on par with the glaive, since as it stands the blades only deal more damage against enemies with a 6+ save (not even accounting for weapon range).

Ogor warscrolls look to be updated & modernized well. The ironblaster has two shooting options and they are both useful, which I definitely like. And the extra nomnom attack has a profile good enough that it will be relevant. Basic ogors got streamlined quite well with both their equipment options being worthwhile and notable but not annoying-to-keep-track-of bonuses from their command group.

Displeased with the Tyrant. The glaive has an ability where it does extra damage on a hit roll of 6, meaning those must be rolled to wound separately. This creates an extra step in the process that is statistically irrelevant; busy work for no reward. The big name can be chosen now, but the bonuses were not re-evaluated so that entire ability amounts to "a Tyrant has a 3+ save" since that is the best choice.

Wow. AUD$320.

Go home GW. You're drunk.

And yet somehow sold out in 20 minutes.

Guess some people really want that Tyrant, eh?

I'm convinced that they only allocate a tiny amount of boxes there because the number of direct-order players is very small and very consistent.

the only change to Morghasts is the Hekatos and bonereapers keyword which means they can be healed by the bonshaper, give nearby units the 6+ deathless minions save and get you more command points.

The Ossiarch looks really flavourful reading these Scrolls. The Tesla-lite on Mortek was unforeseen. Vokmortian looks like a risky character to play, I like it. He wants to get close but has a 5+ and 6 Wounds, but he shines within 3" of ennemies.

I hope their endless spells are appropriately costed though, their effects are easily worth a Hero and can't be used by the opponent because reasons.

At the same time with slower moving wizards and warriors (barring expensive morghasts which might come into their own with the army as a fast attacking option); those Endless Spells might be very helpful in establishing wounds and board control before the army actually gets there .

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
I'm convinced that they only allocate a tiny amount of boxes there because the number of direct-order players is very small and very consistent.

According to someone on reddit, their FLGS owner told the GW rep informed him there will not be enough boxes allocated to satisfy the demand. Take it with a pinch of salt, but it's consistent with recent battlebox releases for AoS

Element Games have just removed the box from sale on the website and updated to only available directly from GW which is concerning as they removed it whilst I was checking out but my order still went through so not clear if II actually will get my copy or not. They did have 55 in stock a few seconds before they removed it.


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Edit: it’s back up again now with 47 copies left.

Aeneades wrote:
Element Games have just removed the box from sale on the website and updated to only available directly from GW which is concerning as they removed it whilst I was checking out but my order still went through so not clear if II actually will get my copy or not. They did have 55 in stock a few seconds before they removed it.


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Edit: it’s back up again now with 47 copies left.

Did you get an order confirmation? I didn't, but money still went out...

UltraPrime wrote:

Aeneades wrote:
Element Games have just removed the box from sale on the website and updated to only available directly from GW which is concerning as they removed it whilst I was checking out but my order still went through so not clear if II actually will get my copy or not. They did have 55 in stock a few seconds before they removed it.


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Edit: it’s back up again now with 47 copies left.

Did you get an order confirmation? I didn't, but money still went out...

My order confirmation came through straight away, have you check to see if it’s in your order history? As long as it’s there you should be fine.

Aeneades wrote:

UltraPrime wrote:

Aeneades wrote:
Element Games have just removed the box from sale on the website and updated to only available directly from GW which is concerning as they removed it whilst I was checking out but my order still went through so not clear if II actually will get my copy or not. They did have 55 in stock a few seconds before they removed it.


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Edit: it’s back up again now with 47 copies left.

Did you get an order confirmation? I didn't, but money still went out...

My order confirmation came through straight away, have you check to see if it’s in your order history? As long as it’s there you should be fine.

It's not. And no contact available on a saturday. Bit miffed now.

It seems like the box sold out in UK and Europe atleast. On a side note I read an amusing comment how someone was pleasantly surprised that the box wasn't 140, but only 115 quid. I guess sales can now safely bump the prices of these double boxes up by another 25 euro in march .

Well now I've got a painful week waiting to see if I get a copy! Travelled out and ordered at my local GW store first thing this morning (well they open at 10 so around 10ish).

The only thing I'm surprised at is that GW has not only undersold but put another hero in a limited box which is a shame, at least mortek guard adn stalkers will be on preorder next week though it means an extra weeks wait if the box order fails.



Box - spells - tome all coming next week I hope.
I'm still hunting for an Ogor player to swap the reapers with.

The nice part is that Ossiarch hero is actually a named one--so missing out on him isn't going to hurt too much, since he'll be a unique option.

I've generally been quite meh on a lot of the spells, but these ones all look good..

 Tim the Biovore wrote:
And yet somehow sold out in 20 minutes.

Guess some people really want that Tyrant, eh?

I'm convinced that GW is artificially constraining the production of these releases in order to trigger a FOMO reaction in people, causing them to accept the moronic high prices that GW is setting for their products. Like I said in another thread, if these boxes ever had enough stock to last just two weeks, they'd sit on the shelves for months unsold. GW ensures that there is never enough stock to make sure this doesn't happen. I think they might also be afraid that offering these bundles may devalue the individual unit boxes, so they probably don't want them sticking around so that their entire audience just splits boxes on eBay.

It also seems particularly worse with AoS, as their 40k two army boxes do generally have enough stock to last a few months while AoS boxes sell out during the preorder period - every time. It isn't because AoS is more popular, but because they make far fewer copies of these boxes. A shrewd company would see that the demand is there and make more copies - why leave potential sales on the table and risk the anger of customers who couldn't get one? Even at a lower price, GW must be making like 70% profit off each box - but for some reason, GW doesn't make more. Why? My guess is that they think the 40k boxes will eventually sell, while the AoS ones will hit a saturation point and not sell.

GW is using loot box psychology to trick its customers into paying more than they want or should feel comfortable with. Their entire business plan is built on FOMO, hype, and limited releases to obfuscate the true value of their product. If they ever stopped pumping out new crap for a second, people would look at their pile of boxes of unbuilt models and realize that they are literally spending money on something which has zero real world value to them.

Well, I had it pre-ordered a week ago but as the GW distributor of our zone is some stupid italian that can't even speak spanish properly I won't get mine. And I can't even buy it online in any retailer that I have found because in 2 hours everyone was out of stock.


Great move GW. I assume selling your production run of a box set in 20 seconds is something to brag in front of your investors A shame those production runs are 7 boxes or something like that.