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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/02/22 20:09:43
Subject: The 2018 Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : page 29 : From out of the blackness...
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
Home Base: Prosper, TX (Dallas)
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CthuluIsSpy wrote:How many do you need though? If you only need 5-10 then it's not that bad. If its like WHFB 8th ed where they are only effective if you have 20 per block, then yeah, that's a problem.
Considering these are likely to be elites I wouldn't expect more than 10 per unit to be something you'd want to do. That said if they don't use this chance to rebox the Witchs/ SoS to 20 mans to get a "hidden" cost cut in there I'm going to be sad. Because those you do need 30 of per unit and $150 per unit of 270pts is a bit crazy. These were models that suffered some of the worst of the Goldswords syndrome.
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They Shall Know Fear - Adepticon 40k TT Champion (2012 & 2013) & 40k TT Best Sport (2014), 40k TT Best Tactician (2015 & 2016) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/02/22 20:20:06
Subject: The 2018 Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : page 29 : From out of the blackness...
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Auspicious Aspiring Champion of Chaos
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CthuluIsSpy wrote:How many do you need though? If you only need 5-10 then it's not that bad. If its like WHFB 8th ed where they are only effective if you have 20 per block, then yeah, that's a problem.
From the way other elites work in AoS, 10 would probably be the most you'd want in a group. We won't really know until we see the full warscrolls and Match Play profile, though. There may be a bonus for having 8+ models or something like that.
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2000 Khorne Bloodbound (Skullfiend Tribe- Aqshy)
1000 Tzeentch Arcanites (Pyrofane Cult - Hysh) in progress
2000 Slaves to Darkness (Ravagers)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/02/22 20:26:57
Subject: The 2018 Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : page 29 : From out of the blackness...
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Charging Dragon Prince
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Khinerai will probably want to be in 10 + models, my guess.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/02/22 21:27:08
Subject: Re:The 2018 Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : page 29 : From out of the blackness...
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Battle Tested Karist Trooper
Central Coast, California
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Now they have some great models to use as harpies and gorgons in Warhammer Quest! Just wish the snake ladies kit had a snake hair option!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/02/23 14:53:06
Subject: The 2018 Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : page 29 : From out of the blackness...
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Look like there won't be any new generic hero for DoK
This is quite a small release, hopefully the next rumour Elf faction have a big release like Kharadron Overlord.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/02/23 15:11:15
Subject: The 2018 Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : page 29 : From out of the blackness...
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Regular Dakkanaut
The Garden Of Nurgle
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Chopstick wrote:Look like there won't be any new generic hero for DoK
This is quite a small release, hopefully the next rumour Elf faction have a big release like Kharadron Overlord.
Well ;
three Heroes (the 2 blood priestesses, inc. Helbron repurposed I guess, + the Medusa), maybe the Tenebrael Shard,
Morathi in her two forms, inc. one big centerpiece,
2 elite types (snake and wings),
1 cavalry unit
2 infantry types (witch and sister)
2 big centerpiece (maybe more ?)
1 Avatar of Khaine on foot, elite / monster unit ?
It's pretty okay IMO. Bigger than KO (then KO didn't have a WFB End Time release to build upon ; remember that the Witch aelves releases were originally destined to come out not with the Dark Elves army book but with End Times : Khaine).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/02/23 15:17:19
Subject: The 2018 Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : page 29 : From out of the blackness...
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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4 Elite types, as the medusas and flyers will have both ranged and close combat units. So you can add another two too that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/02/23 15:30:05
Subject: The 2018 Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : page 29 : From out of the blackness...
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Ambitious Acothyst With Agonizer
Boston, MA
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HorticulusDK wrote:
It's pretty okay IMO. Bigger than KO (then KO didn't have a WFB End Time release to build upon ; remember that the Witch aelves releases were originally destined to come out not with the Dark Elves army book but with End Times : Khaine).
I think they mean it is a small release in terms of NEW kits being released, not the number of total units in the battletome.
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Kabal of the Slit Throat ~2000pts
Elect of the Plaguefather 4500pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/02/23 15:38:45
Subject: The 2018 Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : page 29 : From out of the blackness...
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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HorticulusDK wrote: It's pretty okay IMO. Bigger than KO (then KO didn't have a WFB End Time release to build upon ; remember that the Witch aelves releases were originally destined to come out not with the Dark Elves army book but with End Times : Khaine). Even with the old 3 kit combined they still have less release than KO. which have a whooping 4 generic heroes, DoK could use 2 separated relese generic hero. If GW release Sylvaneth nowaday they probably make each Kurnoth Hunter with each weapon a separated unit, so the release would look big to easy impressionable customer.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/02/23 15:40:34
Subject: The 2018 Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : page 29 : From out of the blackness...
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Regular Dakkanaut
The Garden Of Nurgle
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eohall wrote: HorticulusDK wrote:
It's pretty okay IMO. Bigger than KO (then KO didn't have a WFB End Time release to build upon ; remember that the Witch aelves releases were originally destined to come out not with the Dark Elves army book but with End Times : Khaine).
I think they mean it is a small release in terms of NEW kits being released, not the number of total units in the battletome.
Yeah your are probably right, but what I tried to say is that KO is a "one shot" release, when Daughter Of Khaine was probably long in the making / End times related.
I.e, even if the release now is quite small (2 new kits, 1 monster Character, 1 Battletome & dice ?), it's because the DoK faction already have AOS-designed models.
I really like KO and DoK sized factions (as a whole)... When you have giant faction like The Empire in WFB, or maybe Blades Of Khorne you start to have (rule wise) quite redundant choices (but it still totally makes sense to have big fat mono-God Chaos books, at least for the background).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/02/23 16:19:56
Subject: Re:The 2018 Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : page 29 : From out of the blackness...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/02/23 16:20:57
Subject: Re:The 2018 Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : page 29 : From out of the blackness...
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Of course, you may be wondering just who will be casting these spells – after all, Hag Queens are talented, but lack magical aptitude, and while Morathi’s mastery of shadow magic is certain, what if you want to put more casters in your army?
The Bloodwrack Medusa is the answer. Previously, these creatures were thought to be mere monsters – the truth is far more complex. Bloodwrack Medusae are high-ranking members of the Daughters of Khaine who once doubted the will of Morathi – to secure their loyalty, Morathi has infected them with her own vital essence, causing them to assume a similar form to her and granting them mastery of shadow magic – as well as binding them to the Shadow Queen’s will utterly. You’ll find they make for a useful alternative command option for your army.
Sooooo, the HQ option that will allow medusas to be Battleline?
Gods, a walking statue of Khaine and now the old Medusas are HQ. I'm LOVING this "recycling"!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/02/23 16:49:44
Subject: The 2018 Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : page 29 : From out of the blackness...
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
Vigo. Spain.
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I'm really liking the art style in this Battletome. Is all so... difuse and dark. So fitting with the faction.
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Crimson Devil wrote:
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote:Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/02/23 17:48:39
Subject: Re:The 2018 Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : page 29 : From out of the blackness...
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/02/23 18:00:28
Subject: The 2018 Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : page 29 : From out of the blackness...
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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And this 'un!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/02/23 18:27:56
Subject: The 2018 Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : page 29 : From out of the blackness...
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Lead-Footed Trukkboy Driver
Olympia, WA
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Wow, that new terrain is remarkably restrained for GW. I like it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/02/23 18:34:26
Subject: The 2018 Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : page 29 : From out of the blackness...
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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Cool, I always thought AoS needed some generic ruin terrain. Good to see such low-key/normal stuff isn't forgotten. Without that then stuff like the gnarlmaw seems less notable and more par-for-the-course.
I also like how they've been 'recycling' old kits to create new options, it's a great move to give us more warscrolls without needing to add new kits. Hopefully this will lead into warscrolls for units that need a bit of converting. Which will hopefully lead to the HoN on plague drone that I've wanted for so long!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/02/23 18:44:48
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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I love those ruins!
Definitely going to pick a kit up. Would work great in both AoS and 40k.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/02/23 18:57:38
Subject: Re:The 2018 Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : page 29 : From out of the blackness...
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Lieutenant General
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When I look at those terrain kits, I can definitely see what kit they're based on...
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/02/23 19:04:50
Subject: Re:The 2018 Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : page 29 : From out of the blackness...
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Haughty Harad Serpent Rider
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Ghaz wrote:When I look at those terrain kits, I can definitely see what kit they're based on...

Which is still available at an alarmingly good price- USD $65 for three. They're frakin' huge too
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/02/23 19:12:58
Subject: The 2018 Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : page 29 : From out of the blackness...
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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Actual line of sight blocking terrain for AoS that isn't a massive building? Very nice.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/02/23 19:14:48
Subject: The 2018 Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : page 29 : From out of the blackness...
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Haughty Harad Serpent Rider
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The Blasted Hallowheart is an oddly sized 3' 7" by 5' 5" it seems!
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"...and special thanks to Judgedoug!" - Alessio Cavatore "Now you've gone too far Doug! ... Too far... " - Rick Priestley "I've decided that I'd rather not have you as a member of TMP." - Editor, The Miniatures Page "I'd rather put my testicles through a mangle than spend any time gaming with you." - Richard, TooFatLardies "We need a Doug Craig in every store." - Warlord Games "Thank you for being here, Judge Doug!" - Adam Troke |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/02/23 19:25:10
Subject: The 2018 Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : page 29 : From out of the blackness...
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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judgedoug wrote:The Blasted Hallowheart is an oddly sized 3' 7" by 5' 5" it seems!
Same as the 40k equivalent was.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/02/23 19:41:46
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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judgedoug wrote:
Which is still available at an alarmingly good price- USD $65 for three. They're frakin' huge too
+20% because Webstore Exclusive
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/02/23 19:49:16
Subject: Re:The 2018 Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : page 29 : From out of the blackness...
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Haughty Harad Serpent Rider
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Chopstick wrote: judgedoug wrote:
Which is still available at an alarmingly good price- USD $65 for three. They're frakin' huge too
+20% because Webstore Exclusive
What do you mean +20%?
I usually order from discounters. I can get the three-pack of Ruins of Osgiliath for only USD$55.25
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/02/23 19:58:41
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The styling of the ruins kit looks like it could work as a fantasy version of the 40k urban terrain sets with there individual wall sections. There was some blurry terrain in the background of one of the Daughters of Khain promo vids that looked like the archways from this new set. But it was taller with the appearance of multiple floors. Could more kits of the same style be on the horizon? Or could it just have been these ruins stacked on top of each other?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/02/23 20:03:18
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Battle Tested Karist Trooper
Central Coast, California
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What I think this kit is missing is any indication of a second story, or wnat the floors look like...other than that, I'm really happy to see some more peeks into what ancient (age of Myth?) architecture in the Realms looks like.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/02/23 20:04:58
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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judgedoug wrote:
What do you mean +20%?
I usually order from discounters. I can get the three-pack of Ruins of Osgiliath for only USD$55.25
WE stuff cost about 20% more for me here.
Iirc the change apply last year when GW made some change to their site. Used to cost the same.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/02/23 20:12:23
Subject: Re:The 2018 Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : page 29 : From out of the blackness...
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Fango wrote:
What I think this kit is missing is any indication of a second story, or wnat the floors look like...other than that, I'm really happy to see some more peeks into what ancient (age of Myth?) architecture in the Realms looks like.
I think the curved arch sections may have inserts to make full walls. Some of the ruins on the cover of the Blasted hallowheart box look like they are missing the bricked up center's.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/02/23 20:14:32
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Haughty Harad Serpent Rider
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GoatboyBeta wrote: Fango wrote:
What I think this kit is missing is any indication of a second story, or wnat the floors look like...other than that, I'm really happy to see some more peeks into what ancient (age of Myth?) architecture in the Realms looks like.
I think the curved arch sections may have inserts to make full walls. Some of the ruins on the cover of the Blasted hallowheart box look like they are missing the bricked up center's.
I agree, to make them like a blind arcade. Decorative archways but really walls.
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"...and special thanks to Judgedoug!" - Alessio Cavatore "Now you've gone too far Doug! ... Too far... " - Rick Priestley "I've decided that I'd rather not have you as a member of TMP." - Editor, The Miniatures Page "I'd rather put my testicles through a mangle than spend any time gaming with you." - Richard, TooFatLardies "We need a Doug Craig in every store." - Warlord Games "Thank you for being here, Judge Doug!" - Adam Troke |
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