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Idoneth also have a webway connecting their cities.
   
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Gathering the Informations.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Monsters and War Beasts of the Idoneth Deepkin


LEVIADON PROFILE! Wooo!

The Idoneth Deepkin make greater use of monsters and beasts than nearly any other army of Order, making up for their limited numbers and resources with magically enslaved bond-beasts. At their smallest, these may be the bioluminescent creatures that light the undersea enclaves or the familiars that fight alongside the Isharann. At their mightiest, these could be the savage Akhelian Allopexes or even the Akhelian Leviadon.


The bonds that the Idoneth Deepkin share with their beasts is a difficult one. While the Stormcast Eternals and Fyreslayers may possess a deep connection with their draconic allies, the Idoneth Deepkin must magically enslave their bond-beasts using the Embailors, a specialised sect of the Isharann. In order for these magics to take hold, the creatures must be blinded, for without this measure they risk slipping their bonds and escaping in a murderous rampage. There are groups and even whole enclaves of Idoneth Deepkin who trawl the oceans for beasts to hunt and capture, with the Ghurish forces of Dhom-hain training particularly vicious specimens.


There are some exceptions – a few Ochtar, such as the familiar that fights alongside Lotann, Warden of the Soul Ledgers, have proven loyal, as have the rare Deepmares ridden by Akhelian Kings.

The Idoneth Deepkin present all sorts of opportunities for hobbyists and gamers alike, boasting a rich stable of monstrous creatures to build your army on – take an Akhelian King as your general, and you could even field an entire mounted phalanx with Fangmora Eel cavalry as Battleline units! If you love using monsters, you’ll find the Idoneth Deepkin a very rewarding force – whether you’re looking to field an army of them or just want to add an allied detachment to your Order army.

The greatest of the Idoneth Deepkin’s monsters is the Akhelian Leviadon – something between an armoured battleship and a dragon. Just check out its stats:



The Akhelian Leviadon plays perfectly to the strengths of the Idoneth Deepkin, shrugging off enemy fire in the earlier turns of the game before making a crushing charge. There are few things that can stand up to an Akhelian Leviadon on the offensive – particularly when you factor in its Jaws of Death:


With only one attack, you’ve just got the one chance each turn to unleash Jaws of Death – but should it go off, you’ll take a considerable chunk out of any unfortunate model’s Wounds in an instant.


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 Albino Squirrel wrote:
Idoneth also have a webway connecting their cities.

Okay, and?

It's Elves. Who cares if they have similar stuff to Eldar.
I mean, I didn't hear anyone complaining about Athel Loren having something similar to that for ages--something that even linked Ulthuan to Athel Loren.

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 Albino Squirrel wrote:
Idoneth also have a webway connecting their cities.


Wood elves had the world roots.
   
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xking wrote:
 Albino Squirrel wrote:
Idoneth also have a webway connecting their cities.


Wood elves had the world roots.


And Dark Elves the Underway (though that’s a tad more traditional method of travel)

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Gathering the Informations.

 Nostromodamus wrote:
xking wrote:
 Albino Squirrel wrote:
Idoneth also have a webway connecting their cities.


Wood elves had the world roots.


And Dark Elves the Underway (though that’s a tad more traditional method of travel)

I don't know if I would call a system of caves so massive that they could sail ships through them "a tad more traditional".
   
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 Albino Squirrel wrote:
Idoneth also have a webway connecting their cities.


Just like everyone else in this setting? The whirlway portals are just the name that underwater realmgates receive.
   
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Realmgates are not the webway either.

How do whirlways interact with realmgates? Wouldn't the water flood out...

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pm713 wrote:
Realmgates are not the webway either.

How do whirlways interact with realmgates? Wouldn't the water flood out...


I like to think so. I had an idea a while back for a terrain project to have a real gate half-submerged in a swamp and its opposite number spewing out a torrent of water.

   
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Gathering the Informations.

The "whirlways" are, from what's been said, different from the actual Realmgates.


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 Captain Joystick wrote:
pm713 wrote:
Realmgates are not the webway either.

How do whirlways interact with realmgates? Wouldn't the water flood out...


I like to think so. I had an idea a while back for a terrain project to have a real gate half-submerged in a swamp and its opposite number spewing out a torrent of water.

I love the idea.

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Something I'm unclear about is if the archers are dual kit with the sword infantry. Does anyone know?

   
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Carlovonsexron wrote:
Something I'm unclear about is if the archers are dual kit with the sword infantry. Does anyone know?


I would imagine, since they're very close in model, but there's been no word from GW. Then again, Liberators and Judicators are basically just head and weapon swaps and those are different kits too...
   
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Carlovonsexron wrote:
Something I'm unclear about is if the archers are dual kit with the sword infantry. Does anyone know?

Not the same kit. The Namarti update on Warhammer-Community said there will be a second Namarti kit. The legs are also completely different between the two units.

   
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Could someone clarify if an idoneth force with a leviadon could give it mystic shield and give it negative hit modifiers to such a point that it has a 2+ sv and -2 to hit?

From what we have seen/heard that doesn't seem far fetched. If so, if you are forced to fire at it, that shuts down shooting hard.
   
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Gathering the Informations.

Carlovonsexron wrote:
Something I'm unclear about is if the archers are dual kit with the sword infantry. Does anyone know?

The Namarti Reavers/Raiders(the bowmen) are their own kit. We'll get them "in the coming weeks" and apparently one of the Hero options can make them Battleline if it is your General.
   
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Aren73 wrote:
Could someone clarify if an idoneth force with a leviadon could give it mystic shield and give it negative hit modifiers to such a point that it has a 2+ sv and -2 to hit?

From what we have seen/heard that doesn't seem far fetched. If so, if you are forced to fire at it, that shuts down shooting hard.
Sure, but then your opponent deserves to lose for not shooting at literally anything else. Movement is still a thing, and if it's really that far ahead of the rest of the army then just swamp it in melee.

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 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Aren73 wrote:
Could someone clarify if an idoneth force with a leviadon could give it mystic shield and give it negative hit modifiers to such a point that it has a 2+ sv and -2 to hit?

From what we have seen/heard that doesn't seem far fetched. If so, if you are forced to fire at it, that shuts down shooting hard.
Sure, but then your opponent deserves to lose for not shooting at literally anything else. Movement is still a thing, and if it's really that far ahead of the rest of the army then just swamp it in melee.

Yeah...and it won't do a whole lot if your opponent isn't running shooting attacks.
   
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Aren73 wrote:Could someone clarify if an idoneth force with a leviadon could give it mystic shield and give it negative hit modifiers to such a point that it has a 2+ sv and -2 to hit?

From what we have seen/heard that doesn't seem far fetched. If so, if you are forced to fire at it, that shuts down shooting hard.


I mean, it's possible to give a Fatemaster a 0+ save, -1+ with Mystic Shield, so I don't see why not.

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 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Aren73 wrote:
Could someone clarify if an idoneth force with a leviadon could give it mystic shield and give it negative hit modifiers to such a point that it has a 2+ sv and -2 to hit?

From what we have seen/heard that doesn't seem far fetched. If so, if you are forced to fire at it, that shuts down shooting hard.
Sure, but then your opponent deserves to lose for not shooting at literally anything else. Movement is still a thing, and if it's really that far ahead of the rest of the army then just swamp it in melee.


Yeah but the other rule that forces them to shoot the closest means you can buff it and just throw it in front of their shooty units
   
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Gathering the Informations.

Requizen wrote:
 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Aren73 wrote:
Could someone clarify if an idoneth force with a leviadon could give it mystic shield and give it negative hit modifiers to such a point that it has a 2+ sv and -2 to hit?

From what we have seen/heard that doesn't seem far fetched. If so, if you are forced to fire at it, that shuts down shooting hard.
Sure, but then your opponent deserves to lose for not shooting at literally anything else. Movement is still a thing, and if it's really that far ahead of the rest of the army then just swamp it in melee.


Yeah but the other rule that forces them to shoot the closest means you can buff it and just throw it in front of their shooty units

Supposedly the Soulrender(the guy with the hook and angler fish hat) can return lost Wounds to the Namarti, so you can use them for that too.
   
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Requizen wrote:
 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Aren73 wrote:
Could someone clarify if an idoneth force with a leviadon could give it mystic shield and give it negative hit modifiers to such a point that it has a 2+ sv and -2 to hit?

From what we have seen/heard that doesn't seem far fetched. If so, if you are forced to fire at it, that shuts down shooting hard.
Sure, but then your opponent deserves to lose for not shooting at literally anything else. Movement is still a thing, and if it's really that far ahead of the rest of the army then just swamp it in melee.


Yeah but the other rule that forces them to shoot the closest means you can buff it and just throw it in front of their shooty units
Something to remember is that the only army actually running all-shooting is Kharadron. And they have extremely high mobility. The old whfb style gun lines don't really show up anymore.

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 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Requizen wrote:
 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Aren73 wrote:
Could someone clarify if an idoneth force with a leviadon could give it mystic shield and give it negative hit modifiers to such a point that it has a 2+ sv and -2 to hit?

From what we have seen/heard that doesn't seem far fetched. If so, if you are forced to fire at it, that shuts down shooting hard.
Sure, but then your opponent deserves to lose for not shooting at literally anything else. Movement is still a thing, and if it's really that far ahead of the rest of the army then just swamp it in melee.


Yeah but the other rule that forces them to shoot the closest means you can buff it and just throw it in front of their shooty units
Something to remember is that the only army actually running all-shooting is Kharadron. And they have extremely high mobility. The old whfb style gun lines don't really show up anymore.


Maybe they have high mobility but I bet you I could place a leviadon in such a way that it screws them over royally. For kharadrons that rule is brutal, no two ways about it, it will be a huge pain in the ass to get through, especially with a leviadon or two on the board.
   
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Sneaky peek at the Allopex!




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Oh I get it, they put scythes on the fins. I just now noticed that. I was wondering how their fins could deal damage.
I like the models, but the names are pretty terrible.

How are you supposed to connect that allopex = shark?
The closest thing I could find is alopex, which refers to artic foxes.

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 Kanluwen wrote:
The "whirlways" are, from what's been said, different from the actual Realmgates.


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 Captain Joystick wrote:
pm713 wrote:
Realmgates are not the webway either.

How do whirlways interact with realmgates? Wouldn't the water flood out...


I like to think so. I had an idea a while back for a terrain project to have a real gate half-submerged in a swamp and its opposite number spewing out a torrent of water.

I love the idea.


There are now quite a few ways to travel between realms - Whirlways, Gnawholes, Realmgates

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 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Oh I get it, they put scythes on the fins. I just now noticed that. I was wondering how their fins could deal damage.
I like the models, but the names are pretty terrible.

How are you supposed to connect that allopex = shark?
The closest thing I could find is alopex, which refers to artic foxes.

Sharks are "apex" predators.

Sheeeeeesh.
   
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 Kanluwen wrote:
 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Oh I get it, they put scythes on the fins. I just now noticed that. I was wondering how their fins could deal damage.
I like the models, but the names are pretty terrible.

How are you supposed to connect that allopex = shark?
The closest thing I could find is alopex, which refers to artic foxes.

Sharks are "apex" predators.

Sheeeeeesh.


Huh, a bit of a stretch as puns go, but I can see it.

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Gathering the Informations.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Oh I get it, they put scythes on the fins. I just now noticed that. I was wondering how their fins could deal damage.
I like the models, but the names are pretty terrible.

How are you supposed to connect that allopex = shark?
The closest thing I could find is alopex, which refers to artic foxes.

Sharks are "apex" predators.

Sheeeeeesh.


Huh, a bit of a stretch as puns go, but I can see it.

I don't think everything needs to be or is a pun really.


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Also, this is week 1 of 5 for preorders.

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 Kanluwen wrote:
 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Oh I get it, they put scythes on the fins. I just now noticed that. I was wondering how their fins could deal damage.
I like the models, but the names are pretty terrible.

How are you supposed to connect that allopex = shark?
The closest thing I could find is alopex, which refers to artic foxes.

Sharks are "apex" predators.

Sheeeeeesh.


Huh, a bit of a stretch as puns go, but I can see it.

I don't think everything needs to be or is a pun really.
Thresher Sharks of the genus Alopias.

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Well there you go then. There's a connection.

Still not sure how to feel about week 1 out of frigging 5.

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