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 Kanluwen wrote:
 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Oh I get it, they put scythes on the fins. I just now noticed that. I was wondering how their fins could deal damage.
I like the models, but the names are pretty terrible.

How are you supposed to connect that allopex = shark?
The closest thing I could find is alopex, which refers to artic foxes.

Sharks are "apex" predators.

Sheeeeeesh.


Huh, a bit of a stretch as puns go, but I can see it.

I don't think everything needs to be or is a pun really.


.


Its GW. They already have a unit called a leviadon, and you just have to look at the Lizardmen and Necron armies for a long, long list of puns and related word play.


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 NinthMusketeer wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Oh I get it, they put scythes on the fins. I just now noticed that. I was wondering how their fins could deal damage.
I like the models, but the names are pretty terrible.

How are you supposed to connect that allopex = shark?
The closest thing I could find is alopex, which refers to artic foxes.

Sharks are "apex" predators.

Sheeeeeesh.


Huh, a bit of a stretch as puns go, but I can see it.

I don't think everything needs to be or is a pun really.
Thresher Sharks of the genus Alopias.


Oh neat, I didn't know that. So that's where they got the name.

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Aren73 wrote:
 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Requizen wrote:
 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Aren73 wrote:
Could someone clarify if an idoneth force with a leviadon could give it mystic shield and give it negative hit modifiers to such a point that it has a 2+ sv and -2 to hit?

From what we have seen/heard that doesn't seem far fetched. If so, if you are forced to fire at it, that shuts down shooting hard.
Sure, but then your opponent deserves to lose for not shooting at literally anything else. Movement is still a thing, and if it's really that far ahead of the rest of the army then just swamp it in melee.


Yeah but the other rule that forces them to shoot the closest means you can buff it and just throw it in front of their shooty units
Something to remember is that the only army actually running all-shooting is Kharadron. And they have extremely high mobility. The old whfb style gun lines don't really show up anymore.


Maybe they have high mobility but I bet you I could place a leviadon in such a way that it screws them over royally. For kharadrons that rule is brutal, no two ways about it, it will be a huge pain in the ass to get through, especially with a leviadon or two on the board.
As a Kharadron player I'm not concerned that it will be that bad. An uphill battle sure, but there's a lot of shooting that gets +1 to hit or re-rolls against heroes/monsters. There's also several things that grant bonuses against stuff that flies, further the -1 to hit is only in round 1 and the other needs a spell. So the circumstance where all/most of the army has to shoot at the above-buffed Leviadon is pretty much never going to happen because we need:
-Round 1
-Hit penalty spell was successfully cast
-Leviadon is also much closer than any other model
-Mystic shield was successfully cast
-The Kharadron player wasn't outside the 12-18" range needed to bring their firepower to bear anyway
-The Kharadron player isn't and is unable to have a meaningful amount of models being transported (which would allow them to simply run away as a stall tactic until round 2).

Again, this doesn't mean Deepkin aren't a touch matchup but it isn't that bad.

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 NinthMusketeer wrote:
As a Kharadron player I'm not concerned that it will be that bad. An uphill battle sure, but there's a lot of shooting that gets +1 to hit or re-rolls against heroes/monsters. There's also several things that grant bonuses against stuff that flies, further the -1 to hit is only in round 1 and the other needs a spell. So the circumstance where all/most of the army has to shoot at the above-buffed Leviadon is pretty much never going to happen because we need

You're kind of confusing things a bit.

Round 1, for the Tides of Death, means that all Idoneth units have cover. The -1 to Hit is something native to the Leviadon itself from what's been said.

Leviadons also grant cover to Idoneth units fully within 12 inches of them from what was said.
   
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 Kanluwen wrote:
 NinthMusketeer wrote:
As a Kharadron player I'm not concerned that it will be that bad. An uphill battle sure, but there's a lot of shooting that gets +1 to hit or re-rolls against heroes/monsters. There's also several things that grant bonuses against stuff that flies, further the -1 to hit is only in round 1 and the other needs a spell. So the circumstance where all/most of the army has to shoot at the above-buffed Leviadon is pretty much never going to happen because we need

You're kind of confusing things a bit.

Round 1, for the Tides of Death, means that all Idoneth units have cover. The -1 to Hit is something native to the Leviadon itself from what's been said.

Leviadons also grant cover to Idoneth units fully within 12 inches of them from what was said.
Apologies, obviously I don't have the battletome yet

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Imagine three people with the same set of values but radically different emotional states, each of them believes their position is more valid than the other two, they all post using the same account, and your job is to make it coherent. 
   
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 NinthMusketeer wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
 NinthMusketeer wrote:
As a Kharadron player I'm not concerned that it will be that bad. An uphill battle sure, but there's a lot of shooting that gets +1 to hit or re-rolls against heroes/monsters. There's also several things that grant bonuses against stuff that flies, further the -1 to hit is only in round 1 and the other needs a spell. So the circumstance where all/most of the army has to shoot at the above-buffed Leviadon is pretty much never going to happen because we need

You're kind of confusing things a bit.

Round 1, for the Tides of Death, means that all Idoneth units have cover. The -1 to Hit is something native to the Leviadon itself from what's been said.

Leviadons also grant cover to Idoneth units fully within 12 inches of them from what was said.
Apologies, obviously I don't have the battletome yet

Not trying to jump down your throat or anything! Just trying to make sure we keep things as relatively accurate as we can from a Twitchstreamed game and the Community articles(which did have the Tides of Death table in case you're interested).

PS--in case you can't tell, I'm excited for the Idoneth.

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I don't mean to give the wrong impression--I'm glad you corrected me.


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In other news, a Skaven leader's (Thanquol?) scheme goes exactly according to plan: https://malignportents.com/story/the-great-gnaw/

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Imagine three people with the same set of values but radically different emotional states, each of them believes their position is more valid than the other two, they all post using the same account, and your job is to make it coherent. 
   
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 unmercifulconker wrote:
Yaaaarrrrrrsssss the Octopus is mostly seperate.

You better not be joshing me

CaptainStabby wrote:
If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.

 jy2 wrote:
BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.

 vipoid wrote:
Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?

 MarsNZ wrote:
ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever.
 
   
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Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
 unmercifulconker wrote:
Yaaaarrrrrrsssss the Octopus is mostly seperate.

You better not be joshing me

   
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Unfortunately, it looks like they posted a sprue pic twice on the Eidolons, but I really think I should be able to trim off the more nautical bits for my Deceiver conversion (with a cloak of liquid metal!)

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3000 Slaves to Darkness of the Legion of Rusted Chains (Allpoints/Azyr)
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 EnTyme wrote:
Unfortunately, it looks like they posted a sprue pic twice on the Eidolons, but I really think I should be able to trim off the more nautical bits for my Deceiver conversion (with a cloak of liquid metal!)




Here's the sprues.

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 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
 NinthMusketeer wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Oh I get it, they put scythes on the fins. I just now noticed that. I was wondering how their fins could deal damage.
I like the models, but the names are pretty terrible.

How are you supposed to connect that allopex = shark?
The closest thing I could find is alopex, which refers to artic foxes.

Sharks are "apex" predators.

Sheeeeeesh.


Huh, a bit of a stretch as puns go, but I can see it.

I don't think everything needs to be or is a pun really.
Thresher Sharks of the genus Alopias.


Oh neat, I didn't know that. So that's where they got the name.

A.K.A. the Fox Shark according to the linked Wikipedia page.

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cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

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 Kanluwen wrote:
 EnTyme wrote:
Unfortunately, it looks like they posted a sprue pic twice on the Eidolons, but I really think I should be able to trim off the more nautical bits for my Deceiver conversion (with a cloak of liquid metal!)

Spoiler:

Here's the missing sprue.


Thanks! Good to see the head I want to use is separate from the crest.

edit* added spoiler tag to the large image.

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2000 Tzeentch Arcanites of the Cult of Searing Light (Hysh)
3000 Slaves to Darkness of the Legion of Rusted Chains (Allpoints/Azyr)
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 Kanluwen wrote:
Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
 unmercifulconker wrote:
Yaaaarrrrrrsssss the Octopus is mostly seperate.

You better not be joshing me


Wow.

I just gotta carefully cut off the tentacle off the cape and cut the hand off the scroll. This is wonderful.

CaptainStabby wrote:
If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.

 jy2 wrote:
BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.

 vipoid wrote:
Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?

 MarsNZ wrote:
ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever.
 
   
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 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Aren73 wrote:
 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Requizen wrote:
 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Aren73 wrote:
Could someone clarify if an idoneth force with a leviadon could give it mystic shield and give it negative hit modifiers to such a point that it has a 2+ sv and -2 to hit?

From what we have seen/heard that doesn't seem far fetched. If so, if you are forced to fire at it, that shuts down shooting hard.
Sure, but then your opponent deserves to lose for not shooting at literally anything else. Movement is still a thing, and if it's really that far ahead of the rest of the army then just swamp it in melee.


Yeah but the other rule that forces them to shoot the closest means you can buff it and just throw it in front of their shooty units
Something to remember is that the only army actually running all-shooting is Kharadron. And they have extremely high mobility. The old whfb style gun lines don't really show up anymore.


Maybe they have high mobility but I bet you I could place a leviadon in such a way that it screws them over royally. For kharadrons that rule is brutal, no two ways about it, it will be a huge pain in the ass to get through, especially with a leviadon or two on the board.
As a Kharadron player I'm not concerned that it will be that bad. An uphill battle sure, but there's a lot of shooting that gets +1 to hit or re-rolls against heroes/monsters. There's also several things that grant bonuses against stuff that flies, further the -1 to hit is only in round 1 and the other needs a spell. So the circumstance where all/most of the army has to shoot at the above-buffed Leviadon is pretty much never going to happen because we need:
-Round 1
-Hit penalty spell was successfully cast
-Leviadon is also much closer than any other model
-Mystic shield was successfully cast
-The Kharadron player wasn't outside the 12-18" range needed to bring their firepower to bear anyway
-The Kharadron player isn't and is unable to have a meaningful amount of models being transported (which would allow them to simply run away as a stall tactic until round 2).

Again, this doesn't mean Deepkin aren't a touch matchup but it isn't that bad.


Round 1 all the Idoneth would have to do is stick their leviadon out and everything else kept back a bit (especially that it seems some of it can deep strike). Because of turn 1 cover and the native -1 to hit, the leviadon is on a 2+sv and -1 to hit anyway which is brutal in and of itself. That's assuming the idoneth don't get first turn.

Tbh, round 2 wouldn't be much different. So we move up 12/18 inches, even then the leviadon could be positioned in such a way that it still is the closest model. Essentially, we're counting on the deepkin player playing badly for us to be able to hit anything else.

I don't think it's unwinnable, but it's very tough.

Also, because Kharadrons only get one buff which is reroll 1s to hit/wound. Getting +1 to hit is actually quite difficult and mostly requires allies from other order factions.
   
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If someone is interested in the review.
   
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Leviadon rules from the box
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Soo...looks like it doesn't actually have a negative hit modifier? That changes things a bit, but it's still a good beastie.
   
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Aren73 wrote:
When you don't realise you've been ninja'd ....

I'm well aware that you "posted it first".

However your post was also tiny and basically unreadable, since you posted it as an attachment rather than doing an Image Link.
   
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Haha no hard feelings I don't really care who posts it - don't know how to make it an image link. I just thought you didn't see the post.

Anyway yeah, it doesn't seem to have the negative to hit...that's interesting, doesn't seem quite as brutal although it does have a 2+ save all the time basically
   
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140 points for Namarti swordsmen is amazing. Hoping Swordmasters get some point corrections in the next GHB.
   
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 Kanluwen wrote:
Also, this is week 1 of 5 for preorders.


For real? Oh boy, that's going to be dull.

Nehekhara lives! Sort of! 
   
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 Geifer wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
Also, this is week 1 of 5 for preorders.


For real? Oh boy, that's going to be dull.

Yep! They're going to be doing an art card for every week of preorders and this one was labeled as 1 out of 5.

I'm leaning towards them being 'themed' around the Warscroll Battalions.
Guessing that week 2 is going to be the Soulrender(hook guy) and the Namarti Reavers(archers) since that would actually finish out that Warscroll Battalion(2-4 units of Raiders 2-6 of Thralls 1 Soulrender).
Week 3 is probably going to be the Ishorann Tidecaster and Soulscryer.
Week 4 will probably be the Akkhelian King and the Eels.
Week 5 will probably end with the Allopex and Leviadon.

Week 4 would see the ability for you to take the "Noble's Court" or whatever, it's a King(including the named guy!), Tidecaster, and Soulscryer.
Week 5 would see the ability to field the Akkhelian bit, which requires 2-4 units of Eels(any type), 1 of Allopex, and a Leviadon.
   
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Book only 40k releases will possibly be mixed in.

 Crimson Devil wrote:
That's what 7th edition is about. Yelling "Forge the Narrative Pussy!" while kicking your opponent in the dick.
 BlaxicanX wrote:
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 Eldarain wrote:
Book only 40k releases will possibly be mixed in.

Well, book and non-model heavy releases.

Deathwatch is basically guaranteed to get some Primaris boxes and an upgrade kit.
Harlequin will be model-less likely.
Knights we know are getting stuff.
   
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The Eidolon has a looot of sprue space "wasted" on sea critters and base stuff. Not really happy about that with their (IMO) extreme "big centre piece" pricing. I love his tiny seahorses, though.

The wrack pieces being stuck to its base is a bit of a bummer, I want to turn it into a flying Nurgle gunship and all that will have to be dremeled away :(

At 40€ for the Thralls I'll wait for the SC and maybe buy a shark box to use as skysharks with KO and maybe the seshorse rider to use with my flying fishes Pusgoyles.

PS: Who will be the first to run the squid as a Khorne Herald or something equally silly/fun?!
   
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 Kanluwen wrote:
 Eldarain wrote:
Book only 40k releases will possibly be mixed in.

Well, book and non-model heavy releases.

Deathwatch is basically guaranteed to get some Primaris boxes and an upgrade kit.
Harlequin will be model-less likely.
Knights we know are getting stuff.


One can only hope. Five weeks leaves one week of May for something that's not sea elves, hopefully Van Saar. A little codex or two to mix things up wouldn't go amiss.

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 Geifer wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
 Eldarain wrote:
Book only 40k releases will possibly be mixed in.

Well, book and non-model heavy releases.

Deathwatch is basically guaranteed to get some Primaris boxes and an upgrade kit.
Harlequin will be model-less likely.
Knights we know are getting stuff.


One can only hope. Five weeks leaves one week of May for something that's not sea elves, hopefully Van Saar. A little codex or two to mix things up wouldn't go amiss.


My notes have Harlequins before the end of April with both Knights & Deathwatch in May.
All compiled from multiple sources so I may have mixed in some wishful thinking but we'll see I guess.
   
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Maybe blood bowl/necromunda mixed in some of that weeks??
   
 
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