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Wasn't the next boxset rumored to be Stormcast vs Nightguants?

Correct, the rumor is a new Chamber of Stormcast(which got previewed a bit in a Malign Portents story a few weeks ago I think? It's supposed to be Wizardy bits) versus Nighthaunt Spirit-y stuff.

We got a preview of what looked to be a new Black Coach at Adepticon so it likely will be part of a bigger release.

Thanks for reminding me.

 Nova_Impero wrote:
It is kinda of crazy that some of the criticism against Age of Sigmar is that there are no "regular" people. It's astounding and sad at the same time.

Why? I really like the fish elves, the sky dwarfs and all the weird and surreal AOS stuff, but I really wish there would be a proper free peoples release. The weirdness kinda loses some of it's impact if there is no regular people to contrast it against. And sure, the grandfathered Empire line exists, but I want to know what way it will be aosified before committing to it.

 Nova_Impero wrote:
It is kinda of crazy that some of the criticism against Age of Sigmar is that there are no "regular" people. It's astounding and sad at the same time.

But back on the topic of news and rumors. When are we supposed to hear the next thing about Age of Sigmar? Is it next week at Warhammer Fest?

Yes. It's also blatantly false, as the Empire range was rightly IMO adapted to the new fluff for Freeguild and Ironweld arsenals with City of Secrets, Spear of Shadow, etc.
Also here (normal humans on steeds) https://malignportents.com/story/the-offer/ And since the first book, the Devoted of Sigmar were featured alongside e.g. Sylvaneth and SCE, then in artworks, and even got a new AOS model, as said above.

Anyway. On the news front :

Arkiham said on TGA we'll get the Nighthaunt release around the magic supplement mid June. On the French Warfo the dates 16th and 23rd June were uttered.

We'll have a studio preview at Warhammer Fest probably next Saturday, according to : https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/04/23/7-reasons-were-excited-about-warhammer-fest/

Normal humans do exist in the setting











Also stormcast vs nighthaunt

xking wrote:

Normal humans do exist in the setting

Sure. Now can we get some new models for them?

 Crimson wrote:

xking wrote:

Normal humans do exist in the setting

Sure. Now can we get some new models for them?

We've had models for them.

Neronoxx wrote:

We've had models for them.

So what Free People models have been made specifically for AOS rather than being leftovers from FB (or that one guy from Silver Tower)?

Why? Humans are the most boring part of any fantasy setting. You get humans every single day, let the fantastical be the focal point for a change.

 Crimson wrote:

Neronoxx wrote:

We've had models for them.

So what Free People models have been made specifically for AOS rather than being leftovers from FB (or that one guy from Silver Tower)?

Yeah. The Devoted of Sigmar (including Witch Hunters of the Order of Azyr) and the Collegiate Arcanes really fits AOS.

Lots and lots of Chaos models have been humans (mortals).

And the two Darkoaths models, Chieftain and Warqueen, where (according to an old rumor from Lady Atia and some artworks in Mighty battles) meant to be Order (the normal humans living in the Realms, and the survivors of the Age Of Chaos Conan-style).

And yeah, the Order human have the Excelsior Warpriest, a boat and a peasant

(SORRY, PLEASE BACK TO RUMORS)

 Crimson wrote:

Neronoxx wrote:

We've had models for them.

So what Free People models have been made specifically for AOS rather than being leftovers from FB (or that one guy from Silver Tower)?

"Hah! I bet you can't name one example other than the six you've already provided!" It must be a lot easier to win an argument if you keep adding qualifiers. I should try this technique.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Why? Humans are the most boring part of any fantasy setting. You get humans every single day, let the fantastical be the focal point for a change.

Why does fantastical have to be over the top though? Dwarves existing as a separate, more advanced race is fantastical by definition. Why do they need to be steampunk sky pirate astronauts?

Ratmen are fantastical. They've gotten gak for support in Age of Sigmar and the faction was needlessly split into like 6 different factions.

Egyptian mummies coming to life and marching to war is fantastical. They don't exist at all any more.

Hordes of beastmen are fantastical. They've gotten no support and were split into two separate factions for no reason.

Etc

Etc

They had plenty of fantastical elements to focus on, and they threw it all away for the sake of money. It's all about profitability and copyright enforceability now. The setting is an afterthought.

 EnTyme wrote:

"Hah! I bet you can't name one example other than the six you've already provided!" It must be a lot easier to win an argument if you keep adding qualifiers. I should try this technique.

The point was lack of new things for Free People. There are no new models for Free People, apart that one guy from Silver Tower nor do they have a battletome of their own. I want a proper Free People release.

Yawn. They're a business, they'll stop things that aren't profitable.

Fantasy is by definition, surprisingly enough, fantastical. If you want the trope fantasy, Nordic Dwarves, haughty Elves etc there are a 1001 cloned Tolkien universes out there. As for support? Give it time, WFB had 30+ years to get it's races going, AoS has barely had 3. But anyway, yet again this is news and rumours, take it down to the sub-forum.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Why? Humans are the most boring part of any fantasy setting. You get humans every single day, let the fantastical be the focal point for a change.

Because some people like their stories to have dramatic impact, and a story about a weak creature fighting to survive against a much stronger enemy is a lot more impactful than big muscle monster vs bigger, uglier, muscle monster.

Not to mention having baseline humans of some description in your setting and actually visible instead of just alluded to makes it much easier to relate to. How many REALLY successful fantasy series can you think of that don't feature humans prominently

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Why? Humans are the most boring part of any fantasy setting. You get humans every single day, let the fantastical be the focal point for a change.

Because some people like their stories to have dramatic impact, and a story about a weak creature fighting to survive against a much stronger enemy is a lot more impactful than big muscle monster vs bigger, uglier, muscle monster.

So focus on those stories. Like i said, there's a 1001 Tolkien clones out there to pick from.

 ElvisJuice wrote:
Not to mention having baseline humans of some description in your setting and actually visible instead of just alluded to makes it much easier to relate to. How many REALLY successful fantasy series can you think of that don't feature humans prominently

Do vampires and elves count? Both do fine in Warhammer and beyond.

Plenty of humans in the fluff and I think they figure (rightly) they can sell more "unique" models than quasi medeival / renessaince humans.

Now personally I would love to see more of the humans that have been created as models like http://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Nyoka_Su%27al%27gohl

but hopefully that will come.

Asking for normal humans in AoS is like asking for sensible sized shoulderpads in warcraft.
You are in the wrong universe.

Eventually they will return, I have hope, at lot of my attachment to the WHFB and 40k Universe was my sympathy for the guys down in the trenches, the IG, Empire, and Brett. Now I play Kharadron in AOS, which, are fun! Don't get me wrong, but doesn't stop the grumbling that I want new human models.

I mean AOS has been throwing us curveballs with the factions that have come out so far, steampunk dwarves, sea elves, a new human faction could be something far greater than old Renaissance tropes.

Yeah, I want to see baseline humans in a fantastical style. Not 16th c. European mercenaries that somehow exist on a world that is literally made of a barbarian god’s imaginary concept of his dead home planet.

Seriously, start with something like the Birdmen of Catrazza and that mechanical horse and come up with a group of mad inventors that live on the plane of metal and have a longstanding argument with the local Dispossessed Dwarfs over who really invented the helicopter.

So, uh, any news and rumors in this news and rumors thread?

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Yeah, I want to see baseline humans in a fantastical style. Not 16th c. European mercenaries that somehow exist on a world that is literally made of a barbarian god’s imaginary concept of his dead home planet.

E-what now?

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Yeah, I want to see baseline humans in a fantastical style. Not 16th c. European mercenaries that somehow exist on a world that is literally made of a barbarian god’s imaginary concept of his dead home planet.

Seriously, start with something like the Birdmen of Catrazza and that mechanical horse and come up with a group of mad inventors that live on the plane of metal and have a longstanding argument with the local Dispossessed Dwarfs over who really invented the helicopter.

I agree- I want to see a human faction that mixes well (in visual style) with Kairic acolytes and Idoneth deepkin.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
So, uh, any news and rumors in this news and rumors thread?

I guess we might hear something next week from Warhammer Fest.

 Nova_Impero wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
So, uh, any news and rumors in this news and rumors thread?

I guess we might hear something next week from Warhammer Fest.

Gonna be looooooong week.

Indeed @unmercifulconker ...

Who here goes to WF ?

Do you already have the planning of the week end ?

(We're not even sure the preview seminar is on Saturday and not Sunday, but usually those seminars are sooner than later)

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Yeah, I want to see baseline humans in a fantastical style. Not 16th c. European mercenaries that somehow exist on a world that is literally made of a barbarian god’s imaginary concept of his dead home planet.

Seriously, start with something like the Birdmen of Catrazza and that mechanical horse and come up with a group of mad inventors that live on the plane of metal and have a longstanding argument with the local Dispossessed Dwarfs over who really invented the helicopter.

All of those are in the fiction already - just needs to be translated to the tabletop.

 Mr Morden wrote:

All of those are in the fiction already - just needs to be translated to the tabletop.

… this entire line of discussion has always been about what’s “on the tabletop” rather than mentioned in the fiction. Thus far, other than the grandfathered-in Empire units which don’t really fit, we’ve had exactly one regular order-aligned mortal human show up. In a completely separate game.
That said, maybe Shadespire II or whatever they’re calling the next W:U game will have a Free Peoples warband in it? That would be a good way to test the waters with a new aesthetic.