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 flamingkillamajig wrote:
I'm rather curious about the obi wan story though. From what i saw it looked like they're going with 'the trials of jesus in the desert' sorta path which is actually kinda cool for what it is. I honestly wouldn't have thought you can make a story about a space wizard in the middle of nowhere interesting but maybe you can.

It would actually be easy if the story was about Obi-wan doing small "side missions" while keeping an eye on Luke from a distance. I mean, he has to go into town occasionally for food and supplies? Maybe there is some local trouble that Obi-wan doesn't initially want to get involves with, but being the good person he is, he cannot turn a blind eye for long.
You can do this as a old western style adventure flick.

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Saw the movie at a preview.

Not going to spoil any details but I am glad I did not pay to see it. Nothing horrible, just... this is not Han Solo.

Still not sure what to say about it except that the story hinted at in the commercials was far better. The franchise would do well to make a sequel that picks up on that.

when people review the solo movie can you guys say if you liked or didn't, rouge 1 and TLJ, that way I can see who had similar tastes to me and help me decide if I should go see it.

 Manchu wrote:

 flamingkillamajig wrote:
one of the people willing to give the Star Wars stories a chance

One of a many millions, surely?

It's been getting some bad fan reviews apparently. Looks like this is gonna be like TLJ all over again. How very disappointing. I wonder if i should even see this right away. My birthday is also in 4 days so i dunno if i should still see it for my birthday.

sirlynchmob wrote:
when people review the solo movie can you guys say if you liked or didn't, rouge 1 and TLJ, that way I can see who had similar tastes to me and help me decide if I should go see it.

That's actually not a bad idea

Torn up by fans, and sounding like TLJ? Then...pass. Han Solo can stay awesome for me, thanks. If I get another SW film as bad as TLJ right away...*shudder*!

 timetowaste85 wrote:
Torn up by fans, and sounding like TLJ? Then...pass. Han Solo can stay awesome for me, thanks. If I get another SW film as bad as TLJ right away...*shudder*!

I say give more time to let more reviews come out (fan reviews obviously) but i'm not keeping my hopes up.

sirlynchmob wrote:
when people review the solo movie can you guys say if you liked or didn't, rouge 1 and TLJ, that way I can see who had similar tastes to me and help me decide if I should go see it.

Well I liked Solo, thought Rogue one was great and while TLJ has grown on me after multiple viewings its still IMO the weakest of the Disney films.

Solo wasn't the worst thing I've ever seen but it's not amazing. Lots of nice nods to the OT era and lots of EU names, places etc are mentioned (Imperial Academy on Carida anyone?).

 flamingkillamajig wrote:

 timetowaste85 wrote:
Torn up by fans, and sounding like TLJ? Then...pass. Han Solo can stay awesome for me, thanks. If I get another SW film as bad as TLJ right away...*shudder*!

I say give more time to let more reviews come out (fan reviews obviously) but i'm not keeping my hopes up.

My wife already requested if we can skip this. She enjoyed everything up until TLJ (including the prequels!). TLJ was so bad, she doesn’t even want to waste time on further SW material. I started reading reviews today, saw enough “mehs” that I have no problem honoring her wishes and waiting til Redbox/Netflix. This is shaping up to sound like Failt4stic. Three directors, choppy characters (like PB’s villainous role) and more? No. I won’t cause irreparable damage to my marriage by dragging her to that!

And to give an idea of her movie tastes...she’s looking forward to DP2 (has seen the first more times than I have), The Meg, Aquaman, Ant-Man 2 and Jurassic World. So she’s into the nerdy stuff with me. TLJ just left such a gakstain for us both that it’s off the radar for her. We had a movie board of what we wanted to see this year and when it came out...Solo was on it and got scratched off.

 timetowaste85 wrote:

 flamingkillamajig wrote:

 timetowaste85 wrote:
Torn up by fans, and sounding like TLJ? Then...pass. Han Solo can stay awesome for me, thanks. If I get another SW film as bad as TLJ right away...*shudder*!

I say give more time to let more reviews come out (fan reviews obviously) but i'm not keeping my hopes up.

My wife already requested if we can skip this. She enjoyed everything up until TLJ (including the prequels!). TLJ was so bad, she doesn’t even want to waste time on further SW material. I started reading reviews today, saw enough “mehs” that I have no problem honoring her wishes and waiting til Redbox/Netflix. This is shaping up to sound like Failt4stic. Three directors, choppy characters (like PB’s villainous role) and more? No. I won’t cause irreparable damage to my marriage by dragging her to that!

And to give an idea of her movie tastes...she’s looking forward to DP2 (has seen the first more times than I have), The Meg, Aquaman, Ant-Man 2 and Jurassic World. So she’s into the nerdy stuff with me. TLJ just left such a gakstain for us both that it’s off the radar for her. We had a movie board of what we wanted to see this year and when it came out...Solo was on it and got scratched off.

3 directors for one movie?! Holy crap disney wtf?!

What's 'The Meg'? Don't know enough about aquaman to care. Heard ant-man was decent. Jurassic World omg that's awful stuff. The next Jurassic park movie looks so bad i refuse to see it.

I hated TLJ though. I remember when i first asked at my local GW and 2 people thought it was ok. I watched and was like 'wtf....' and then came back to talk about it to a different crowd in the same GW and probably every person hated it.

sirlynchmob wrote:
when people review the solo movie can you guys say if you liked or didn't, rouge 1 and TLJ, that way I can see who had similar tastes to me and help me decide if I should go see it.

I feel like i'm gonna have to be the one to bite the bullet for people with a similar taste to me and just watch it. Since it's near my birthday i'll probably get tickets to go from someone anyway.

For what it's worth i actually enjoyed rogue one but TLJ was so terribly done.

I will most likely have to see it in a week or two. We're getting a group of kids together, so hopefully they will be entertained.

 flamingkillamajig wrote:

 timetowaste85 wrote:
Torn up by fans, and sounding like TLJ? Then...pass. Han Solo can stay awesome for me, thanks. If I get another SW film as bad as TLJ right away...*shudder*!

I say give more time to let more reviews come out (fan reviews obviously) but i'm not keeping my hopes up.

One thing to bear in mind with fan reviews for Solo, as opposed to TLJ, is there's a much stronger contingent of "#NotMyHan" types, people who insist there is no Solo but Ford and the basic existence of the film is a travesty, but will still go and see it just to grumble over exactly how much of a travesty.

Everything I've seen so far indicates that its not blow-you-away spectacular, just a cool Star Wars space-western and the new guy has a wobbly start but begins doing a solid Han(not Ford, Han) quickly enough that it doesn't diminish the movie. Most of the folk who liked Rogue One I've spoken to seem to appreciate it, and the few folk I know who raved about TLJ are either aforementioned "#NotMyHan" types, or insisted it was boring and dumb and didn't do enough to shake things up, so my feelings as of now are pretty positive, looking forward to going to see it as soon as I can figure out where and when next week a local cinema is likely to be as empty as possible.

Saw it tonight. Give it a B+ or even A-. More my fatigue with SW than anything. The lead actor that I've been reading people bag on did a pretty decent job.

TLJ was the first SW movie that I've skipped seeing in theaters. Saw it later on rental at home and thought it was better in some ways than Force Awakened. Both were mediocre IMO.

Rogue One did not do anything for me, at all. It was a serviceable movie and that was about it. Tudyk was the only bright point for me watching that one.

I purposely only watched a single trailer for Solo and that was the first one released months back. I went in with average expectations and came out thinking I'd gotten my money's worth plus. Something I haven't done since ROTJ.

I liked The Last Jedi and Rogue 1 (I've never seen Rouge 1 ). I saw Solo last night, and I really enjoyed it. Not really "Ocean's 11 in SPAAACE!" - it's more action than that, without quite such a convoluted scheme. It started off with a car chase, and didn't really let up. I thought Han was portrayed well as someone who had no idea what he was getting in to - after all, he was a street urchin who's trying to mingle with the big guns - but brazened his way through. A few nods to the "legends" stories and to the Clone Wars series, but nothing that you couldn't just let wash over you if you weren't familiar. The Empire - and the rest of the wider mythology - is basically a cameo; I think this is probably easily understandable as a sci-fi heist movie on its own, even if you've never seen any other Star Wars films.

Alden Ehrenreich was no worse at being Han than Ewan MacGregor was at being Obi-Wan Kenobi.

Just seen it.

It doesn’t add to the method as Rogue One did, but enjoyable enough.

And some cool callbacks to other characters.


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If I had to sum up?

As a sci-fi action flick, it’s great. But it’s a pretty disposable Star Wars film.

Was planning to go see it but then got my email reminder for the Labyrinth showing at my local and maniac goblin king Bowie trumps all (although those trousers might be a lot to cope with) so Solo can wait wuuzza wuzz

 AndrewGPaul wrote:
Alden Ehrenreich was no worse at being Han than Ewan MacGregor was at being Obi-Wan Kenobi.

Considering Ewan McGregor as Obi-wan is by far one of the best parts of the prequels, that is high praise indeed. Although Ewan had 3 movies to get from Padawan to a recognizable Obi-wan, and still had an 18 year gap between him and Alec. All those factors allowed Ewan to make the character his own, which is why we NEED an Obi-wan movie.

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Not quite my point, I'm afraid. I don't think Alden Ehrenreich is as good an actor as Ewan McGregor, but for all the people saying "he's no Harrison Ford", well, Ewan's no Alec Guinness - despite that odd accent he tries on. Still, you can see the things that made Han Han in episodes 4-7; he's a scoundrel and a criminal, but he's not a villain.

Sometimes you've got to remember this is all made up, after all.

Grotsnik, that's what I liked about it. It doesn't really bring much to the Skywalker saga (it does fill in Han's prior life, but there wasn't anything about Han I really wanted to know), but it just expands the setting.

Also, I want to see 2001 on the big screen. Now, please.

It’s certainlg not a negative criticism.

Neither Han nor Lando quote land properly. But, this does threaten to have at least one sequel.

You’ll need to see it to understand why I feel that to be the case. And whilst I’m ambivalent to it as a Star Wars film, I’m very much up for seeing any potential sequel.

Seriously. Not a great Star Wars film - but still worth the time and cost of watching it.

That's the fun of seeing characters in a younger state. We know them from their current growth as a character, but when they are younger, it makes sense for this growth and any characteristics associated with this growth to not be there.
I think a lot of people will dislike this Han because he isn't the Han of the OT. Of course he isn't. That Han had grown before our eyes. We never got to know Han before the events of ANH changed his life.
I am going into the movie expecting a totally different and potentially unlikable Han. Same for Lando

What I am also interested to see is the comparison of young Han with Kylo. It's fun to see parent/child characters at the same ages on screen to see how much of the parent is in the child.

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Interesting ...

They're both fairly impetuous, and ambitious, although Kylo seems to be more prone to outbursts of rage.

 Galef wrote:
That's the fun of seeing characters in a younger state. We know them from their current growth as a character, but when they are younger, it makes sense for this growth and any characteristics associated with this growth to not be there.
I think a lot of people will dislike this Han because he isn't the Han of the OT. Of course he isn't. That Han had grown before our eyes. We never got to know Han before the events of ANH changed his life.
I am going into the movie expecting a totally different and potentially unlikable Han. Same for Lando

What I am also interested to see is the comparison of young Han with Kylo. It's fun to see parent/child characters at the same ages on screen to see how much of the parent is in the child.

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A fair point.

A younger me was still me, in that the elements of who I am now were all there. But since then, it’d all been refined and purified and improved.

What Qi’Ra says toward the end of the film? And what Han said immediately before? That hits the nail on the head. You can be a bit of butthole, or indeed be a massive butthole, but still be a fundamentally good person.

Seriously folks. The film is worth the entry price. It’s far from perfect, but it is fun? As I said earlier, as a Star Wars film I’m ambivalent (barring some interesting points) - but it doesn’t suck. It’s a good film. It’s up and beyond the league of D.C. and Univeral’s Mummy reboot. You may not love it, but I feel you’ll enjoy it.

That may be faint praise,and perhaps it is. But it is what it is.

 AndrewGPaul wrote:
Interesting ...

They're both fairly impetuous, and ambitious, although Kylo seems to be more prone to outbursts of rage.

That could be darkside influence.

The darkside is a slipery slope with a feed back looop. You get angry and gain power and get angier until you loose your gak at the drop of a hat.

I saw it this afternoon with my wife and daughter -- it was their birthday treat for me.

Really good fun. A fast action/heist pic set in the gritty SW universe. Some great performances. The first 1/3rd is pretty grim and violent.

For a film that didn't really need to be made it's decent enough but nothing special. It's just too "safe" unfortunately I don't see Disney taking any real risks with Star Wars.

There's some good set pieces it's part heist movie, part western.

There's a few snippets of ideas I'd like to have seen explored more like the soldiers that aren't Storm Troopers fighting the Empire's wars.

Some of the stuff felt like a box ticking exercise because they have been mentioned before in other films. There's also some stuff that's done as nods to the other films but that's starting to wear thin now.

It's very much set up to be part of a greater narrative whether that's more Solo stories or interwoven with other characters stories.

There's a part that's going to confuse the hell out of people that haven't seen the Clone Wars or Rebels.

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Enjoyable enough is a pretty good description for the film. It's okay. Fun. At least it's not littered with glaring holes and characters who don't make sense.

I think the only guy who really stands out though is Lando. I'd totally watch a movie with that actor in the lead. He needs to work on the more dramatic bits, but he has the debonair con-artist thing down!

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One other smol thing....

I'd also like to point out;

GaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!