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**Manchu**

I would bet you will be able to build traditional eviscerator-wielding girls out of the kit and then some new kind of unit as well.

**Mr Morden**

Manchu wrote:
Yeah it seems very unlikely.

More likely is, there will be two different kinds of Repentia that can be built out of the same kit.

Why not a triple kit:

Repentia
Militia / Remdemptionists
Chao Cultists with h-t-h weapons

Just have some pistols and blades on the sprue as well as Eviscerators

**Talizvar**

I think that would be a legitimate fear: Sisters being this partial force like Adeptus Mechanicus was, Deathwatch, Grey Knights or Harlequins.
It may start out that way (Small force, a "vs" box like Forgebane) and build up later.

My main thought is what would an SOB aircraft / drop-craft look like?
See quite a few Dark Talon or Avenger conversions out there.
Funny thing is the Sisters seem to have the same aerodynamic aesthetic of their brother marines: like a brick.
Something like the offspring of a brick and an old church.
I think something like the Repressor and StormRaven.

**Kawauso**

Talizvar wrote:
I think that would be a legitimate fear: Sisters being this partial force like Adeptus Mechanicus was, Deathwatch, Grey Knights or Harlequins.
It may start out that way (Small force, a "vs" box like Forgebane) and build up later.

My main thought is what would an SOB aircraft / drop-craft look like?
See quite a few Dark Talon or Avenger conversions out there.
Funny thing is the Sisters seem to have the same aerodynamic aesthetic of their brother marines: like a brick.
Something like the offspring of a brick and an old church.
I think something like the Repressor and StormRaven.

Considering that the entire range is going to have to be rebooted except for Celestine, I don't know that we should expect them to get an aircraft right out of the gates.

Or that they'd need one.

The Valkyrie exists and would fit them just fine.

Heck, maybe shortly before/after their release they could just re-release the Valkyrie with an extra sprue to allow for a Vendetta and a new load-out or two to be built from it. Maybe put some iconography on there for the factions that can take it, too, like the Blood Angels/Grey Knights stuff on the Stormraven sprue. Sisters get an aircraft and Guard/Scions get an updated model, too.

**Ignispacium**

Ideally (and I'd prefer) they'd get separate boxes.

Just throwing out ideas about how GW might compact concept, design and production for an entire line in the span of less than two years. It might result in corners being cut or adaptations being made somewhere.

I don't think they'll be a single build kit regardless. Maybe it'll be a dual build with a Reiver or scout equivalent?

**Manchu**

Mr Morden wrote:
Why not a triple kit:

Repentia
Militia / Remdemptionists
Chao Cultists with h-t-h weapons

Or what about a triple kit to make

Primaris Marine
Tau Ethereal
Tyranid Lictor

Fratris Militia ought to feature male figs. There are already plastic cultists.

**SnotlingPimpWagon**

Mr Morden wrote:
Manchu wrote:
Yeah it seems very unlikely.

More likely is, there will be two different kinds of Repentia that can be built out of the same kit.

Why not a triple kit:

Repentia
Militia / Remdemptionists
Chao Cultists with h-t-h weapons

Just have some pistols and blades on the sprue as well as Eviscerators

Why not 5-kit?

Repentia
Militia / Remdemptionists
Chao Cultists with h-t-h weapons
Squats
Plastic Thunderhawk

EDIT: joke ninjad

**Manchu**

I bow to your version of the joke, since you managed to mention Squats and Plastic THawk.

**Mr Morden**

Talizvar wrote:
I think that would be a legitimate fear: Sisters being this partial force like Adeptus Mechanicus was, Deathwatch, Grey Knights or Harlequins.
It may start out that way (Small force, a "vs" box like Forgebane) and build up later.

My main thought is what would an SOB aircraft / drop-craft look like?
See quite a few Dark Talon or Avenger conversions out there.
Funny thing is the Sisters seem to have the same aerodynamic aesthetic of their brother marines: like a brick.
Something like the offspring of a brick and an old church.
I think something like the Repressor and StormRaven.

Sisters use theri own ThunderHawk in a recent BL short story.

**fox-light713**

CoteazRox wrote:
ncshooter426 wrote:
The SoB asthetic will be what Celestine/Gem are. They will carry their classic style, but with better face/hair sculpts, slight change to paldrons, and modern (relative) bolters. I would not expect a huge change to models they put out 6 months ago...even if they're a year out. Celestine's armor is perfect in proportions.

-Seraphim will get the new packs,
-Retributors will get an overhaul to make them a bit more "heavy weapons" look.
-Celestians will likely have different helm option than the std spru
-Old excorcist will be killed off. May retain some of the grimdark organ theme, but I suspect it will be streamlined to be more like the current tanks
-Immoloator will get some basic updates, but still a rhino
-Repentias will be redone completely. I'm guessing more akin to sisters of silence in terms of stance/look, but with AoS DoK clothing style
-There *will* be a flier. GW loves fliers..I love fliers. It's going to happen.
-New HQ options will be needed. We have only 1 real named character, Ver doesn't count since she's no different than a canonness and was technically limited

+1

Maybe adding:
- Plastic version of the Repressor
- Dito of the Penitent Engine (the only one AS model I did not get - as they keep falling apart)

I like the Exorcist / organ look and hope they keep it.

Just copying over what I put on B&C board regarding theories for plastic kits reguarding the units that are Adepta Sororitas keyword specific units.

It would be great if they could do it in a handful of kits and if they only focus on the Adepta Sororitas keyword units they may be able to do in in a handful of kits or so.

-Battle Sisters and Celestians could be one box because they have the same options similar to how the Space Wolves have their base tac marine box (covers 3 units Grey Hunters, Blood Claws and Wolf Guard) This is if Celestians stay as a "battle sister but better" as both squads have the same options for weapon upgrades and such and would be great if Celestians got a separate Sternguard/Vanguard equivlent box and rule changes to have similar options to them
-Dominions and Retrubutors could be one box, however with the specification that one is special weapons and the other is heavy weapons I could see them as 2 seperate boxes with a weapons sprew swap
-Serephim, like the assault marines they should get their own specific box as they are jump troops for more dynamic poses like the assault marine box.
-Repentia, they would need their own separate box
-Exorcist, would be great to get this in all plastic like the Immolator (maybe even make it a dual kit with the Represor) Would be amazing if GW did this

So 6 kits to cover just the models in the current list that specifically have the Adepta Sororitas Keyword (would love if they did the Penitent Engine in plastic as well)

Though looking at that list I can see I compleatly spaced clam-pack characters but the above list would be specific for Boxed plastic sets. Though clampacks would be pretty obvious, Cannones, Imagifier, Hospitaller (the Hospitaller looks amazing as is and would love to see this one in plastic), Dialogus, Repentia Mistress. That is if GW only dose what we have in the Index for clampack characters.
Would love to see a Sisters specific flyer or a variant flyer that is a gunship with transport space

I put this in the plastic sisters thread in the general 40k section, though is relevant to this thread for a theory for possible content for a base BSS plastic set

For refrence here's pics of the BA sprew from GW webstore. In combination with the level of decoration if we can get similar if not the same content (with exceptions of weapon option limitations) on the sprews, enough bitz to build 10 SoB with options to have 1 superior with load-out options (chainsword, powersword, pistols and combi bolters), 2 specials or 1 special and 1 heavy.

Spoiler:

plenty of bitz for bolter sisters and full head options, enough for both with and without helmets
1 or 2 heavy weapons (heavy bolter, Multi Melta, Heavy Flamer)
Flamer, Melta and Storm Bolter

Combi-bolters ; Flamer, Plasma, Melta, Crossbow, (superior specific storm bolter?)
pistols; Bolt pistol, plasma pistol, melta pistol, hand flamer
Chain sword, power sword, (power maul?)

plenty of other bitz, incense burners, purity seals, scrolls, grenades, pistol and knives in hands and holstered and such. At least that is my hopes for the base SoB BSS kit.

**Tastyfish**

I think there's been enough of a song and dance made over sisters, and the fact they said they're going to do a behind the scenes development series with them, that it'll be a Dark Eldar 2.0 size release (a double sized one). New character and the new basic plastics of sisters and seraphim to show off over the course of the year, maybe penitent engines and arco-flagellants if they decide to play up the rest of the Ecclesiarchy - but then a bunch of new stuff in order to keep the hype going after the first week of pre-orders.

**Kanluwen**

Kawauso wrote:
Talizvar wrote:
I think that would be a legitimate fear: Sisters being this partial force like Adeptus Mechanicus was, Deathwatch, Grey Knights or Harlequins.
It may start out that way (Small force, a "vs" box like Forgebane) and build up later.

My main thought is what would an SOB aircraft / drop-craft look like?
See quite a few Dark Talon or Avenger conversions out there.
Funny thing is the Sisters seem to have the same aerodynamic aesthetic of their brother marines: like a brick.
Something like the offspring of a brick and an old church.
I think something like the Repressor and StormRaven.

Considering that the entire range is going to have to be rebooted except for Celestine, I don't know that we should expect them to get an aircraft right out of the gates.

I would.

Or that they'd need one.

The Valkyrie exists and would fit them just fine.

Heck, maybe shortly before/after their release they could just re-release the Valkyrie with an extra sprue to allow for a Vendetta and a new load-out or two to be built from it. Maybe put some iconography on there for the factions that can take it, too, like the Blood Angels/Grey Knights stuff on the Stormraven sprue. Sisters get an aircraft and Guard/Scions get an updated model, too.

Vendetta's not in the Codex anymore for Guard.

**Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl**

Galas wrote:
Actually theres a Sororitas monastery in most imperial planets so Jake is right, Sororitas (Sister of Battle, Hospitalier, Dialogous, etc...) are one of the biggest (In numbers) Imperial "military" organisations.

Ref?

Talizvar wrote:
My main thought is what would an SOB aircraft / drop-craft look like?

How about you sculpt a nice giant fleur-de-lys in stone, adorn it with lots of golden things and put EVEN MORE bones from various saints and gak all over it, and then pay a dozen bazillion credit to the Mechanicus to make them turn this into an actual flyer?
Seems like something a good Ministorum Priest would do, after all those scum hivers can always work harder and eat less so you can get the credits right

.

**Talizvar**

Mr Morden wrote:
Sisters use theri own ThunderHawk in a recent BL short story.

Ah! good to know.
I think I had about the right idea of using similar equipment since they already make extensive use of the Rhino chassis.
So, being absolutely insane hopeful, that would be excuse enough to get the mythical plastic Thunderhawk out with a few faction custom sprues?

**Kawauso**

Kanluwen wrote:

Vendetta's not in the Codex anymore for Guard.

That's kind of my point. They only have one flyer in their codex; a new kit allowing for a Vendetta and a new load-out or two to be built would be a good way to offer an update to multiple armies at once.

They've done this sort of thing before with the Stormtalon and Knight kits.

**Talizvar**

Kawauso wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
Vendetta's not in the Codex anymore for Guard.
That's kind of my point. They only have one flyer in their codex; a new kit allowing for a Vendetta and a new load-out or two to be built would be a good way to offer an update to multiple armies at once.
They've done this sort of thing before with the Stormtalon and Knight kits.

No arguments from me.
I spent a fair bit of time converting a reasonable Vendetta.
https://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/images-28305-7762_Valkyrie%20Conversion.html
So yeah, though with sisters it may need to be a bunch of melta weapons and heavy flamers out the side doors.

**Kanluwen**

Kawauso wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:

Vendetta's not in the Codex anymore for Guard.

That's kind of my point. They only have one flyer in their codex; a new kit allowing for a Vendetta and a new load-out or two to be built would be a good way to offer an update to multiple armies at once.

And you're missing mine:
They removed it rather than keep it in the codex. It was a kit that many people had converted or bought through Forge World. Instead, they removed it.
If we're going to see anything for Guard, I'd expect to see some kind of dedicated Flyer like a Thunderbolt, Lightning, or maybe even a Marauder.

They've done this sort of thing before with the Stormtalon and Knight kits.

The Stormtalon/Stormhawk was only available, initially, to a single army. The upgraded Knight stuff was to add more variants to an army list made up of a very small list of items.

Quite frankly, they're not really the same things at all.

**John Prins**

Could the SIsters get the Corvus Blackstar? It's an existing model, it belongs to the Inquisition, and the SoB work closely with the Ordo Hereticus.

**Manchu**

Keep that Inq stuff far away ...

**Dysartes**

Kanluwen wrote:
Kawauso wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:

Vendetta's not in the Codex anymore for Guard.

That's kind of my point. They only have one flyer in their codex; a new kit allowing for a Vendetta and a new load-out or two to be built would be a good way to offer an update to multiple armies at once.

And you're missing mine:
They removed it rather than keep it in the codex. It was a kit that many people had converted or bought through Forge World. Instead, they removed it.
If we're going to see anything for Guard, I'd expect to see some kind of dedicated Flyer like a Thunderbolt, Lightning, or maybe even a Marauder.

Given how GW are operating with Codex army lists at present, they removed it because core GW doesn't sell a Vendetta kit. The option is still in the GW Index (I think - can't find my copy of Index 2 at present), and is still in the FW Index Astra Militarum.

If Kawauso's idea were to come to pass - and I don't think it is likely, in all honesty - GW would just include the rules in the box, and away we go.

On an tangental note, what entries in the various Codex army lists released for 8th are only in there because of a FW entry, rather than core GW plastic/metal/Finecast? I honestly can't think of any, other than possibly some Dreadnought weapon options.

**Kanluwen**

Dysartes wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
Kawauso wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:

Vendetta's not in the Codex anymore for Guard.

That's kind of my point. They only have one flyer in their codex; a new kit allowing for a Vendetta and a new load-out or two to be built would be a good way to offer an update to multiple armies at once.

And you're missing mine:
They removed it rather than keep it in the codex. It was a kit that many people had converted or bought through Forge World. Instead, they removed it.
If we're going to see anything for Guard, I'd expect to see some kind of dedicated Flyer like a Thunderbolt, Lightning, or maybe even a Marauder.

Given how GW are operating with Codex army lists at present, they removed it because core GW doesn't sell a Vendetta kit. The option is still in the GW Index (I think - can't find my copy of Index 2 at present), and is still in the FW Index Astra Militarum.

It is not in Index Imperium 2 either. It was in the FW Index from the start.

If Kawauso's idea were to come to pass - and I don't think it is likely, in all honesty - GW would just include the rules in the box, and away we go.

On an tangental note, what entries in the various Codex army lists released for 8th are only in there because of a FW entry, rather than core GW plastic/metal/Finecast? I honestly can't think of any, other than possibly some Dreadnought weapon options.

Honestly, I think they cleaned out the Dreadnought weapon options. There's potentially some Razorback weapon options but that's a kinda/sorta argument.

**Captain Brown**

Talizvar wrote:
I think that would be a legitimate fear: Sisters being this partial force like Adeptus Mechanicus was, Deathwatch, Grey Knights or Harlequins.
It may start out that way (Small force, a "vs" box like Forgebane) and build up later.

In many ways that was how the original Sisters Army started with the equivalent of a Tactical Squad, then a Rhino with Flamers, etc.

Cheers,

CB

**drbored**

My big question is... when do people think we'll get the first snippet of information, and how often do you think they'll give us an update?

I'm thinking that we'll probably get the first snippet early next month when they'll post a video or article making a bit of fanfare that the project has started and showing us a few concept sketches of what they're working on.

Then, at the VERY LEAST we should get an update once every other month. Between now and their release, that'd be like 12 updates. It'd be kinda crappy to only get a little bit of something every two months, but I figure that's the minimum that they could give us. I'm hoping for an update either once every month or once every two weeks.

I think the number of updates we get will be proportional to the scale of the army update. In other words, fewer updates will mean fewer kits and things to show off. More updates means more kits.

**Yodhrin**

Talizvar wrote:
I think that would be a legitimate fear: Sisters being this partial force like Adeptus Mechanicus was, Deathwatch, Grey Knights or Harlequins.
It may start out that way (Small force, a "vs" box like Forgebane) and build up later.

My main thought is what would an SOB aircraft / drop-craft look like?
See quite a few Dark Talon or Avenger conversions out there.
Funny thing is the Sisters seem to have the same aerodynamic aesthetic of their brother marines: like a brick.
Something like the offspring of a brick and an old church.
I think something like the Repressor and StormRaven.

Valkyrie, Thunderhawk, and IN Avenger Strike Fighter(which is noted in the FW fluff as being a frequent attachment to Sisters forces since it complements their style of warfare).

But that's "old world" thinking, nowadays everyone has their own special-snowflake flyers and pilot corps to go with their complete disregard for the division of military power that's supposed to exist in the Imperium and their non-STC vehicles, so yeah, probably a flying fleur de lis or some nonsense.

**timd**

drbored wrote:
My big question is... when do people think we'll get the first snippet of information, and how often do you think they'll give us an update?

I'm thinking that we'll probably get the first snippet early next month when they'll post a video or article making a bit of fanfare that the project has started and showing us a few concept sketches of what they're working on.

Concept sketches seem unlikely given the possibility of 3rd parties making models based on the sketches and releasing the models before GW. Not ever going to happen again...

T

**ERJAK**

I want bikes. That's like my number one thing I want for plastic SoB. Very specifically I want bikes that look like this:

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Reds8n

**MonkeyBallistic**

timd wrote:
drbored wrote:
My big question is... when do people think we'll get the first snippet of information, and how often do you think they'll give us an update?

I'm thinking that we'll probably get the first snippet early next month when they'll post a video or article making a bit of fanfare that the project has started and showing us a few concept sketches of what they're working on.

Concept sketches seem unlikely given the possibility of 3rd parties making models based on the sketches and releasing the models before GW. Not ever going to happen again...

T

This is exactly the reason why I think the plastic Sisters will be exactly the same as the metal ones. They can show their development because everyone already knows what they’ll end up looking like.

**Jadenim**

Repent is could work as a dual kit with Death Cult Assassins, but that’s getting Inquisition in your ministorum again...

**Mothboi666**

[b]god I hope the repressor comes back was an awesome looking transport and I think really captured the sisters essence

**MattW**

I’d love them to use the depressor as the base for all their tanks rather than the rhino. Would make for a bit more distinction from their power-armoured brethren.