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Aye... the full necron codex was leaked weeks in advance but the ork codex hasn't even got a wiff of a fake screenshot. XD this makes me think we could be looking at a enf of Aug/early sept date for the dex.

Could be later. If Killteam is July, we might have SW in August and us in September since we havnt seen any SW leaks either

The way things are going I am sadly starting to wonder if they are going to make us wait for an Orktober release.

I think they still have some Nighaunt and Stormcast models that haven't gone up for pre-order. That , combined with Kill Team, makes me think it's pretty unlikely there will be any Ork or SW releases in July. They might start giving us some previews in July though.

GW often releases information at big events. We've got ATC in mid-July, ETC in early August, the opening of the Warhammer Citadel and NOVA in late August/early September. I think that after that there is usually no huge events in the U.S. until after the new year. I'm not very familiar with European events, what big things are coming up besides ETC?

Edit: I forgot Gencon in early August, but does GW have an official presence at that event?

 ikeulhu wrote:
The way things are going I am sadly starting to wonder if they are going to make us wait for an Orktober release.

What's frustrating is delaying a release just for a pun. However, if the release was worthy of the title - with new models, etc - that's a bit more palatable.

 Dakka Flakka Flame wrote:
I think they still have some Nighaunt and Stormcast models that haven't gone up for pre-order. That , combined with Kill Team, makes me think it's pretty unlikely there will be any Ork or SW releases in July. They might start giving us some previews in July though.

GW often releases information at big events. We've got ATC in mid-July, ETC in early August, the opening of the Warhammer Citadel and NOVA in late August/early September. I think that after that there is usually no huge events in the U.S. until after the new year. I'm not very familiar with European events, what big things are coming up besides ETC?

Edit: I forgot Gencon in early August, but does GW have an official presence at that event?

There is also Warhammerfest Europe in August. There will definitely be some reveals at that event.

Unless there are a lot more SW models than are currently predicted (i.e. an upgrade pack and maybe a Primaris character) I'd expect Orks to be about 2 weeks behind.

I'd therefore expect mid to late August. Seems weird to advertise it as early as they did if its as far out as October.

Also because it would probably mean (assuming we have the right order) Genestealer Cult were not appearing for ages, which is weird given we have seen the models. (Which again, bodes badly for a significant Ork release.)

Tyel wrote:
Unless there are a lot more SW models than are currently predicted (i.e. an upgrade pack and maybe a Primaris character) I'd expect Orks to be about 2 weeks behind.

I'd personally be surprised if SW only got that. They are a very popular faction and Russ is surely the favourite candidate for the next primarch to return.

Chikout wrote:
There is also Warhammerfest Europe in August. There will definitely be some reveals at that event.

That's certainly a big one that I didn't know about!


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For me the uncertainty is worse than the simple waiting. Like if they were to come out and say that the Ork codex was delayed until September due to some production problem and we aren't getting any new models I honestly wouldn't be all that mad.

Obviously I have a preference for getting new stuff,and I'm fine with waiting longer to get it, but it would be nice to have a vague idea of what to expect.

I forget, was it confirmed GW said SW and Orks were the next two codexes? The reason is ask is because we’ve been getting a lot of genestealer cult rumors and such lately, I’m wondering if it’s possible they might be first or between SW and Orks ( or vice versa)


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Chikout wrote:

For me the uncertainty is worse than the simple waiting. Like if they were to come out and say that the Ork codex was delayed until September due to some production problem and we aren't getting any new models I honestly wouldn't be all that mad.

Obviously I have a preference for getting new stuff,and I'm fine with waiting longer to get it, but it would be nice to have a vague idea of what to expect.

Fully agreed

 Billagio wrote:
I forget, was it confirmed GW said SW and Orks were the next two codexes? The reason is ask is because we’ve been getting a lot of genestealer cult rumors and such lately, I’m wondering if it’s possible they might be first or between SW and Orks ( or vice versa)


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Chikout wrote:

For me the uncertainty is worse than the simple waiting. Like if they were to come out and say that the Ork codex was delayed until September due to some production problem and we aren't getting any new models I honestly wouldn't be all that mad.

Obviously I have a preference for getting new stuff,and I'm fine with waiting longer to get it, but it would be nice to have a vague idea of what to expect.

Fully agreed

yeah I'm wondering if the release order might actually be GSC, SW Orks..

Kill Team will be orks v wolves I bet.


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Then GSC last. IMO


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I check the rumor sites every friggin day.

Bad new boyz and grots, we're probably waiting around for another month

The WD Preview doesent have a hint of Ork in it IIRC.

August/Sept maybe... But definitely not this Month,


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GSC is definitely AFTER Orks and SW. From the Warhammer-Community site June 1st
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/06/01/codexes-kings-cawdors-and-more/

With Codex: Imperial Knights available to pre-order this weekend, it’s high time we revealed just what’s coming next…

These codexes are two of the most requested, but rest assured, the wait will be worth it – both the Orks and Space Wolves codexes will be absolutely packed with new content for your games. If you’ve been looking on enviously as other factions get their time in the sun, your patience will soon be rewarded.

The keen-eyed among you will note that this only leaves a single xenos faction still lurking in the shadows… Well, good news – there’s something crawling down the pipe for the forces of the Genestealer Cults too – and he has three arms, three eyes, one and a half heads… and a stop sign."

The fact they acknowledge they're the most requested codecies means that if they do not give them anything big that the community can freak out even more... as i say, I would love big but really I just want to see people be able to buy a warboss in store and make any kind of ork army they want without being trashed.

Also, might be nothing but what is thr thing on the back of the boy in the killteam trailer? Is it just stick bombs or something?

 lolman1c wrote:
The fact they acknowledge they're the most requested codecies means that if they do not give them anything big that the community can freak out even more... as i say, I would love big but really I just want to see people be able to buy a warboss in store and make any kind of ork army they want without being trashed.

Also, might be nothing but what is thr thing on the back of the boy in the killteam trailer? Is it just stick bombs or something?

Yeah, just looks like that standard sack of stickbombs that comes in boyz kits.

Return of the old Stikk Bommas unit confirmed!

It's hard to make out the helmeted ork behind the one with the stikkbombs, but we don't know that he's not funny lookin', so I'm calling a return of Madboyz "probable" but not 100% confirmed like the Stikk Bommas.

Honestly, did not know they had a stick bomb sack... i must have missed that on my sprues or used it for something else.

There is a lot of burna boyz in the trailer but no warboss to be seen. It's weird, every faction in the trailer shows off lots of units but when ever you see orks it's just boyz and burna boyz...

Which coukd mean 1 of 3 things!

1. GW sees them as a NPC race to just demolish the boyz.

2. We have new hqs and units gw don't want to show off yet.

3. We're looking too much into it and gw just grabbed random handfuls of models from random factions.


Btw, wondering what ever happened to my waaagh campaign I sent to gw. A whole bunch of us sent letters with suggestions as well as ork boyz and nobz.... I did get a reply from the 40k fb team saying they did notice more boyz around the office but that's about it...

It's gonna be wolves v Orks w kill team. I'm tellin ya.

 doktor_g wrote:
It's gonna be wolves v Orks w kill team. I'm tellin ya.

ya know I could see it, a wolves vs orks kill team box, with some new minis, followed by Ork and SW codices

BrianDavion wrote:

 doktor_g wrote:
It's gonna be wolves v Orks w kill team. I'm tellin ya.

ya know I could see it, a wolves vs orks kill team box, with some new minis, followed by Ork and SW codices

If it was Primaris Space Wolves vs new plastic Kommandoz that would be cool (the orks might need some more stuff to balance it out in terms of points).

So now it's rumors about when rumors for orks will surface.

Nine pages of nothing.

Tyel wrote:
Unless there are a lot more SW models than are currently predicted (i.e. an upgrade pack and maybe a Primaris character) I'd expect Orks to be about 2 weeks behind.

I'd therefore expect mid to late August. Seems weird to advertise it as early as they did if its as far out as October.

Also because it would probably mean (assuming we have the right order) Genestealer Cult were not appearing for ages, which is weird given we have seen the models. (Which again, bodes badly for a significant Ork release.)

Stealers are probably far behind orks since they weren't shown together. And those new models are probably before codex alongside the kill team.

Also by now GW is probably looking to start fleshing out model releases as those are the money makers for them so long draught in new models isn't good for them either. So stealer models don't exclude ork models.

 Mousemuffins wrote:
So now it's rumors about when rumors for orks will surface.

Nine pages of nothing.

Yeah! Honestly, Not going to lie, I kind of love this thread. It personifies GW'S marketing. It's either genuinely amazing because our constant bickering, rumour analysing, spreading rumours, etc... all help GW out as we continue to talk about them even with absolutely 0 news! They don't even have to pay for a poster and we're nine pages in giving them free advertising because they said nothing! Also, you can't help but wonder if they read these threads looking for free ideas. OR! It's bafflingly dumb! We have nothing at all so we're having to make up crap from invisible sources. This creates mass hysteria, wishlisting, over exaggeration of what is going to actually happen dooming us all to disappointment and discourages us from buying anythign if gw does bring it out. Imknow a fewmpeople who are genuinely goi g to sell their ork army and quit 40k if the codex is bad because they've done that too other games.

I think it's also fun to watch and chat... keeps me busy as i sit on the toilet.

 Dakka Flakka Flame wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 doktor_g wrote:
It's gonna be wolves v Orks w kill team. I'm tellin ya.

ya know I could see it, a wolves vs orks kill team box, with some new minis, followed by Ork and SW codices

If it was Primaris Space Wolves vs new plastic Kommandoz that would be cool (the orks might need some more stuff to balance it out in terms of points).

KIll Team box is almost certainly going to be Genestealers neophytes vs. Skitarii. They featured heavily in the KT trailer and in the last couple teaser videos/images.

 lolman1c wrote:

 Mousemuffins wrote:
So now it's rumors about when rumors for orks will surface.

Nine pages of nothing.

Yeah! Honestly, Not going to lie, I kind of love this thread. It personifies GW'S marketing. It's either genuinely amazing because our constant bickering, rumour analysing, spreading rumours, etc... all help GW out as we continue to talk about them even with absolutely 0 news! They don't even have to pay for a poster and we're nine pages in giving them free advertising because they said nothing! Also, you can't help but wonder if they read these threads looking for free ideas. OR! It's bafflingly dumb! We have nothing at all so we're having to make up crap from invisible sources. This creates mass hysteria, wishlisting, over exaggeration of what is going to actually happen dooming us all to disappointment and discourages us from buying anythign if gw does bring it out. Imknow a fewmpeople who are genuinely goi g to sell their ork army and quit 40k if the codex is bad because they've done that too other games.

I think it's also fun to watch and chat... keeps me busy as i sit on the toilet.

Except there is a rumour, from someone who has apparently seen the codex and is under NDA. Rumours by definition are not confirmed, if you want confirmed news, don't click on a RUMOUR thread?

Those people who keep whining that there's 'x pages of nothing' realise they are actively making the page count higher with their off topic garbage yea?

 Insane Ivan wrote:
KIll Team box is almost certainly going to be Genestealers neophytes vs. Skitarii. They featured heavily in the KT trailer and in the last couple teaser videos/images.

Agreed. I'm guessing those cult models shown are actually precisely for that.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

 lolman1c wrote:

 Mousemuffins wrote:
So now it's rumors about when rumors for orks will surface.

Nine pages of nothing.

Yeah! Honestly, Not going to lie, I kind of love this thread. It personifies GW'S marketing. It's either genuinely amazing because our constant bickering, rumour analysing, spreading rumours, etc... all help GW out as we continue to talk about them even with absolutely 0 news! They don't even have to pay for a poster and we're nine pages in giving them free advertising because they said nothing! Also, you can't help but wonder if they read these threads looking for free ideas. OR! It's bafflingly dumb! We have nothing at all so we're having to make up crap from invisible sources. This creates mass hysteria, wishlisting, over exaggeration of what is going to actually happen dooming us all to disappointment and discourages us from buying anythign if gw does bring it out. Imknow a fewmpeople who are genuinely goi g to sell their ork army and quit 40k if the codex is bad because they've done that too other games.

I think it's also fun to watch and chat... keeps me busy as i sit on the toilet.

Except there is a rumour, from someone who has apparently seen the codex and is under NDA. Rumours by definition are not confirmed, if you want confirmed news, don't click on a RUMOUR thread?

Those people who keep whining that there's 'x pages of nothing' realise they are actively making the page count higher with their off topic garbage yea?

You talking about me because my entire post was focused on how I love this thread? I'm confused.

 lolman1c wrote:
You talking about me because my entire post was focused on how I love this thread? I'm confused.

Not entirely but yes to a point. I haven't just pulled this info out of my rear end because it's stuff I'd like to see, then persuaded someone else to do a video on it. It's a legit rumour.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

 lolman1c wrote:
You talking about me because my entire post was focused on how I love this thread? I'm confused.

Not entirely but yes to a point. I haven't just pulled this info out of my rear end because it's stuff I'd like to see, then persuaded someone else to do a video on it. It's a legit rumour.

I don't even really mention that, I more focused on GW and marketing but you gotta admit a rumour basically is pulled out of your ass even if it turns out to be true. There is no way any of us can confirm any of this is true untill something more official comes out. Really, we all latch onto rumours because they have things we want in them, it's why we focus on them rather than the other rumours. You even say yourself at the start:

"Source is weak but if you're as desperate as me for new Ork info you'll probably be willing to give this a watch. "

The source is weak... it basically right now is a schrodinger's rumour.... it could be made up, or it could be real... we can go into why it is and is not. That's the fun of this thread. It coukd have been pulled out of thin air by a troll to see how gullible people are, or it could be a real guy who heard knows the real deal. It's a mystery and i love that. So anyone who says it is and is not is both correct and wrong. I flip a lot in my post's because one day I'm feeling down and believe it's fake and one day i feel hopeful and hope it's real.


Wait... waiiiit.... waaaaaaaity justy a secondooo der mah boy!

" I haven't just pulled this info out of my rear end because it's stuff I'd like to see, then persuaded someone else to do a video on it. It's a legit rumour." - did you start this rumour?


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As for right now... i'm in a "Meh, don't care" mood as for if this is legit or not. I mean a NDA? What for? NDA for looking at the models? I get a NDA for beta testing a codex but the codex doesn't show you new kits and future content with an exsact month if all the data sheets are the same as the index.

Like if I had the ork codex right now under nda how would i know we are getting a new warboss if the weapons are the same as the old codex? The only thing in the codex is the looted vechiles but he doesn't know if gw will sell a kit for them. He even says they have lots of options, so does he have access to both the codex and kit now?

I wish I could be under NDA to walk into a room full of upcoming GW models and skim throuh the codex and get told about when the models are comming out atter the codex.