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Bowie wrote:

 lolman1c wrote:
Rumours from a unknown source just come in from my end:

Gw is recalling all the ork models. And I mean all of them! New ones like trukks, Gorkanaut, dakkajets, etc... Okay, i know there is a lot of parody in this thread but I'm actually serious about this one! They are recalling them according to my source so this might suggest they're repackaging them. Doubt they would replace the whole army and I doubt they woukd limit the entire ork rnage to online only.

Interesting if true, have they ever recalled an entire product line before? How long would a repack take, couple of months maybe?

Last time they did this... was with Squats.

The kill team starter set looks to have the burna/loota kit. So I think that's staying.

New orks*....



Just they're for Kill Team, not 40k...

https://warhammer-community.com/2018/07/05/5th-july-kill-team-the-game-youve-been-waiting-forgw-homepage-post-2/






*I have no idea if these are actually new models or not, I suspect not.

Just the Standard Bura Boyz sprue in coloured plastic

but depending on the price the mechanicus terrain stuff in there too could make it tempting

 lolman1c wrote:
My source comes from someone who actually went to a gw store and was told this. I trust this person but, as I say, it's hard to trust me because you don't know me. But seriously, not trolling, this comes from a customer not a "my mates brothers girlfriends dads work friend who knows a guy in gw". Just a jormal dude who was in a gw store.

It's a common practice for them to recall all boxes to repackage them with new rules and the new colored construction manual. it has happened for previous releases as well.

If anything, all recalled products are confirmed to be in the new codex

Prepare for some kits going to online only with that generic white box as well. Recently ordered a Necron Doomsday Ark, and was a bit surprised to get the white Citadel box.

The Space Wolf kill-team comes with transfers, but the ork one doesn't show any. Not sure what that might indicate, if anything. A new transfer sheet for orks which isn't quite ready?

Space wolves and orks being the first two expansions in kill team bodes well for a bigger release for both in 40k

Yeah, that kill team is notning new at all... kinda lazy.

As for the recall, i was thinking new codex data sheets. Must be a big change if they all have to go back. I have heard theories that they are moving the ork line to online only but this woukd be sucide and a bad business move. It would be cheaper to just sell the products in store untill you ran out... a mass recall is expensive!


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 Perfect Organism wrote:
The Space Wolf kill-team comes with transfers, but the ork one doesn't show any. Not sure what that might indicate, if anything. A new transfer sheet for orks which isn't quite ready?

Orks have a pretty good transfer sheet with ever clan on.


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Just read the FAQ:

" WHAT MODELS CAN I HAVE IN MY KILL TEAM?
Every Kill Team faction has 1-6 specially chosen datasheets you can choose units from,
designed to represent the kind of forces that would be sent on the guerilla operations for which
kill teams are famous. We’ve picked plastic kits which can be converted and kitbashed for
these, plus some units – like Craftworlds Rangers and Kommandos – that it’d be weird to leave
out."


Looks lioe no plastic Kommandos boyz! Sorry!


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I would also like to remind everyone that the new GSC models are no where tp be found in the new Killteam starter set... Basically meaning it's for the codex and basically meaning they are likely to be the faction to get the big update.

lolman1c wrote:

 cuda1179 wrote:
It's been a long while since any codex had a "big release". Marines got the primaris update, Nurgle got some love, Custodes got 3 kits, and everyone else got a scrap here or there at most. That means that it will be 7 months since anything major. I think we're due.

Has anyone else found it surprising that GW has never released a Squigoth model (of any size). It seems almost like a no-brainer choice that Ork players would buy in mass.

They haven't because FW sells two squiggoths. And one of them isn't even a totally unreasonable price.

I don't get this comment. Just because Forge World does it, why would it stop Games Workshop from doing it? After all, only way to get Forge World is through online. They don't sell them in GW stores. Not everyone buys online. Makes bad business sense to not make a product to sell in stores just because FW sells online only. I don't buy FW because of shipping. If I can buy it at a store GW has my money. If FW only GW doesn't have my money then. What makes more business sense?

So again I don't understand just because FW does it means GW will not.

All that means is there is no plastic kit for Kommandoes at present, and they don't want to reveal future releases at this stage. Plastic Kommandoes could be several months away, they would not mention them in a FAQ that won't even be especially relevant by then (it explains release decisions for Killteam).

Plastic kommandos seem kind of unlikely anyway, considering that they have a decent finecast kit, they are easy to kitbash from existing parts (or just represent with a paintjob) and there are a lot more things in the ork codex which need new models more urgently.

I honestly don't want them, I'm just analysing new evidence to support or disprove rumours and wishlisting.

The kill team boxes confirm the 'Ork vs Space Wolves' rumour. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if we released with no new models and a lacklustre codex. "New" GW is basically old GW but with better marketing. They're exactly the same.

 lolman1c wrote:

I would also like to remind everyone that the new GSC models are no where tp be found in the new Killteam starter set... Basically meaning it's for the codex and basically meaning they are likely to be the faction to get the big update.

Or they are for expansion. Or there's multiple big releases. So far we don't know anything certain about ork release.

Davor wrote:

lolman1c wrote:

 cuda1179 wrote:
It's been a long while since any codex had a "big release". Marines got the primaris update, Nurgle got some love, Custodes got 3 kits, and everyone else got a scrap here or there at most. That means that it will be 7 months since anything major. I think we're due.

Has anyone else found it surprising that GW has never released a Squigoth model (of any size). It seems almost like a no-brainer choice that Ork players would buy in mass.

They haven't because FW sells two squiggoths. And one of them isn't even a totally unreasonable price.

I don't get this comment. Just because Forge World does it, why would it stop Games Workshop from doing it? After all, only way to get Forge World is through online. They don't sell them in GW stores. Not everyone buys online. Makes bad business sense to not make a product to sell in stores just because FW sells online only. I don't buy FW because of shipping. If I can buy it at a store GW has my money. If FW only GW doesn't have my money then. What makes more business sense?

So again I don't understand just because FW does it means GW will not.

Also, it has happened before. Remember this guy? The Forgeworld resin Battlewagon:

 Oguhmek wrote:
Also, it has happened before. Remember this guy? The Forgeworld resin Battlewagon:

Baneblade, HH marines...If product has enough market in plastic GW will make plastics to get higher margins.

So does that starter kit not include the Deff Gun?
Also I hate when they advertise it as "5 Burna Boys" because you only get 4 burnas in the kit. The 5th model is a mek

 cuda1179 wrote:
It's been a long while since any codex had a "big release". Marines got the primaris update, Nurgle got some love, Custodes got 3 kits, and everyone else got a scrap here or there at most. That means that it will be 7 months since anything major. I think we're due.

Has anyone else found it surprising that GW has never released a Squigoth model (of any size). It seems almost like a no-brainer choice that Ork players would buy in mass.

you forget Imperial Knights which got 4 new kits. even if we admit that of those, it's two kit varients and shrink it down to 2 kits each that's still pretty good (and if we're going to do that we should discount hellblasters as unique from Intercessors)

 Icculus wrote:
So does that starter kit not include the Deff Gun?
Also I hate when they advertise it as "5 Burna Boys" because you only get 4 burnas in the kit. The 5th model is a mek

Haha, I don't think the people who designed it know their own Ork product. They probably looked at it, didn't play Orks and went "yep, all bunra boyz. He clearly has a flame thrower and not an advanced peice of tecknolgy the imperium would dream of having".


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BrianDavion wrote:

 cuda1179 wrote:
It's been a long while since any codex had a "big release". Marines got the primaris update, Nurgle got some love, Custodes got 3 kits, and everyone else got a scrap here or there at most. That means that it will be 7 months since anything major. I think we're due.

Has anyone else found it surprising that GW has never released a Squigoth model (of any size). It seems almost like a no-brainer choice that Ork players would buy in mass.

you forget Imperial Knights which got 4 new kits. even if we admit that of those, it's two kit varients and shrink it down to 2 kits each that's still pretty good (and if we're going to do that we should discount hellblasters as unique from Intercessors)

And they went on about it for weeks!

All the negativity here based on practically nothing is driving me up the wall

As for a whole range being recalled, I'm sure that happened to Dark Eldar

Caederes wrote:
All the negativity here based on practically nothing is driving me up the wall

As for a whole range being recalled, I'm sure that happened to Dark Eldar

Meh, I'm just being real... I seriously want to be proven wrong! I want to make a 40k general theead apologising to all those I told we wouldn't be getting anything. Yet, I would also probably make a thread syaing "I told you so" because I am actually never right.... so would be nice to be right for once. Yet that's only a small thing i want to be some ind of therapy to help me through the cidex if it all goes wrong.

I 90% want an epic Ork range and to be proven wrong.
10% want to be a 'I told you so' thread but only to help me get through not getting a good codex as my tears wet my keyboard.

Caederes wrote:
All the negativity here based on practically nothing is driving me up the wall

As for a whole range being recalled, I'm sure that happened to Dark Eldar

The negativity is precisely BECAUSE there is nothing. We've seen new GSC models ffs. At this point it feels like classic GW trolling Ork players. Late codex, no new releases, have fun guys. Personally I'm sick of it.

Also, wish they did more with thr ork kill team box... I mean come on! It comes with Imperial terrian and a sprue we already have! What an insult! Space wolves primaris stuff might also suggets nothing new for them... It would make no business sence to package old models if new bettermones come outnin a month. Which is all the evidence I need to prove that none or us are getting much.


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Also the burna boyz are on a 32mm base rather than their normal 25mm for what ever that means... do we now have to rebase all our burna boyz? I got 8 I'd rather not have to touch because I'm happy with them. XD

I'd actually prefer them not to announce ork codex only to follow it up with 1 month of absolute silence on the matter.

Where are our damn teasers and previews?

 JawRippa wrote:
I'd actually prefer them not to announce ork codex only to follow it up with 1 month of absolute silence on the matter.

Where are our damn teasers and previews?

This is wat i am saying! If they had anything for Ork boyz they probably would have announced it in Kill team to build hype.

However, this does mean there is still hope for warbosses, buggies, kopptas and looted stuff as they're not kill team.

The kustom dice are confirmed (althouh i have the orginal Ork dice and they're perfect for me) but it's kill team rather than 40k so either they're doing 2 sets of dice or the guy was wrong.

 lolman1c wrote:
Yeah, that kill team is notning new at all... kinda lazy.

GW develops a whole new game.

"Kinda lazy."

Uh-huh. Sure.

 lolman1c wrote:
Also, wish they did more with thr ork kill team box... I mean come on! It comes with Imperial terrian and a sprue we already have! What an insult! Space wolves primaris stuff might also suggets nothing new for them... It would make no business sence to package old models if new bettermones come outnin a month. Which is all the evidence I need to prove that none or us are getting much.

I don't think this has any bearing on future releases. We know for a fact that gsc is getting new minis and yet the Killteam box is using the old ones.
The spacewolves and ork codexes were announced a little early to ensure 40k fans that they wouldn't be abandoned when aos2 launched.
There has not been a 40k related preview event since those codexes were announced. The next likely preview event is Warhammerfest Europe in the middle of August.
With Killteam, the remainder of the stormcast and nighthaunt, Cawdor and Titanicus all coming in the near future, I would not expect to see gw show anything new for space wolves or orks until then.
If we see nothing then or at Nova at the end of August, then ork players can begin to worry.
I am still optimistic as we still have that wheel rumour engine which has not been solved.
There is the outside possibility that it could be a new gsc vehicle, but my money is still firmly on orks. By the way, was it not rumoured months ago that orks would not see new minis until a cult of speed expansion at the end of the year?
That rumour is looking more likely by the day.

 lolman1c wrote:
Also, wish they did more with thr ork kill team box... I mean come on! It comes with Imperial terrian and a sprue we already have! What an insult! Space wolves primaris stuff might also suggets nothing new for them... It would make no business sence to package old models if new bettermones come outnin a month. Which is all the evidence I need to prove that none or us are getting much.


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Also the burna boyz are on a 32mm base rather than their normal 25mm for what ever that means... do we now have to rebase all our burna boyz? I got 8 I'd rather not have to touch because I'm happy with them. XD

no space wolf player is expecting anything but standard priamris with a upgrade sprue. anything else is bonus. It's not like anyone is expecting "Primaris Marines on Primaris wolves, with wolfguns and wolfblades"

I'd not get too fixated on the Ork kill team box, GW's not gonna tip their hand with anything, it does however mean if you where hoping for a new burna boy kit you're likely SOL. as for the terrain, you're an Ork player, convert it! jeeze man, Orkifying stuff has been a proud Ork tradtion since 40k started.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 lolman1c wrote:
Yeah, that kill team is notning new at all... kinda lazy.

GW develops a whole new game.

"Kinda lazy."

Uh-huh. Sure.

In all fairness....Kill Team has been a thing for a LONG time. This is just a new release with new rules. And since Kill Team was pretty awesome already I don't know if they will have changed all that much except to reflect 8th editions new rules.