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They sure change kill team from digging through codex and find the most broken unit to spam to a standalone rule.

SemperMortis wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 lolman1c wrote:
Yeah, that kill team is notning new at all... kinda lazy.

GW develops a whole new game.

"Kinda lazy."

Uh-huh. Sure.

In all fairness....Kill Team has been a thing for a LONG time. This is just a new release with new rules. And since Kill Team was pretty awesome already I don't know if they will have changed all that much except to reflect 8th editions new rules.

The old kill team rules were 1-2 pages this is a large book. It’s a completely reworked from the ground up skirmish game using the kill team brand not reprinting of rules.

I’m likely buying the large box set (even though I don’t play GSC or ad mech but the discount makes them
Free) I may buy another building if not all the ruins are included. I’d want the ork boxset howeve I already have the servo hauler and don’t need 2. It’s not a good blocking terrain piece but I guess it’s good for conversions.

 lolman1c wrote:
Also, wish they did more with thr ork kill team box... I mean come on! It comes with Imperial terrian and a sprue we already have! What an insult! Space wolves primaris stuff might also suggets nothing new for them... It would make no business sence to package old models if new bettermones come outnin a month. Which is all the evidence I need to prove that none or us are getting much.


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Also the burna boyz are on a 32mm base rather than their normal 25mm for what ever that means... do we now have to rebase all our burna boyz? I got 8 I'd rather not have to touch because I'm happy with them. XD

In a month that box has sold huge amount of what it will sell in it's lifetime. Thus no big deal.

As for imperial terrain...well ork terrain would be nice but idea that they would now release terrains to all factions is a pipe dream


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SemperMortis wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 lolman1c wrote:
Yeah, that kill team is notning new at all... kinda lazy.

GW develops a whole new game.

"Kinda lazy."

Uh-huh. Sure.

In all fairness....Kill Team has been a thing for a LONG time. This is just a new release with new rules. And since Kill Team was pretty awesome already I don't know if they will have changed all that much except to reflect 8th editions new rules.

Not sure what 8th ed has to do with kt seeing kt is stand alone game with own rules, not 8th ed lite. 8th for example doesn#t have alternating actions

BrianDavion wrote:
no space wolf player is expecting anything but standard priamris with a upgrade sprue. anything else is bonus. It's not like anyone is expecting "Primaris Marines on Primaris wolves, with wolfguns and wolfblades"

Why wouldn't you expect that? They are the most popular marine chapter, so they seem likely to get something more than blood angels, etc. did and it's not like there is any model concept or naming scheme too stupid for space wolves.

All i can see is the new bases, there is no fething way i am going to rebase 250 painted models.

My entire ork colllection is going to be invalid or what?

 jhnbrg wrote:
All i can see is the new bases, there is no fething way i am going to rebase 250 painted models.

My entire ork colllection is going to be invalid or what?

Depends on your standards. I still rock my marines on 25mm bases and don't get much critique for it. Not playing in any GW arranged events though

So i live down the street from the guy that runs my local gw and I bumped into him when he was walking his dog. He had heard nothing about an ork recal but i suppose its possible that he didn't get the memo somehow. I then called my lgs and they had not heard anything either. That's the problem with he said she said rumors. The moment you say "someone told me" you remove yourself from being incorrect. What probably happened is someone saw the post from GW YORK and assumed the faction was being recalled. Gw stores have limited space and only keep on hand what sells well at their store. Is anyone surprised orks don't sell well?


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 jhnbrg wrote:
All i can see is the new bases, there is no fething way i am going to rebase 250 painted models.

My entire ork colllection is going to be invalid or what?

Isn't the standard reply that models should be based on the bases they were supplied with? As far as I am aware, no-one from GW has stated that you must rebase older models.


The majority of my Marines and Orks are based on 25mm because that is what they were supplied with. They will remain on those.

 jhnbrg wrote:
All i can see is the new bases, there is no fething way i am going to rebase 250 painted models.

My entire ork colllection is going to be invalid or what?

yeah, I thought people might pick up on this more but they all focused on the other stuff I said that I don't even remember caring about when i typed it. XD It is werid and is also kinda a mini nerf to orks... it will be harder to find more boyz in the same space and in cc. I really hope it's just formkill team.

As for the terrian. 1. Sure I can convert it but why would I want too? I don't own a table so this crap is useless to me. If it was orky or came with orky bits to convert it then maybe I would so it would go well on my shelf with my army but the majority of players don't own a table and arn't going out of their way to by more sutff to convert 1 peice of terrian.
2.I play at a GW. GW only uses official GW terrian. And I'm sick of imperial gothic ruins... Would love an orky table for once in my life.


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grimdark83 wrote:
So i live down the street from the guy that runs my local gw and I bumped into him when he was walking his dog. He had heard nothing about an ork recal but i suppose its possible that he didn't get the memo somehow. I then called my lgs and they had not heard anything either. That's the problem with he said she said rumors. The moment you say "someone told me" you remove yourself from being incorrect. What probably happened is someone saw the post from GW YORK and assumed the faction was being recalled. Gw stores have limited space and only keep on hand what sells well at their store. Is anyone surprised orks don't sell well?


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No the source comes from a friend of mine i know. I did say though that we shouldn't look too much into it and it could just be them. Also he doesn't live in york.

to be frank, its really easy to be pessimistic against ork releases because as someone mentioned several pages ago, ork players have been completely SCREWED OVER since 5th ed.
I know a lot of ork players that stated this is the final straw if GW gives them the shortstick again. You dont shaft a faction for almost 10 years and expect the fanbase to stick around. I'm tempted to do the same, but i dont care about tournament viability i just want casual games to be playable. Cant even casually play atm unless my opponent is dense to what orks do.

Wait the whole recall thing was a “legit” rumor? I thought it was just lolman trolling and showing how easy it is to make gak up and call it a “rumor”

Well, if Orkz are expected to get 32mm treatment, their kits would have to be recalled. I'm surprised it wasn't done earlier.

 Billagio wrote:
Wait the whole recall thing was a “legit” rumor? I thought it was just lolman trolling and showing how easy it is to make gak up and call it a “rumor”

The exact wording of the post from GW: York is that these were put in "Last Chance to Buy In Store", meaning they're likely due for reboxing and new instructions, etc.

I understand I'll be in the minority on this one, but I really hope that 32mm becomes standard for ork boyz "and up". Most people I know still play marines on 25mm so as long as they don't force people to rebase hundreds of boyz it's a great idea. I understand it might change how people specifically use large ork mobz (better board coverage vs more easily fit many models in CC)

Since orks are my fun army I already base my boyz on 32's and it just looks so much better. That weird stance they have simply doesn't fit on 25's.

Any more actual rumours or.....

Caederes wrote:
All the negativity here based on practically nothing is driving me up the wall

As for a whole range being recalled, I'm sure that happened to Dark Eldar

Nothing really being the key word here.

There's been a whole lot of nothing going on to promote optimism, tease or excite people.

If boyz goto 32mm, im glad i dont play tournaments.
Rebasing 200+ boyz ... no thanks. I was miffed as it is rebasing my Crisis Suits because i had done some nice bases for them, i actually enjoy basing more than painting the model itself.
Granted, kinda cant do anything fancy on a tiny base but its still annoying and a good chunk of change to get that many 32mms.

Not rumour, but fact:

One of the best piece in the ork range is OOP:

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Ork-Trukk-with-Enclosed-Cab

And the big squiggoth is Temporarily out of stock again...

I'm good with boyz on 25mm bases, but 32 mm bases look nice on nobz, and they're a morksend on stormboyz. I rebased all 30 of my stormboyz to 32s, and they're even more stable than 25mm's with a nickle glued in the bottom.

I use 32mm on boys also.
They just look better this way in my opinion.

 Vineheart01 wrote:
to be frank, its really easy to be pessimistic against ork releases because as someone mentioned several pages ago, ork players have been completely SCREWED OVER since 5th ed.
I know a lot of ork players that stated this is the final straw if GW gives them the shortstick again. You dont shaft a faction for almost 10 years and expect the fanbase to stick around. I'm tempted to do the same, but i dont care about tournament viability i just want casual games to be playable. Cant even casually play atm unless my opponent is dense to what orks do.

I've never played a single tournament i my life and Orks are bad! I played so mahy 8th edition casual games and lost 90% of them. For the first few weeks I won every game but then I realised it was because I have 90 orks because my mek armi3s failed instantly. Once the meta shifted I soon lost every game.... played 1 game vs Gullfac3man during the index phase and he smashed my Morkanaut into little peices and like 60 boyz single handedly in a few turns. XD i jist want to play a casual game where I present some kind of challenge.


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 Billagio wrote:
Wait the whole recall thing was a “legit” rumor? I thought it was just lolman trolling and showing how easy it is to make gak up and call it a “rumor”

No, I'm a smart troll not a chaotic one. I make witty jokes and fun posts that get people chatting but I never make crap up. This is actually a real thing I was told by a friend but, as I say, could just be his store. Maybe by me sharing the info I got someone in trouble. XD i hope not.


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 Kap'n Krump wrote:
I'm good with boyz on 25mm bases, but 32 mm bases look nice on nobz, and they're a morksend on stormboyz. I rebased all 30 of my stormboyz to 32s, and they're even more stable than 25mm's with a nickle glued in the bottom.

I think i sue terminator bases for nobz to make them stand out. Not sure if they're different size. But I would way prefer 25mm to stay with boyz. Just too much hassle for everyone and a really cheap and scummy way to get money from the ork tournament players (or what we have left of them). But this could just be a kill team thing...

Not to throw a wrench in the orks are bad...but I'm about 50/50 on my win/losses playing in multiple tournaments and events over the years. (Just played at adepticon and went 2-1-2) And I play dread mob basically with some buggies. [I'm not that good either]

I wouldn't call orks awful, just lacking in choices and options. Your standard build is basically boyz and stormboyz, with a few modifications here and there.

 lolman1c wrote:
As for the terrian. 1. Sure I can convert it but why would I want too? I don't own a table so this crap is useless to me. If it was orky or came with orky bits to convert it then maybe I would so it would go well on my shelf with my army but the majority of players don't own a table and arn't going out of their way to by more sutff to convert 1 peice of terrian.
2.I play at a GW. GW only uses official GW terrian. And I'm sick of imperial gothic ruins... Would love an orky table for once in my life.

I was going to buy the galvanic servohaulers for conversions anyway. Not to make terrain out of, but to loot to make models out of. The little tracked vehicles might make for good warbike conversions, or maybe grot tanks. The crane I was going to use to make a wrecking ball arm for a stompa. The wheels and engine for the crane could make a couple carriages and batteries for Mek Gunz.

Maybe but again, we're a small minority who would even use it. I love conversation but would much rather the kit came with a sprue that had a bunch of unique heads, gliphs and orky bitz on to kit bash our Kill team character. Just seems like they threw the closest thing they had at hand into the box.

"Derek! We got this kill team comming up, what should we put in the boxes for Orks? I mean Kill team is know for making unique wacky characters that feel personal to the play".
"Ermmm, Just throw those packs of 5 burna boyz in we laying around. Nobody buys them anyway".
"But Derek, then we'll be charging them extra for basically the same kit they can already buy with some extra peices of paper?"
"Oh... erm... is that bad? Well, I geuss we could throw those terrian crane things we got laying around from the other sets".
"Derek, you're telling me we give the players, especially Ork players, imperial Terrian when most of them play in stores and clubs anyway and we charge them extra for something they probably don't want? Dude! You're amazing! Also, Derek, I can't find the 5 burna boyz this kit only comes with 4 and a m-" Dave was never heard from again.


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Seriously though, I was going to buy a bunch of kits to make new kill teams but now I'll have a bunch of over priced crap to buy so it's kind of turned me off... why would you sell a rule book and then limit the rules for those factions, cutting them off and basically selling them as DLC! This is the exsact same crap we've been trying to stop in the gaming world and it's comming over to table top again.

Like nothing screams money grab than rules that were obviously meant to go into the main rulebool but were cut off to a sheet of paper you're forced to buy with models you already own and don't want. I just want the ful ork rules please! Or any full faction rules I paid the damn rule book to see! Sucks that someone could have an advantage over me with the same army because they had the money to buy the dlc that gave them some words on a peice of paper that made their army stronger....

Actual ork terrain would be cool, but one nice thing about Imperial terrain is that it is all BS 5+ making it easy to build orky equivalents (although I guess if it was BS 4+ we would just have grots manning the guns instead of orks).

I feel dumb for not picking up a Firestorm Redoubt when I had the chance. It would have been perfect for some of my projects. Now they usually go for really high prices.

Well, boys. It's getting real. We're getting burna boys and a mek.

 TedNugent wrote:
Well, boys. It's getting real. We're getting burna boys and a mek.

Push fit, monopose, green Burnas and a Mek!!!111oneonetwo

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

 TedNugent wrote:
Well, boys. It's getting real. We're getting burna boys and a mek.

Push fit, monopose, green Burnas and a Mek!!!111oneonetwo

Are they going to be a new push-fit kit of the same models? I assumed that it was going to be the regular burna/loota box.

 Dakka Flakka Flame wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

 TedNugent wrote:
Well, boys. It's getting real. We're getting burna boys and a mek.

Push fit, monopose, green Burnas and a Mek!!!111oneonetwo

Are they going to be a new push-fit kit of the same models? I assumed that it was going to be the regular burna/loota box.

I am pretty sure it is the standard sprue printed in green plastic, and packaged with some terrain and cards. So multipart, not monopose.

I'm still angrybthey advertise it as 5 burna boyz when in their package they clearly show a mek!