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 Dakka Flakka Flame wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 lolman1c wrote:
Rumours about beakies... i know it isn't Orks but the topic of bikers is always an orky thing to think about. (remember boyz, not all orks use their feet to get into battle).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeglAYpbDzI

the "primaris will replace old marines" bit is something I don't see we'll see coming for awhile, a lotta the basic marine molds are actually pretty new, GW'll proably use both for a forseeable time.

My hunch is somewhat close to Kirioth's rumor. I think we'll see them gradually roll out new Primaris units here and there tied to new Primarchs, Campaign books and chapter-specific codexes.

I expect them to have some support for regular Marines in 40k for the next five years, and maybe more like ten. On the other hand I wouldn't be shocked if they came out with a new "vanilla" SM codex that was Primaris-only after releasing a few more kits. They might tell regular Marine players to just keep using the old codex plus some fixes in Chapter Approved. It might be years before a new vanilla codex though if they start putting out books for White Scars, Iron Hands, Black Templars and the like instead of one big book to cover them all.

The above is all pure speculation, but I could easily see it happening. One other thing that I could see happening, but I think is less likely is them coming out with "historical" campaign books and rule sets for using regular Marines in between the events of the Horus Heresy and the Fall of Cadia. They might gradually stop supporting regular Space Marines in regular 40k, but still sell the models and tell people they should use them to play games set during the Age of Apostasy, Badab War, Armageddon 2, etc. while "current" 40k is pretty much just Primaris. (I'm not saying this is what I want, just that it's something I could see happening.)

Historicals coul;d be kinda cool actually., I'd LOOOVE to see a Historical trilogy that covers each of the wars of armageddon, and perhaps even finds a way to tie them together. Wouldn't it be awesome if we found out the world had something that was almost a beacon drawing in the most blood thristy warriors in the galaxy?

BrianDavion wrote:

 Dakka Flakka Flame wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 lolman1c wrote:
Rumours about beakies... i know it isn't Orks but the topic of bikers is always an orky thing to think about. (remember boyz, not all orks use their feet to get into battle).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeglAYpbDzI

the "primaris will replace old marines" bit is something I don't see we'll see coming for awhile, a lotta the basic marine molds are actually pretty new, GW'll proably use both for a forseeable time.

My hunch is somewhat close to Kirioth's rumor. I think we'll see them gradually roll out new Primaris units here and there tied to new Primarchs, Campaign books and chapter-specific codexes.

I expect them to have some support for regular Marines in 40k for the next five years, and maybe more like ten. On the other hand I wouldn't be shocked if they came out with a new "vanilla" SM codex that was Primaris-only after releasing a few more kits. They might tell regular Marine players to just keep using the old codex plus some fixes in Chapter Approved. It might be years before a new vanilla codex though if they start putting out books for White Scars, Iron Hands, Black Templars and the like instead of one big book to cover them all.

The above is all pure speculation, but I could easily see it happening. One other thing that I could see happening, but I think is less likely is them coming out with "historical" campaign books and rule sets for using regular Marines in between the events of the Horus Heresy and the Fall of Cadia. They might gradually stop supporting regular Space Marines in regular 40k, but still sell the models and tell people they should use them to play games set during the Age of Apostasy, Badab War, Armageddon 2, etc. while "current" 40k is pretty much just Primaris. (I'm not saying this is what I want, just that it's something I could see happening.)

Historicals coul;d be kinda cool actually., I'd LOOOVE to see a Historical trilogy that covers each of the wars of armageddon, and perhaps even finds a way to tie them together. Wouldn't it be awesome if we found out the world had something that was almost a beacon drawing in the most blood thristy warriors in the galaxy?

Isnt it the ork homeworld?

 davou wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 Dakka Flakka Flame wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 lolman1c wrote:
Rumours about beakies... i know it isn't Orks but the topic of bikers is always an orky thing to think about. (remember boyz, not all orks use their feet to get into battle).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeglAYpbDzI

the "primaris will replace old marines" bit is something I don't see we'll see coming for awhile, a lotta the basic marine molds are actually pretty new, GW'll proably use both for a forseeable time.

My hunch is somewhat close to Kirioth's rumor. I think we'll see them gradually roll out new Primaris units here and there tied to new Primarchs, Campaign books and chapter-specific codexes.

I expect them to have some support for regular Marines in 40k for the next five years, and maybe more like ten. On the other hand I wouldn't be shocked if they came out with a new "vanilla" SM codex that was Primaris-only after releasing a few more kits. They might tell regular Marine players to just keep using the old codex plus some fixes in Chapter Approved. It might be years before a new vanilla codex though if they start putting out books for White Scars, Iron Hands, Black Templars and the like instead of one big book to cover them all.

The above is all pure speculation, but I could easily see it happening. One other thing that I could see happening, but I think is less likely is them coming out with "historical" campaign books and rule sets for using regular Marines in between the events of the Horus Heresy and the Fall of Cadia. They might gradually stop supporting regular Space Marines in regular 40k, but still sell the models and tell people they should use them to play games set during the Age of Apostasy, Badab War, Armageddon 2, etc. while "current" 40k is pretty much just Primaris. (I'm not saying this is what I want, just that it's something I could see happening.)

Historicals coul;d be kinda cool actually., I'd LOOOVE to see a Historical trilogy that covers each of the wars of armageddon, and perhaps even finds a way to tie them together. Wouldn't it be awesome if we found out the world had something that was almost a beacon drawing in the most blood thristy warriors in the galaxy?

Isnt it the ork homeworld?

Maybe, it was Ulanor at one time, which was the center of the beast's empire at the Ork empire of the emperor's time. Weather or not it's the world the species orignated on (if the Orks ever orginated on any world) is an open question. But the world does seem to have a... signfcigance to the Orks, it also seems to have some appeal to Khorne, be intreasting to find out why.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
There's no current fluff of Orks falling to Chaos or to the effects of a Cult.There's a brief mention in the last GSC codex that hints at possible Orkoid assimilation, that's all. "Tuska Deamon-KILLA" as his name implies, is not, and has never been, a servant of Khorne (willingly at least). There's no other mentions of Chaos I know of and I have both 7th Ed codex and Ghazghkull supplement right here. Why would Tyranids make hybrid Orks as part of an ongoing conflict when they do not make hybrids of other races as part of an ongoing conflict? They feed off other races. At most they take the most successful aspects of a race and integrate it into their own as the hivemind sees fit. Orks are an almost limitless supply of food. If the hivemind figures out how to produce them, it no longer needs to fight and wage war for sustenance and can grow almost indefinitely.

Codex: Death Guard wrote:The Green Death
The infected Ork warbands invading the Ecclesiarchy world of Sanctia evince a terrible new barbarism. They fall upon the planet’s defenders and consume them bodily, devouring the living and the dead alike, as if compelled by a daemonic hunger. Bloating and swelling, the Orks become obese monstrosities that can move only at a snail’s pace. Puzzled by this strange reprieve, the Adepta Sororitas systematically purge the Orks with flame and bolter. It is then that Mortarion and the Death Guard of the 7th Plague Company make planetfall. The Daemon Primarch looms over the bodies of the Orks as he stalks to the front lines. At his passing, each greenskin bursts apart in a shower of foul fluids, and dozens of Nurglings spill out from their remains to follow their master. Sanctia falls to the Green Death within twenty hours of Mortarion’s arrival, and the plague spreads across the Ecclesiarchy-held system.

Codex: Orks (2008) wrote:With every new dawn upon the blood-world, Tuska and his Orks find themselves whole again. They fight their way across the gory swamps in an eternal cycle of battle and death, puppets oft he Lord of Battles until the end of time.

In regard to chaos orks, this is a simple case of your head-canon not matching the official fluff.

Well right now I'm making a chaos plague ork HQ. He is not an Ork that as fallen to chaos though. He jist beat the heck out of a lord of contagion and stole his armour and weapons. XD

To be fair, the LoC has probably one of the finest Big Choppas out there


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Ork Stratagems from Killteam, maybe a peak at what's to come since most stratagems are copy&paster from their respective codices:

1 CP Krump 'Em!
+1 to strength for one fight phase.

2 CP Gnasher Squig
On a 4+, inflicts one mortal wound onto a model within 1" of one of your models

1 CP Dakka Dakka Dakka
Shoot again

2 CP Just a flesh wound
On a 4+ a model stays alive instead of dying (not sure how this translates to 40k)

2CP Grot Shield - we've seen this

2 CP Mek's special stikkbomb
One model can throw a stikkbomb as Grenade d3, Strength +1, Damage +1

Oh, and this awesome quote:

Right ladz, listen up. Da humies ’ave got a big shiny box an’ it’s powerin’ all their gubbinz. Da plan is, we’ze goin’ to kick da door in, give ’em all sum dakka, chuck rokkits about ’til da box blows up like Mugrot’s buggy in dat minefield, and bosh, job’s a good ’un! Any questions? Nah? Good, didn’t fink so… Let’s get stuck in den boyz! WAAAGH!’
- Boss Nob Gazrot Gitstompa just minutes before the infamous Meltdown Catastrophe of Generatorum Beta-2

Yes, that is a good qoute. Shows the ork having tacticsmwhile also being funny. Tbh, this tactic is pretty much (if not more) the same as most of the Imperiums tactics.

All stratagems are though. There are no more than 3-4 unique ones per codex.

 Jidmah wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
There's no current fluff of Orks falling to Chaos or to the effects of a Cult.There's a brief mention in the last GSC codex that hints at possible Orkoid assimilation, that's all. "Tuska Deamon-KILLA" as his name implies, is not, and has never been, a servant of Khorne (willingly at least). There's no other mentions of Chaos I know of and I have both 7th Ed codex and Ghazghkull supplement right here. Why would Tyranids make hybrid Orks as part of an ongoing conflict when they do not make hybrids of other races as part of an ongoing conflict? They feed off other races. At most they take the most successful aspects of a race and integrate it into their own as the hivemind sees fit. Orks are an almost limitless supply of food. If the hivemind figures out how to produce them, it no longer needs to fight and wage war for sustenance and can grow almost indefinitely.

Codex: Death Guard wrote:The Green Death
The infected Ork warbands invading the Ecclesiarchy world of Sanctia evince a terrible new barbarism. They fall upon the planet’s defenders and consume them bodily, devouring the living and the dead alike, as if compelled by a daemonic hunger. Bloating and swelling, the Orks become obese monstrosities that can move only at a snail’s pace. Puzzled by this strange reprieve, the Adepta Sororitas systematically purge the Orks with flame and bolter. It is then that Mortarion and the Death Guard of the 7th Plague Company make planetfall. The Daemon Primarch looms over the bodies of the Orks as he stalks to the front lines. At his passing, each greenskin bursts apart in a shower of foul fluids, and dozens of Nurglings spill out from their remains to follow their master. Sanctia falls to the Green Death within twenty hours of Mortarion’s arrival, and the plague spreads across the Ecclesiarchy-held system.

Codex: Orks (2008) wrote:With every new dawn upon the blood-world, Tuska and his Orks find themselves whole again. They fight their way across the gory swamps in an eternal cycle of battle and death, puppets oft he Lord of Battles until the end of time.

In regard to chaos orks, this is a simple case of your head-canon not matching the official fluff.

Tuska is obviously not a 'Chaos Ork'. He's a puppet by chance not through worship or want. It couldn't be more clear - Tuska Daemon-KILLA. If anything that story is an example of Khorne infected with Orkiness, not the other way around. So in that case my 'head canon' and the fluff are exactly the same.

Your Nurgle Orks from Death Guard codex aren't worshipping Nurgle either. They're infected. Again its not a choice. Anything can get ill, it doesn't make them a Nurgle fan all of a sudden.

I made a massive post about this responding to an earlier comment but didn't post it because its way off topic. If you want to discuss Chaos or any other hybrid Orks, I would suggest making a new thread.

Anyone also think that the cap on 6s to hit in kill team is another test to see how well it works in the ork codex. With the way obscured works in KT, orks will always be hitting on a 6+

Gork and mork are chaos gods, people tend to forget that, so Orks are completely and utterly tied to chaos... just not “that” chaos.

 Formosa wrote:
Gork and mork are chaos gods, people tend to forget that, so Orks are completely and utterly tied to chaos... just not “that” chaos.

What exactly do you mean when you say Gork and Mork are chaos gods? Do you mean they are manifestations of the beliefs of greenskins in the warp? In that sense, yes they are. They are not, however, Khorne, Nurgle, Slaanesh or Tzeentch which is what everyone means when they say "Chaos".

Again and for the final time, let's put this to bed for this thread. If people want to discuss Chaos Orks or Cult Orks or whatever make a new thread.

 lolman1c wrote:
So we could be looking at next month for any info. Or at the very least September. Hehe (dark humour joke ahead for those thinking I'm being depressing) what if gw just never talks about the Ork codex again. Like it jever comes out and we ask "when's the codex comming" and they either don't reply, tell us soon, tell us it's already out we just can't see it because they made the codex purple or say "what do you mean? What's an ork?"

Ironically I can see GW's facebook community relations idiots saying exactly that. After all the Bullcrap they piled on us so far I wouldn't doubt it. Now with that said it wouldn't be the rules, true information or anything serious, but yeah I can totally see them doing that.

Codex wise....as every week and month comes and goes I am slowly beginning to convince myself that Orktober is going to be a thing. Whether or not its a band-aid on a gaping chest wound or if its a seriously kitted and fully supported release is up for debate, but at this point I just don't see us getting a release in August and I really think Space Pups will get September with GSC and that we will get Orktober and be the last main faction to get a codex (SOB are not a main faction).

Meh, the ore time goes on the more I worry less. I get to the conclusion that in my head if it does come outnin October and is still not what I want ( a codex wuth lots of options in both style of army and unit equipment (don't want op, just fairly priced points)) then I'll just use my money somewhere else. Simple. I got my army so i won't quit 40k just won't pay for it anymore.

Bought a few bits and pieces and my local GW today, but no novels and the staffer asked, "no books today?" and I told him I was saving up for the Ork Codex and his reply was, "well, you've got a few months to wait for that."

Orktober being a possible month of new ork releases sounds like something GW would do and it's been quite a while since the orks took over White Dwarf so, I would love to see that again. I guess we'll see, eventually...

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
There's no current fluff of Orks falling to Chaos or to the effects of a Cult.There's a brief mention in the last GSC codex that hints at possible Orkoid assimilation, that's all. "Tuska Deamon-KILLA" as his name implies, is not, and has never been, a servant of Khorne (willingly at least). There's no other mentions of Chaos I know of and I have both 7th Ed codex and Ghazghkull supplement right here. Why would Tyranids make hybrid Orks as part of an ongoing conflict when they do not make hybrids of other races as part of an ongoing conflict? They feed off other races. At most they take the most successful aspects of a race and integrate it into their own as the hivemind sees fit. Orks are an almost limitless supply of food. If the hivemind figures out how to produce them, it no longer needs to fight and wage war for sustenance and can grow almost indefinitely.

Codex: Death Guard wrote:The Green Death
The infected Ork warbands invading the Ecclesiarchy world of Sanctia evince a terrible new barbarism. They fall upon the planet’s defenders and consume them bodily, devouring the living and the dead alike, as if compelled by a daemonic hunger. Bloating and swelling, the Orks become obese monstrosities that can move only at a snail’s pace. Puzzled by this strange reprieve, the Adepta Sororitas systematically purge the Orks with flame and bolter. It is then that Mortarion and the Death Guard of the 7th Plague Company make planetfall. The Daemon Primarch looms over the bodies of the Orks as he stalks to the front lines. At his passing, each greenskin bursts apart in a shower of foul fluids, and dozens of Nurglings spill out from their remains to follow their master. Sanctia falls to the Green Death within twenty hours of Mortarion’s arrival, and the plague spreads across the Ecclesiarchy-held system.

Codex: Orks (2008) wrote:With every new dawn upon the blood-world, Tuska and his Orks find themselves whole again. They fight their way across the gory swamps in an eternal cycle of battle and death, puppets oft he Lord of Battles until the end of time.

In regard to chaos orks, this is a simple case of your head-canon not matching the official fluff.

Tuska is obviously not a 'Chaos Ork'. He's a puppet by chance not through worship or want. It couldn't be more clear - Tuska Daemon-KILLA. If anything that story is an example of Khorne infected with Orkiness, not the other way around. So in that case my 'head canon' and the fluff are exactly the same.

Your Nurgle Orks from Death Guard codex aren't worshipping Nurgle either. They're infected. Again its not a choice. Anything can get ill, it doesn't make them a Nurgle fan all of a sudden.

I made a massive post about this responding to an earlier comment but didn't post it because its way off topic. If you want to discuss Chaos or any other hybrid Orks, I would suggest making a new thread.

In fairness many chaos followers follow chaos without even knowin it though.

SemperMortis wrote:

 lolman1c wrote:
So we could be looking at next month for any info. Or at the very least September. Hehe (dark humour joke ahead for those thinking I'm being depressing) what if gw just never talks about the Ork codex again. Like it jever comes out and we ask "when's the codex comming" and they either don't reply, tell us soon, tell us it's already out we just can't see it because they made the codex purple or say "what do you mean? What's an ork?"

Ironically I can see GW's facebook community relations idiots saying exactly that. After all the Bullcrap they piled on us so far I wouldn't doubt it. Now with that said it wouldn't be the rules, true information or anything serious, but yeah I can totally see them doing that.

Codex wise....as every week and month comes and goes I am slowly beginning to convince myself that Orktober is going to be a thing. Whether or not its a band-aid on a gaping chest wound or if its a seriously kitted and fully supported release is up for debate, but at this point I just don't see us getting a release in August and I really think Space Pups will get September with GSC and that we will get Orktober and be the last main faction to get a codex (SOB are not a main faction).

If wolves come late august that would make longer gap than ever between announced codexes.

Reminds me how people were claiming knights comes on july/august with huge gap between announced codexes due to aos2. How did that prediction go?

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
Tuska is obviously not a 'Chaos Ork'. He's a puppet by chance not through worship or want. It couldn't be more clear - Tuska Daemon-KILLA. If anything that story is an example of Khorne infected with Orkiness, not the other way around. So in that case my 'head canon' and the fluff are exactly the same.

Your Nurgle Orks from Death Guard codex aren't worshipping Nurgle either. They're infected. Again its not a choice. Anything can get ill, it doesn't make them a Nurgle fan all of a sudden.

I made a massive post about this responding to an earlier comment but didn't post it because its way off topic. If you want to discuss Chaos or any other hybrid Orks, I would suggest making a new thread.

That's not how chaos works in 40k. You don't get to decide freely whether you join the club. Chaos tempts, tricks and deceives all races into their ranks all the time. You can even fall to chaos even while you are actively fighting it, if the daemons find a way in.
No matter how Tuska became a puppet of Khorne, he is in no way different than Angron. Angron is not whorshipping Khorne in any other way than killing lots and lots of stuff because he really enjoys killing stuff.

Plus you are hand-waving the direct counter-example to your claims in an 8th edition codex a little to quickly. The orks are clearly not just unknowingly carrying a disease, they are devouring their enemies alive and dead, compelled by daemonic hunger. Daemonic hunger comes from being touched by the warp, which makes them nurgle orks.
Then they start bloating and swelling when doing so, which exactly how nurgle's gifts manifest in those he favors. Those orks are clearly doing nurgle's bidding.

Hmmm Orktober. If it ends up to be that then that rumour about the 1 gw dev who aparntly said it was October last GW fest might end up being true.

Ignoring all the repeated off topic posts, who thinks that we might get a preview of some sort at Warhammer Fest in August?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/07/27/27th-july-guests-and-reveals-at-warhammer-fest-europegw-homepage-post-1/

If we get nothing I will be a sad Ork and I think we can at that point assume we're getting nothing.

Warhammer fest is clearly going to have some big previews as GW are setting it up as the big event of the mid-year (after the AOS 2.0 launch).

I'd hope to hear news about most of GW's product lines on some future things to come. Though AT is going to dominate with the new titan game.

With codex likely being within less than month yeah if no ork previews odds will be good no new models. That or it's one of the least prehyped miniature release in 8th ed

Worst case scenario in my mind: August comes and gw has major 40k previews. Beakies Primaris get a huge new range of toys.. i'm talking an entire armies worth of new unita. And their codex is announced (this is a genuine rumour). Orks get nothing and arn't even mentioned. This would kinda be a kick in the fa e to xenos and Ork players.

Best case scenario in mymmind: GW shows off new Ork hqs, biker hqs, new buggies. Previews ork codex and goes "it's comming out in a few week".

 lolman1c wrote:
Worst case scenario in my mind: August comes and gw has major 40k previews. Beakies Primaris get a huge new range of toys.. i'm talking an entire armies worth of new unita. And their codex is announced (this is a genuine rumour). Orks get nothing and arn't even mentioned. This would kinda be a kick in the fa e to xenos and Ork players.

Best case scenario in mymmind: GW shows off new Ork hqs, biker hqs, new buggies. Previews ork codex and goes "it's comming out in a few week".

Another option is simply a new Ork bike kit with the parts to make one of the Bikes an HQ, Much like what they did with pretty much all the custodes minis. I thought that worked quite nicely and would be eager to see that be something of a newish trend.

BrianDavion wrote:

 lolman1c wrote:
Worst case scenario in my mind: August comes and gw has major 40k previews. Beakies Primaris get a huge new range of toys.. i'm talking an entire armies worth of new unita. And their codex is announced (this is a genuine rumour). Orks get nothing and arn't even mentioned. This would kinda be a kick in the fa e to xenos and Ork players.

Best case scenario in mymmind: GW shows off new Ork hqs, biker hqs, new buggies. Previews ork codex and goes "it's comming out in a few week".

Another option is simply a new Ork bike kit with the parts to make one of the Bikes an HQ, Much like what they did with pretty much all the custodes minis. I thought that worked quite nicely and would be eager to see that be something of a newish trend.

This would work great for nob-sized HQs, like Big meks, Painboys and Weird boyz, but it wouldn't work for a Warboss- a Warboss is simply too big.

I think an ideal situation would be a separate Warboss on bike, with a Nob bikers kit with a Big mek and Painboy option. They already did something similar with the Meganobs. The Warboss could be a dual build with Wazdakka or something if they like.

 Haighus wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 lolman1c wrote:
Worst case scenario in my mind: August comes and gw has major 40k previews. Beakies Primaris get a huge new range of toys.. i'm talking an entire armies worth of new unita. And their codex is announced (this is a genuine rumour). Orks get nothing and arn't even mentioned. This would kinda be a kick in the fa e to xenos and Ork players.

Best case scenario in mymmind: GW shows off new Ork hqs, biker hqs, new buggies. Previews ork codex and goes "it's comming out in a few week".

Another option is simply a new Ork bike kit with the parts to make one of the Bikes an HQ, Much like what they did with pretty much all the custodes minis. I thought that worked quite nicely and would be eager to see that be something of a newish trend.

This would work great for nob-sized HQs, like Big meks, Painboys and Weird boyz, but it wouldn't work for a Warboss- a Warboss is simply too big.

I think an ideal situation would be a separate Warboss on bike, with a Nob bikers kit with a Big mek and Painboy option. They already did something similar with the Meganobs. The Warboss could be a dual build with Wazdakka or something if they like.

They seem weirdly reluctant to do multi-build character kits, especially special characters. There's the Sammael and the new knight guy and that's about it as far as I know. Units which can include an optional character build (so not ones which had their unit leader changed to a character like grots and kastelans) are basically Scions and Custodes (although they did do it for every single custodes kit, so there may be some parts of the design team who are keener on the concept than others).

Virtually every ork kit has the potential for being a multi-build though.

Nob bikers could have painboys easily, big meks if they are willing to add some larger parts and even a warboss could be done with only a quarter sprue or so for the rider.
Alternatively, a warboss on bike could make Wazdakka as you said or even something crazy like a wartrakk.
Ghazgkhull could have an equally big warlord as his alternate. There are surely a few out there and if not one could be easily added without contradicting the lore. I'd expect him to be bigger than a standard mega-armour warboss, but with some clever design it might be possible to make them both from one kit. Otherwise you could have Nazdreg or some previously unknown new character as the MAWB alternative build.
A generic warboss could also make various special characters. Mad Dok Grotsnik could be about warboss sized, for example. Plenty of room to introduce new ones too.
Weirdboy could have a smaller character as an alternative build, possibly a nob with waaagh banner?
Vehicles obviously can be pretty varied. I was disappointed in the Gork/Morkanaut and its simple weapon swap; there is potential for much more inventiveness with parts changing function. You could even have a kit which builds multiple little vehicles or one big one, like two buggies or one mekboy speedster.
For infantry, you still have madboys, ardboyz and skarboyz plus the plastic versions of kommandos and tankbustas, most of which could be done as alternate builds to each other. Or you could easily invent a new class of boys...
The only thing I have a hard time picturing an alternative build for is the deffkopta, but even then you could have a special character deffkopta, split the existing unit into multiple ones or invent some crazy new thing.

 Gogsnik wrote:
Bought a few bits and pieces and my local GW today, but no novels and the staffer asked, "no books today?" and I told him I was saving up for the Ork Codex and his reply was, "well, you've got a few months to wait for that."

Orktober being a possible month of new ork releases sounds like something GW would do and it's been quite a while since the orks took over White Dwarf so, I would love to see that again. I guess we'll see, eventually...

What I worry about is that we're waiting all this time just for a lame pun. "Hey fans, it's Orktober! Here's your codex and datacards!"

I stick with idea that gw sticks to pattern it's held for year which means early september. And "local gw" is about as reliable source as you or me

 Larks wrote:

 Gogsnik wrote:
Bought a few bits and pieces and my local GW today, but no novels and the staffer asked, "no books today?" and I told him I was saving up for the Ork Codex and his reply was, "well, you've got a few months to wait for that."

Orktober being a possible month of new ork releases sounds like something GW would do and it's been quite a while since the orks took over White Dwarf so, I would love to see that again. I guess we'll see, eventually...

What I worry about is that we're waiting all this time just for a lame pun. "Hey fans, it's Orktober! Here's your codex and datacards!"

This would be grim and I think the final straw that breaks the camels back as far as 40k's confirmed for me.

Re a new Warboss on Bike model, as much as I'd loooove it, let's not forget that Zhadsnark exists and his model is absolutely beautiful. I can't see it, myself. I think it's much more likely we get a new buggy and trakks.

 Perfect Organism wrote:

 Haighus wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 lolman1c wrote:
Worst case scenario in my mind: August comes and gw has major 40k previews. Beakies Primaris get a huge new range of toys.. i'm talking an entire armies worth of new unita. And their codex is announced (this is a genuine rumour). Orks get nothing and arn't even mentioned. This would kinda be a kick in the fa e to xenos and Ork players.

Best case scenario in mymmind: GW shows off new Ork hqs, biker hqs, new buggies. Previews ork codex and goes "it's comming out in a few week".

Another option is simply a new Ork bike kit with the parts to make one of the Bikes an HQ, Much like what they did with pretty much all the custodes minis. I thought that worked quite nicely and would be eager to see that be something of a newish trend.

This would work great for nob-sized HQs, like Big meks, Painboys and Weird boyz, but it wouldn't work for a Warboss- a Warboss is simply too big.

I think an ideal situation would be a separate Warboss on bike, with a Nob bikers kit with a Big mek and Painboy option. They already did something similar with the Meganobs. The Warboss could be a dual build with Wazdakka or something if they like.

They seem weirdly reluctant to do multi-build character kits, especially special characters. There's the Sammael and the new knight guy and that's about it as far as I know. Units which can include an optional character build (so not ones which had their unit leader changed to a character like grots and kastelans) are basically Scions and Custodes (although they did do it for every single custodes kit, so there may be some parts of the design team who are keener on the concept than others).

Virtually every ork kit has the potential for being a multi-build though.

Nob bikers could have painboys easily, big meks if they are willing to add some larger parts and even a warboss could be done with only a quarter sprue or so for the rider.
Alternatively, a warboss on bike could make Wazdakka as you said or even something crazy like a wartrakk.
Ghazgkhull could have an equally big warlord as his alternate. There are surely a few out there and if not one could be easily added without contradicting the lore. I'd expect him to be bigger than a standard mega-armour warboss, but with some clever design it might be possible to make them both from one kit. Otherwise you could have Nazdreg or some previously unknown new character as the MAWB alternative build.
A generic warboss could also make various special characters. Mad Dok Grotsnik could be about warboss sized, for example. Plenty of room to introduce new ones too.
Weirdboy could have a smaller character as an alternative build, possibly a nob with waaagh banner?
Vehicles obviously can be pretty varied. I was disappointed in the Gork/Morkanaut and its simple weapon swap; there is potential for much more inventiveness with parts changing function. You could even have a kit which builds multiple little vehicles or one big one, like two buggies or one mekboy speedster.
For infantry, you still have madboys, ardboyz and skarboyz plus the plastic versions of kommandos and tankbustas, most of which could be done as alternate builds to each other. Or you could easily invent a new class of boys...
The only thing I have a hard time picturing an alternative build for is the deffkopta, but even then you could have a special character deffkopta, split the existing unit into multiple ones or invent some crazy new thing.

Does the Deffkopta need to be a dual kit? The rules are already basically multi-option. A kit with options for rokkits, big shooters, buzzsaws, and bomms would basically be a dual-build kit, just within one unit entry.

In terms of characters in kits. We have seen plenty of generic characters in units- the Big mek in mega-armour in the Meganobz kit, the Tyranid Warrior Alpha prime in the Warriors kit, the Heralds in the Chaos Daemons chariot kits, to name a few. We have also seen plastic HQs with a named character dual build too- Space Wolf Dreadnought and Bjorn or the Murderfang guy, Skallagrim and the Blood Thirster, Fateweaver and the Lord of Change, the Hive Tyrant and the Swarmlord. Therefore I think it is entirely reasonable to anticipate dual-build HQs, although I would not be holding my breath.