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Also continuing with useless and nonsensical rules just to match the model count in the box. 4 cultists or 7 traitor guard, yaaay!

 Mr Morden wrote:
I assumed she is turning to face an enemy who has come upon her when she was using her rifle.

Looks good to me.

It also looks like she's about to leap away, judging by her raised left foot. To me it seems like the sculpture was trying to go for a "sudden transition into close combat" stance.

I am loving all the models, I even like the eldar, its posed as if she is standing on a moving floor, maybe something to do with the game ?

robbienw wrote:
GW has been using CAD software to design its models for over 10 years now.

Most of the Eldar range is older than that.

Some of those names are pure cringe.

They called the Black Legion guy with a Hammer Black Hammer. For real.

Obsidius = Obsidian = Black
Mallex = Malleus = Hammer

That is a bit silly

5pt guardsmen ... IT'S REAL REPEAT IT'S BLOODY REAL ... PREPARE FOR TROOP HIKES! ... no more 7pt fire warriors T_T

 Rolsheen wrote:
Why are people complaining about the Ranger trigger and/or leg length?

Count the fingers, clearly see the trigger finger above the other three.
The legs are the same length, one leg straight / flat foot, other bent slightly / raised foot

It's not Dakka unless people defend their complaint to the death.

 aracersss wrote:
5pt guardsmen ... IT'S REAL REPEAT IT'S BLOODY REAL ... PREPARE FOR TROOP HIKES! ... no more 7pt fire warriors T_T

Why firewarriors? It could just mean that guardsmen are getting a points increase, provided this crosses over to 40k.


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 lord_blackfang wrote:
Also continuing with useless and nonsensical rules just to match the model count in the box. 4 cultists or 7 traitor guard, yaaay!

Aren't negavolt cultists something special though? Don't they have cybernetics and better weapons compared to guardsmen and generic cultists?
Wait, how do you divide 45 by 4? That doesn't make sense.

For reference, this is a negavolt cultist

Where is my full Lost and the Damned release.

Looking forward to allying in a squad of 2 Black Legion into my Word Bearers army, haha!

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Aren't negavolt cultists something special though? Don't they have cybernetics and better weapons compared to guardsmen and generic cultists? Wait, how do you divide 45 by 4? That doesn't make sense.

Maybe one of them's a leader or something - a Negavolt Wattmeister or some other silly quadruple-barrelled name, and costs slightly more for +1A.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Aren't negavolt cultists something special though? Don't they have cybernetics and better weapons compared to guardsmen and generic cultists? Wait, how do you divide 45 by 4? That doesn't make sense.

Maybe one of them's a leader or something - a Negavolt Wattmeister or some other silly quadruple-barrelled name, and costs slightly more for +1A.

Aren't squad leaders the same price as grunts now though? That's what it said in the Designer's Commentary.

They literally just called them chaos beastmen? That's kinda funny.

Traitor guardsmen are 5 ppm including weapons which is an interesting one.

The eldar ranger still looks poor in the spoilered pic. I just think it's a very poor pose at this point.

 DanceOfSlaanesh wrote:
The ranger pose is probably the most common pose for a GW miniature, legs wide and arms to the side. Very common for single piece metal miniatures.
Makes it easy to cast it.

If both feet were flat on the floor I would agree with you. It would very much be a "come at me bro" style heroic stance which would make sense with the weapon arm pose. But the poor woman's right leg is cocked up on tippy toe in some way that is hard to understand based on the available pictures. There is no "hate", just fans who are having difficulty understanding the aesthetic choices of the artist. Mostly because it looks awkward and a bit weird.

 Taarnak wrote:
The groupthink hate for the Ranger is a bit surprising and getting ridiculous.

Groupthink means “many people having the same opinion”? I'm a bit lost there.


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 Mr Morden wrote:
I assumed she is turning to face an enemy who has come upon her when she was using her rifle.

I'm looking at the model and, well, the fact that her head is facing the exact same direction her torso is, for instance, really prevent me from seeing this as her turning. Also she already has her weapon in hand! If she looked like she was turning, and was unsheathing her weapon, could have looked awesome.

 Flinty wrote:

 DanceOfSlaanesh wrote:
The ranger pose is probably the most common pose for a GW miniature, legs wide and arms to the side. Very common for single piece metal miniatures.
Makes it easy to cast it.

If both feet were flat on the floor I would agree with you. It would very much be a "come at me bro" style heroic stance which would make sense with the weapon arm pose. But the poor woman's right leg is cocked up on tippy toe in some way that is hard to understand based on the available pictures. There is no "hate", just fans who are having difficulty understanding the aesthetic choices of the artist. Mostly because it looks awkward and a bit weird.

I think the foot is meant to convey the ranger about to do a side step or a leap to the side, but its not clear.
It would have been better if it was a more standing position, yes.

 Tyranid Horde wrote:
They literally just called them chaos beastmen?

That implies that there are non-Chaos Beastmen!!! Loyalist Beastmen in a new Guard Codex confirmed!!

(/reading too much into it)

 Daedalus81 wrote:

 Rolsheen wrote:
Why are people complaining about the Ranger trigger and/or leg length?

Count the fingers, clearly see the trigger finger above the other three.
The legs are the same length, one leg straight / flat foot, other bent slightly / raised foot

It's not Dakka unless people defend their complaint to the death.

"trigger discipline" is completely stupid anyway, unless you're commenting on a real person with a real gun. Hollywood, games, TV, none of them do trigger discipline properly, I have no idea why someone would expect GW's magic space elves to lead the charge on that

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Tyranid Horde wrote:
They literally just called them chaos beastmen?

That implies that there are non-Chaos Beastmen!!! Loyalist Beastmen in a new Guard Codex confirmed!!

(/reading too much into it)

I am not going to lie, I would get quite excited if they bought these back !

Shame they don't seem to be going into Kill Team, but hopefully the actual game is fun enough to play.

 ElvisJuice wrote:

 Daedalus81 wrote:

 Rolsheen wrote:
Why are people complaining about the Ranger trigger and/or leg length?

Count the fingers, clearly see the trigger finger above the other three.
The legs are the same length, one leg straight / flat foot, other bent slightly / raised foot

It's not Dakka unless people defend their complaint to the death.

"trigger discipline" is completely stupid anyway, unless you're commenting on a real person with a real gun. Hollywood, games, TV, none of them do trigger discipline properly, I have no idea why someone would expect GW's magic space elves to lead the charge on that

They managed it for the voidsmen in Rogue Trader. So, not expectation of leading the charge, just an approximation of consistency.

 Mr_Rose wrote:

 ElvisJuice wrote:

 Daedalus81 wrote:

 Rolsheen wrote:
Why are people complaining about the Ranger trigger and/or leg length?

Count the fingers, clearly see the trigger finger above the other three.
The legs are the same length, one leg straight / flat foot, other bent slightly / raised foot

It's not Dakka unless people defend their complaint to the death.

"trigger discipline" is completely stupid anyway, unless you're commenting on a real person with a real gun. Hollywood, games, TV, none of them do trigger discipline properly, I have no idea why someone would expect GW's magic space elves to lead the charge on that

They managed it for the voidsmen in Rogue Trader. So, not expectation of leading the charge, just an approximation of consistency.

They did it for one model in one kit. I’d say that was the inconsistency

I actually like the female Eldar. I may have to grab one as a single figure for my ancient Eldar army.

 aracersss wrote:
5pt guardsmen ... IT'S REAL REPEAT IT'S BLOODY REAL ... PREPARE FOR TROOP HIKES! ... no more 7pt fire warriors T_T

Neophyte Hybrids have the same kit as Guardsmen but were 5pts.

Nothing's confirmed until it is. And if it is actually the case, Guard just got nerfed againbecause of soup.

Chaps, this is not the topic for discussing any potential point changes, please keep the discussion on target.

Charax wrote:
They called the Black Legion guy with a Hammer Black Hammer. For real.

Obsidius = Obsidian = Black
Mallex = Malleus = Hammer

That is a bit silly

Didn’t you notice the Warhammer 40,000 logo? Of course it is.

Ferrus Manus, Corvus Corax, Argron the Angry guy... Khârn the Betrayer...Valkya the Valkyria...

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Also continuing with useless and nonsensical rules just to match the model count in the box. 4 cultists or 7 traitor guard, yaaay!

So you’d prefer units of 10 for both. That you can’t Field from a single box?

Oh no. You’d just complain about that very thing instead.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Also continuing with useless and nonsensical rules just to match the model count in the box. 4 cultists or 7 traitor guard, yaaay!

So you’d prefer units of 10 for both. That you can’t Field from a single box?

Oh no. You’d just complain about that very thing instead.

I'd prefer if they would not have fixed unit sizes.